Would you buy an EV maverick for 25-30k?

[RobbieAG]

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[Hunters Edge]

Batteries usually last 15 years, or 200-300K miles. Gas engines don't always last that long.

Neither do electric motors. I don't know but was told a AWD or 4x4 would need a electric motor at each wheel. If that is correct it can be very costly, as well as insurance premiums.

 

[dalola]

The climate is warming. Polar ice is melting, glaciers are receding, the chemistry of the ocean is becoming dangerously acidic, sea levels are rising. All of this and more are consequences of the greenhouse gases we continue to emit into the atmosphere, where they trap and radiate heat that would otherwise escape into space. Those are facts, not conjectures. Why is it that any attempt to solve this looming catastrophe has to devolve into misinformation and conspiracy theories? EVs are NOT shit cars and the government is NOT offering fake incentives to manipulate anything. (And please spare us the global warming hoax b.s.)

Because there are many educated (scientifically) predictions that the warming climate is NOT a "looming catastrophe", but unfortunately, that doesn't fit with the current global elitist narrative, so they are not widely shared by mainstream media. Solving the "climate crisis" is actually pretty low on the current global existential threat list, if you really care to do some nonprejudicial research.

I'm all for free market EV adoption, but where we're heading is something else entirely.

 

[ndmiller]

Absolutely in a heartbeat I would replace my ICE Maverick I just picked up in December with an EV Maverick.

We've had an EV in the family for 4 years, so see the value, ease and first hand how it upends how one thinks about a vehicle. Lexus plug in TX announcement may bring us to a 3 EV family (assuming an EV Maverick existed).

FWIW don't care about the environment, that's not driving any decision in our household. EV vehicles (the correct one for your needs) are a sea change adding hours and days simply avoiding ICE maintenance routines. 4 years 4-8 oil changes alone is worth the change as I maintain all the vehicles. 3 vehicles 1-2 oil changes a year adds up and with an EV it goes away completely. Notice I didn't mention cost, that's irrelevant at this stage of my life, time is worth WAY more than money. Not how everyone operates, but you'll get there as you age, pretty much happens to everyone.

Before we got the first EV I thought it was stupid, nonsense, never going to happen, never going mainstream, kill the US grid and all that afraid of change BS. I'm the biggest proponent, but for me and my family, could care less to change others minds, when you finally try it you'll will see for yourself if you missed out or were right all along.

 

[Bob The Builder]

The climate is warming. Polar ice is melting, glaciers are receding, the chemistry of the ocean is becoming dangerously acidic, sea levels are rising. All of this and more are consequences of the greenhouse gases we continue to emit into the atmosphere, where they trap and radiate heat that would otherwise escape into space. Those are facts, not conjectures. Why is it that any attempt to solve this looming catastrophe has to devolve into misinformation and conspiracy theories? EVs are NOT shit cars and the government is NOT offering fake incentives to manipulate anything. (And please spare us the global warming hoax b.s.)

Thinking out loud here. Has anyone ever bothered to check old pictures of the Atlantic City Boardwalk and compare the sea level? Say 1924 to 2024. Should be easy to figure checking shadows to help determine the time of day and compare with tide charts. Some smart person has to have done this, I would think. I would be very curious to hear the results.

As a side note, I do not believe for a minute that any sane person would give doubt to the fact our climate is changing. I can see the difference over the past 50 years of our old family Sugar Bush and how things have changed going back and checking records and sugaring dates to the 1950's. Some of us question how much of this is man made and how much of this is natural changes in the cyclic Earth's weather patterns, sun spots and the like. There is much about this planet we have yet to fully understand.

 

[Gvmumbral]

Hell fudge no.

 

[atomguy245]

I don't think we will ever see a $25k EV going forward. It's hard to buy a regular gas vehicle for $25k now, let alone in the future.

 

[NJBob]

Fix the charging infrastructure and I may consider it.

 

[Rlb080]

Definitely. I'd place an order of first day it was offered. I've owned an EV for a year and I love it. I would keep my Maverick hybrid for longer road trips though.

 

[Hunters Edge]

Just read this article and thought it was worth sharing, especially on this thread.

https://jalopnik.com/bmw-i3-drivers-hit-with-30-000-repair-bills-after-batt-1851259611

 

[OneAlienBoi]

I know I would, probably to go alongside our hybrid. This is Ford's affordable electric vehicle platform, internally called CE1, created by a very talented team of ex apple and Tesla engineers. It's apparently going to be used for an electric maverick and bronco sport, likely other vehicles as well.

I know 25-30k seems too good to be true, but Ford seems very committed to delivering at this price point.

Edit: I should also state that this 25-30k price was actually put out by a high level ford employee in an official interview, it's not just some price I pulled out of my ass. Sorry, should have mentioned that, have been sick as hell these last few days with a terrible flu, bedridden, and not thinking very clearly, so I accidentally forgot to provide the context there. I realized looking at that today with a clearer head that it looks like I'm just making that figure up.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Just read this article and thought it was worth sharing, especially on this thread.

https://jalopnik.com/bmw-i3-drivers-hit-with-30-000-repair-bills-after-batt-1851259611

Diesel trucks regularly have repair bills north of 20 grand. There was a report of a gas powered Kia sedan from a few years ago having a repair bill for close to 40. Expensive repair bills aren't fun, but they exist on every type of car if you look hard enough.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Added some additional context in my original post, that price is something Ford's employees have said they're aiming for, it wasn't just a random number I came up with. Thought I should add that little bit of information.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Correct, infotainment systems by broad definition have been around since the 1930s.
https://www.exhibit.tech/auto-tech/evolution-of-in-car-infotainment-systems/
I should more specifically said touchscreen systems. These are only designed to last 5-6 years.
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-computer-touchscreen-recall-nhtsa-designed-for-6-years-2021-2

If a touchscreen goes out, it's not fun, but it's generally a pretty mild repair, hardly a cause for concern. Look at it this way, the cars made in the 80s were dog shit comparing their reliability to modern cars. Yet even some of those 80s cars that had highly advanced, for the time, digital gauges, and those still work on some 80s cars despite most cars back then having terrible quality.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Batteries usually last 15 years, or 200-300K miles. Gas engines don't always last that long.

Very true, Ford and Toyota hybrids are basically the most reliable cars on the market, the maverick seems to have continued that trend. Looking at EVs, Tesla has terrible, absolutely abysmal quality, yet you still regularly see Tesla electric motors and battery packs lasting well over a decade, and hundreds of thousands of miles. Just image how reliable EVs will become as brands like Ford who actually knows how to screw cars together properly start to invest more resources into them.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I don't see why everyone attacks EVs under the guise of them having some weaknesses. I mean hell, EVs have been in constant development for about 10 years. Think of what gas engines like after 10 years of engineering work and development. They made maybe 20 hp, lasted a few thousand miles if you were lucky, and couldn't go very far without overheating. In the 1920s, 30 years into the development of gas engines, rolls Royce advertised how their engines lasted 20k miles, that was unheard of at the time.

Look at where we are with EVs, 15-20 years of work, and they regularly surpass 1,000 hp, last over a decade, can go 400-600 miles, and can be charged to close to a full charge in under 20 minutes with fast charging. I understand they aren't optimal for towing heavy loads, or driving in sub freezing temperatures, but my God guys, in 20 years, they've made almost as much progress as we've made with ICE vehicles in 130 years. Just imagine where we'll be in another 10. Let's cut them some slack, I'm not saying they're flawless, but nothing in life is.

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