Dealer wants to totally replace the transmission

[710-oil-614]

LOL. Might be. Thing is, the Taco has grown larger over the years (as have nearly all pickups). The Maverick takes us back to a true "compact" form factor, which is what I would like. It looks good great. And Ford has delivered a lot of truly elegant engineering touches, that mesh with a visual aesthetic that I find very appealing. I've become quite smitten by it.

That's even before you consider the value proposition. IMO it hits way above its weight.

But none of that matters if it's not reliable. The recalls might be excused in a first-year model. But we're a couple years in, now. Ford should have enough data to have addressed such things as basic powertrain durability.

We shall see. I'm not entirely off the fence yet. But the IRA distribution that I executed a couple days ago, in case I decided to pull the trigger this week, is sitting there in the checking account, on hold.

If you're going to be swayed by 1 thread on MTC about the reliability of the 8F35 then you are never going to be happy with any vehicle you purchase.

I owned a 2010 Tacoma - guess what? The frame legit rotted out and Toyota offered me $15k over trade in value to purchase a new tacoma. I declined. They had to take my entire truck apart and re-assemble it on a new frame. That was only after a class action lawsuit. Toyota did NOT step up and do the right thing until forced to legally.

It must be exhausting to be so easily swayed by information that you give up on something you desire because one (unverified) report of an issue surfaces.

Keep driving your Yota with 190k miles on the trans fluid. These trucks are pieces of shit and you should avoid them at all costs.....

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[710-oil-614]

**Update**........

Nice work, TJ!

 

[shark978]

Consider yourself lucky. Most vehicles still need tranny fluid change every 30,000 miles to avoid tranny issues. Just ask any competent mechanic.

is this a serious post...

i have 162k trouble free miles on my 08 canyon and never touched trans fluid. i think the manual recommends once at 100k miles then never again. but since i missed that milestone i said heck with it. some people even claim changing the trans fluid after 100k can damage it i believe, though i'm skeptical of that.

course it is a 4 speed as the epa regulations are 50x worse now so everything has to be 8-10 speeds to get .1 more mpg and save the baby deers or whatever.

 

[shark978]

The Nissan I had that the Maverick replaced clamed lifetime transmission fluid, but the Nissan auto transmissions were well known for failing if you did not change the fluid every 40k. So don't believe it.

The life time or 150k numbers is for non severe duty schedule. Severe duty wants it changed every 40k miles.
You are Severe duty if you drive when it is Hot or Cold, at high altitude, if you ever tow, drive up steep grades, drive off road, let the vehicle sit and idle, or drive short trips. So nearly everyone is severe duty. For me it gets over 90 deg. F in the summer where I live, so that counts as severe duty.

I plan on changing my transmission fluid early and I expect the trans to last well over 150k miles.

i live in texas, it was 110 for a month straight last year, and got down to 0 a couple yrs ago. 162k trouble free miles on my 08 canyon without changing my trans fluid. never will for sure now.

these threads make me question getting a mav tho :/

 

[colinl]

i live in texas, it was 110 for a month straight last year, and got down to 0 a couple yrs ago. 162k trouble free miles on my 08 canyon without changing my trans fluid. never will for sure now.

these threads make me question getting a mav tho :/

this thread, honestly, is a fluke from what I have seen. there are a number of people running fairly heavily modified AWD Mavericks and none of them have reported issues with their 8F35 transmissions.

several tuning shops offer launch control. it is pretty low boost, but still, people are using it and not blowing up transmissions.

anything made by humans can have defective parts and especially defective assembly. the OP's transmission is not typical. it sucks for him, and everyone reading it is better informed, but no it's hardly a trend let alone design flaw for one person to report an issue.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Sounds like you want two new Tacomas. Good luck!

The Tacoma is less reliable than the maverick or ranger. I'll be honest, considering everyone I've known who's owned a tacoma has had issues, I'm stunned their have the reputation for durability that they do. But I suppose that's the thing with reputation's, and history.
Where you get down to it, it often doesn't mean anything for the modern version of the product.

 

[710-oil-614]

The Tacoma is less reliable than the maverick or ranger. I'll be honest, considering everyone I've known who's owned a tacoma has had issues, I'm stunned their have the reputation for durability that they do. But I suppose that's the thing with reputation's, and history.
Where you get down to it, it often doesn't mean anything for the modern version of the product.

Re:Taco I agree with you wholeheartedly but people who bang the Yota drum (like Scotty Kilmer) cannot be convinced otherwise.

There are only a few safety concerns (IMO) larger than your vehicle legit snapping in half from the frame disintegrating....

This is not my (former) Tacoma in the video below (although it was almost the identical truck) - this is the process that my 2010 Tacoma went through just 6 years into ownership.

"But it's really reliable once they took care of that one minor issue" you know, replacing the frame!

The death knell for it was a blown transfer case at 160k that they wanted $3,700 to fix.

 

[1929]

Re:Taco I agree with you wholeheartedly but people who bang the Yota drum (like Scotty Kilmer) cannot be convinced otherwise.

There are only a few safety concerns (IMO) larger than your vehicle legit snapping in half from the frame disintegrating....

This is not my (former) Tacoma in the video below (although it was almost the identical truck) - this is the process that my 2010 Tacoma went through just 6 years into ownership.

"But it's really reliable once they took care of that one minor issue" you know, replacing the frame!

The death knell for it was a blown transfer case at 160k that they wanted $3,700 to fix.

No worries with frame on Maverick.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

What the actual F are you crowing about? This is a single owner's misfortune. I guess you've overlooked the posts on this forum where Hybrid owners have also faced eCVT replacements.

