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Ok - appears you have good weather for pictures?
I do hope not crawling around.
I'd hate to see a post about "I'm trapped and I can't get up!"

I'm curious what the angle looks like on a typical residential speed corner, as a compare?
That way don't even have to get on the ground!
I can't recall ever noting how much I turn the wheel for that type of corner - watching traffic too distracting I guess.

Obviously turns aren't normally the brunt of a driver's axle turning time, but for some sure could be a higher %.
I figured while I was down on the ground, I might as well take pictures.šŸ˜‰
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It looks as if I lowered my Maverick it might actually straighten the angle out. If I were to lift or raise the truck that would increase the angle even more than it is.
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Last year when I bought my 2025 and I asked questions about lifting it, I got all these horror stories about the CV joints failing.
What is new on the 2025?
Is this still true or did the new CV joints solved the issue?
Thank you
CV joints have been redesigned for 2025.
 

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CV joints have been redesigned for 2025.
New versions seemed to be getting installed in Jan on some warranty replacements then.
I'm sure the number hitting high mileage by now is slim to none, but would be interesting to hear from those who perhaps were lifted and decent mileage - if anything amiss.
 

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The issue with the CV joints is that people have been lift kits on their Mavericks and putting them outside of design specifications. 2025 MY allows for increased angles of operation.
 

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I figured while I was down on the ground, I might as well take pictures.šŸ˜‰
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It looks as if I lowered my Maverick it might actually straighten the angle out. If I were to lift or raise the truck that would increase the angle even more than it is.
Nice pic.

So able to see on that what you really need to be careful doing is removing the pinch bolt, bottommost bolt there faced towards us, on the top of the balljoint to steering knuckle. Releasing balljoint from there may allow knuckle to move outward and pull on the axle due to spring. Now if it comes out far, either the axle is real tightly seated into the diff in the housing and you pull the CV apart, or it isn't super tight and pops out before the CV separates and now you're swimming in transmission fluid. So yeah, working on that, take extra precautions, chain bottom of strut back to something so it can't wander outwards.
 

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Bert,
Here's a picture of the front axle of
my factory stock 23 Maverick hybrid XLT.
As you can tell it is already at a slight up angle. As a Layman, I would expect any lift to the body of the truck would increase this angle. That all said, I don't know if CV joints work their best when they're at an angle VS being straight or how much extra wear happens when the angle is increased.

You may want to take a look at how much of an angle your axles are already at on level ground. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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Is it my eyes playing tricks on me or is your boot starting to leak at the housing at the top of the clamp? With all of the threads and horror stories I have read about the tell tale signs of the beginnings of CV joints failing, leaking from the boots is one of them. Not to alarm you, could just be regular road dirt/gunk that has accumulated over time, but it is a different complexion from the rest of the shaft. Anymore with me, when inspecting my shafts I am getting like the kid in the 6th Sense movie. ā€œI see shaft failures.ā€ Please tell me to relax.
 

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I don't know for sure if the Lobo has the Tremor CVs or not - I am guess no but they might.

The Lobo and Tremor both have very mild changes though and I would say that using the same parts they would have additional stress but to your point is probably within the parts specified tolerances and you shouldn't see increased failure rates.
I agree, were talking a half inch and inch, not 2/3 inches. My 25 black pack Lariat is 1.5" taller than my 22 FX4 was because of the 19" tires not suspension. Hey if you want to lift do it just don't complain parts fail, whenever you modify a vehicle you have to expect some problems.
 

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Is it my eyes playing tricks on me or is your boot starting to leak at the housing at the top of the clamp? With all of the threads and horror stories I have read about the tell tale signs of the beginnings of CV joints failing, leaking from the boots is one of them. Not to alarm you, could just be regular road dirt/gunk that has accumulated over time, but it is a different complexion from the rest of the shaft. Anymore with me, when inspecting my shafts I am getting like the kid in the 6th Sense movie. ā€œI see shaft failures.ā€ Please tell me to relax.
Dry as bone left in the Nevada šŸœ desert or in your case Arizona desert.
 
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What about lowering?
Lowering what I consider a very low to the ground truck already makes no sense, functionally that is.
For custom looks I get that.
Lowered looks cool but I’d not do that if I was ever going to use the Mav as a truck.

So much work just for looks, it would kill resale values I’d think.
I’d never buy a lowered vehicle of any kind.
I don’t take my Lariat into the woods off-road.
But many times on my gravel fire roads and many times going in and out of driveways and dips I’ve needed my ground clearance.

But lowered does look cool.
 