So let me get this straight. Whenever there's an isolated issues with someone's hybrid, it's ok for an Ecoboost owner to come in and be like "Hybrids are terrible" and just be a general dick like so many ill mannered people on this site tend to be.

But for me, someone who anyone knows will generally try to be polite, to say, oh, I'm sorry you're having to go through this. I'm glad I have a different transmission, I could pull the uno reverse and bash every Ecoboost ever made, like a lot of Ecoboost owners do everytime there's a hybrid post. Instead I'll show some empathy and say sorry you're going through this, that's going too far, got it.

 

[colinl]

So let me get this straight. Whenever there's an isolated issues with someone's hybrid, it's ok for an Ecoboost owner to come in and be like "Hybrids are terrible" and just be a general dick like so many ill mannered people on this site tend to be.

But for me, someone who anyone knows will generally try to be polite, to say, oh, I'm sorry you're having to go through this. I'm glad I have a different transmission, I could pull the uno reverse and bash every Ecoboost ever made, like a lot of Ecoboost owners do everytime there's a hybrid post. Instead I'll show some empathy and say sorry you're going through this, that's going too far, got it.

you're arguing that two wrongs, one of them hypothetical, make a right.

you don't see the logical fallacy in your assumptions and you clearly don't regret it. got it.

 

[710-oil-614]

But for me, someone who anyone knows will generally try to be polite, to say, oh, I'm sorry you're having to go through this. I'm glad I have a different transmission, I could pull the uno reverse and bash every Ecoboost ever made, like a lot of Ecoboost owners do everytime there's a hybrid post. Instead I'll show some empathy and say sorry you're going through this, that's going too far, got it.

But....that's not what you did.

You did the backhand passive aggressive I'm going to announce myself as a superior hybrid owner and could claim a victory for saying my drivetrain will be more reliable than the EB....I could say it....but i won't....so, sorry you're dealing with this.

So basically, you said it but said you weren't going to say it.

 

[CurtisB]

So let me get this straight. Whenever there's an isolated issues with someone's hybrid, it's ok for an Ecoboost owner to come in and be like "Hybrids are terrible" and just be a general dick like so many ill mannered people on this site tend to be.

But for me, someone who anyone knows will generally try to be polite, to say, oh, I'm sorry you're having to go through this. I'm glad I have a different transmission, I could pull the uno reverse and bash every Ecoboost ever made, like a lot of Ecoboost owners do everytime there's a hybrid post. Instead I'll show some empathy and say sorry you're going through this, that's going too far, got it.

OneAlienBoi
It seems to be the norm on most social media sites for people to react dismisively whenever they can. Intelligent and respectful dialog is hard to find anymore. I have learned to let it go. Most don't even know why what they are typing can come across as arrogant. And, I have found that the basics of how one is to communicate when writing is completely gone.

It is a lost art. And I will probably be attacked for posting this. But, like I said, I have learned to ignore them. As an example, when I first posted in another Maverick forum, I was immediately attacked for having paid "a ridiculous price" for my Maverick. Nevermind mine is a 2023, nearly fully loaded and those who got a better price were 2021-2022 stripped down versions with "steelies". Really? We all know the price of the Maverick has consistently gone up to some extent. But the attack was on.

I think covid gave too many people post trama. Most people are still pissed off about everything and it comes out in social media sites. We all love our Mavericks. We all paid different prices with different options. I've seen modifications done that I will not do, but I still like reading about them and getting educated on the process.

I just read things in my leisure. Not reading to find something to dismiss or demean anyone.

 

[Jman79]

@thotpatrol Keep us posted on what the outcome is.

I hope you can find someone willing to do a few drain/fills or manage to do it yourself. Might save yourself some $$$ and would be very good test for others who come behind you with the same trouble.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

you're arguing that two wrongs, one of them hypothetical, make a right.

you don't see the logical fallacy in your assumptions and you clearly don't regret it. got it.

But....that's not what you did.

You did the backhand passive aggressive I'm going to announce myself as a superior hybrid owner and could claim a victory for saying my drivetrain will be more reliable than the EB....I could say it....but i won't....so, sorry you're dealing with this.

So basically, you said it but said you weren't going to say it.

It's clear I've caused so division here, so I'm just gonna say, we're all fucked and everything is terrible. Every maverick, every vehicle on earth, is destined to break down every mile and every day of ownership. Hopefully that makes everyone happy, I'll dunk on myself, and everyone else equally to try and mend bridges. I'll see you guys at the shop soon to get a new wiring harness or something any day now.

 

[710-oil-614]

It's clear I've caused so division here, so I'm just gonna say, we're all fucked and everything is terrible. Every maverick, every vehicle on earth, is destined to break down every mile and every day of ownership. Hopefully that makes everyone happy, I'll dunk on myself, and everyone else equally to try and mend bridges. I'll see you guys at the shop soon to get a new wiring harness or something any day now.

Glad I have the e-cvt, I'll just say that.

A bulletproof design vs. a Chevy 8 speed transmission with engineering flaws.

I feel bad for the people impacted by this, but I did predict we'd see this shift.

Most of the hybrid issues werr mild things with the 12V battery or wiring harness, small, easy and cheap to address things.

I predicted Ford would resolve a lot of those issues, which they did on second half of '22 and later build mavericks for the most part, and we'd see the paradigm switch, with the hybrid issues quieting down, and Ecoboost issues picking up with the turbos and 8 speed. We're basically seeing exactly that.

Despite all the shit Ecoboost owners have given us, I could use this opportunity to say I told you so.

Instead, I'm just gonna say, sorry you're having to go through this.

Man - put that shovel down!!!

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