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I agree, were talking a half inch and inch, not 2/3 inches. My 25 black pack Lariat is 1.5" taller than my 22 FX4 was because of the 19" tires not suspension. Hey if you want to lift do it just don't complain parts fail, whenever you modify a vehicle you have to expect some problems.
I promise your 25 Lariat does not sit 1.5ā€ higher than your 22 FX4 nor does it have 1.5ā€ of additional ground clearance. 🄓
 

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Last year when I bought my 2025 and I asked questions about lifting it, I got all these horror stories about the CV joints failing.
What is new on the 2025?
Is this still true or did the new CV joints solved the issue?
Thank you
According to the experts at Maverick Truck Club, if you have a lifted Maverick, like a tremor, it will cause premature cv failure. Or, if you have a lowered Maverick, like the Lobo, that will cause premature cv failure too. Or, if your install your own aftermarket lift kit or lowering kit on your Maverick, that will cause premature CV failure too. Or if you have a stock hybrid, that will cause premature cv failure too, because the transmission output is higher, leading to steeper CV angles than on the ecoboost.

Those same experts will also tell you that there is nothing wrong with the Maverick CV design and any CV failure is because of your modifications to your vehicle. And if you didn’t have any modifications on your vehicle when your CV’s failed, then it was because of how you drove your Maverick, using too much throttle, or towing too much. Or living in a hilly area. Whatever your CV failure circumstances are, it’s your fault, not because of a design flaw in Ford’s CV joint.

Which leads to the next point: why did Ford redesign the maverick’s CV joints when nothing was wrong with the original design? Inquiring minds want to know.

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And so far, no one is (yet) reporting failures of the new CV joints. Does that mean the problem is gone and you can lift or lower your Maverick without fear of failure? It is simply too early to tell. Personally, I’m not going to live my life in fear. Mine is lifted. And I love it. When the cv’s fail, I’ll get them fixed, under warranty or not.
 

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Bert,
Here's a picture of the front axle of
my factory stock 23 Maverick hybrid XLT.
As you can tell it is already at a slight up angle. As a Layman, I would expect any lift to the body of the truck would increase this angle. That all said, I don't know if CV joints work their best when they're at an angle VS being straight or how much extra wear happens when the angle is increased.

You may want to take a look at how much of an angle your axles are already at on level ground. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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Rule of thumb for cv’s is that 30 degrees is the max that you should run them. 18 to 25 is considered safe for long term street operation. The bronco raptor has 18 degrees cv angle. The F-150 raptor has 22 degree cv angle. My maverick ecoboost fx4 with 2ā€ lift kit has 11 degrees on left and 15 degrees on the right. Previous MTC posts have said that the right side cv angle on stock hybrids is 15 degrees. I don’t have a hybrid to confirm this.
 
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According to the experts at Maverick Truck Club, if you have a lifted Maverick, like a tremor, it will cause premature cv failure. Or, if you have a lowered Maverick, like the Lobo, that will cause premature cv failure too. Or, if your install your own aftermarket lift kit or lowering kit on your Maverick, that will cause premature CV failure too. Or if you have a stock hybrid, that will cause premature cv failure too, because the transmission output is higher, leading to steeper CV angles than on the ecoboost.

Those same experts will also tell you that there is nothing wrong with the Maverick CV design and any CV failure is because of your modifications to your vehicle. And if you didn’t have any modifications on your vehicle when your CV’s failed, then it was because of how you drove your Maverick, using too much throttle, or towing too much. Or living in a hilly area. Whatever your CV failure circumstances are, it’s your fault, not because of a design flaw in Ford’s CV joint.

Which leads to the next point: why did Ford redesign the maverick’s CV joints when nothing was wrong with the original design? Inquiring minds want to know.

/s

And so far, no one is (yet) reporting failures of the new CV joints. Does that mean the problem is gone and you can lift or lower your Maverick without fear of failure? It is simply too early to tell. Personally, I’m not going to live my life in fear. Mine is lifted. And I love it. When the cv’s fail, I’ll get them fixed, under warranty or not.
You must be a hoot to be around at the holidays!!!
 

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Back in the "bad old days" when rubber parts lasted 3-5 years, I started hosing my CV boots with silicone spray lube a couple of times a year, which as it was late 90s into noughts, wasn't sure if it kept them going or rubber was improving. So there were some older vehicles that never needed new boots while I kept that up, and by '08ish I had stopped bothering. Buuuuut if you are worried about CV boot cracking, due to rubber going back to being more organic or something, you can try that.
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