What ESP Warranty plan did you all go with?

[oilman300]

Which did you go with - powertrain / base / extra / or premium? and I do not see bulb protection on flood fords website, unless im missing something?

Once you choose a plan, the bulb coverage is on the next screen.

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[rth121]

Exactly what I was thinking, I have a 2009 ford focus and maintained it well, but had some costly repairs over its life time. I would not have worried if it was a honda, but ive been through the good old ford repairs, especially coming from a family of all fords, lol

Have not decided which plan to go with, but most likely a 7yr/100k mile plan for around $1K

 

[huunvubu]

Honda - I would trust without extended warranty... Ford on the other hand, I would strongly consider extended warranty.

I hit 20K miles in August 2023 and the 2022 Maverick XL hybrid stopped working due to the no-start (wiring cable, CSP related) and 3 weeks later after the first dealership visit, it's back in the shop for another issue (heat exchanger) and it's been in the shop for over a week now, still unresolved after part replacement according to the dealer.

First year new vehicles have teething issues.

Recalls, TSB's or warranty repairs are to be expected.

Your heat exchanger problem is a warranty repair that is fully covered.

The (wiring cable, CSP related) is not an issue for newly produced Mavericks and most never had the issue including me on my 2022 Maverick.

My 2023 Maverick that is being produced right now and has no Recall or TSB issues. Ford also has probably figured out what problem was with the "heat exchanger" that caused it to fail prematurely.

The 2023 Maverick is a year two product and I firmly believe that the initial hiccups have been ironed out.

Panicking and trying to project first year hiccups as problems going on forever to justify buying an ESP plan is not a good idea.

 

[rth121]

First year new vehicles have teething issues.

Recalls, TSB's or warranty repairs are to be expected.

Your heat exchanger problem is a warranty repair that is fully covered.

The (wiring cable, CSP related) is not an issue for newly produced Mavericks and most never had the issue including me on my 2022 Maverick.

My 2023 Maverick that is being produced right now and has no Recall or TSB issues. Ford also has probably figured out what problem was with the "heat exchanger" that caused it to fail prematurely.

The 2023 Maverick is a year two product and I firmly believe that the initial hiccups have been ironed out.

Panicking and trying to project first year hiccups as problems going on forever to justify buying an ESP plan is not a good idea.

I don’t want to generalize Ford, but have you owned a Ford in the past? Our family member(s) that owned a Ford and even coworkers that had one in the past all have many issues that require a dealer visit or an Indy mechanic visit so often; not sure how much money we sunk into the vehicle.

 

[hdave]

What is so good about the bulb coverage?
In my last 10 years of owning a Lexus CT, I've only ever replaced one blinker and the stock halogens with LEDs (on my own) for a total cost of $50.

 

[huunvubu]

I don’t want to generalize Ford, but have you owned a Ford in the past? Our family member(s) that owned a Ford and even coworkers that had one in the past all have many issues that require a dealer visit or an Indy mechanic visit so often; not sure how much money we sunk into the vehicle.

Yes we have owned Ford vehicles in the past.

I owned a 1998 Ford Ranger XLT SuperCab for 16 years + 2 months.

This is a list of all repairs done over those 16+ years

Repairs

12/20/2002 22800.0 Repairs $163.91 Camber Kit
10/26/2006 44843.0 Repairs $81.03 Tensioner
10/26/2006 44843.0 Repairs $409.38 Power Steering Pump
12/13/2006 45221.0 Repairs $368.42 Front R/L Ball Joints
01/27/2007 45693.0 Repairs $101.85 Thermostat
10/10/2008 52459.0 Repairs $223.52 Multifunction Switch
05/11/2010 58945.0 Repairs $163.95 Stabilizer Links
05/11/2010 58945.0 Repairs $106.26 Stabilizer Sway Bar
11/04/2011 65900.0 Repairs $61.66 MAF Sensor
08/23/2012 69500.0 Repairs $26.50 Cruise Switches
10/25/2012 69900.0 Repairs $7.56 PCV Valve
12/18/2012 70300.0 Repairs $42.00 Find Coolant Leak
01/03/2013 70375.0 Repairs $124.90 ThermaGasket
03/16/2013 70980.0 Repairs $45.07 (2) Upstream O2 Sensor
03/25/2013 71075.0 Repairs $28.03 Downstream O2 Sensor
06/20/2013 71764.0 Repairs $529.57 Intake/Valve Gaskets
06/20/2013 71764.0 Repairs $59.54 DPFE/ERG Sensor
10/02/2013 72596.0 Repairs $102.00 Diagnostic
10/02/2013 72596.0 Repairs $114.79 6 Spark Plugs
10/02/2013 72596.0 Repairs $169.19 6 Spark Plug Wires
10/02/2013 72596.0 Repairs $21.11 PVC hose

Total Repairs over those 16+ years was $2950.24

The total cost of the repairs are much less than purchasing ESP warranty protection over all 16 years. And some of the repairs would not have been covered under the ESP warranty.

Also ESP warranties have clauses where they don't cover all costs of repairs like fluids and parts that are subject to wear and tear.

 

[paneubert]

I did Granger, and went with the

What is so good about the bulb coverage?
In my last 10 years of owning a Lexus CT, I've only ever replaced one blinker and the stock halogens with LEDs (on my own) for a total cost of $50.

$1,600 Bald Eagle Freedom Bucks to replace a headlight. They are all a one-piece assembly and not customer serviceable (unless you pay for the Ford OEM Motorcraft assembly and do the labor yourself). Zero aftermarket options at current time.

 

[hdave]

I did Granger, and went with the


$1,600 Bald Eagle Freedom Bucks to replace a headlight. They are all a one-piece assembly and not customer serviceable (unless you pay for the Ford OEM Motorcraft assembly and do the labor yourself). Zero aftermarket options at current time.

Oooff!! VERY GOOD recommendation!

 

[RLmesc]

Flood and Granger were priced the same EXCEPT, since I live in Iowa, Granger would have to charge me sales tax, adding a few hundred dollars, whereas Flood is out east and do t have a sales tax. Went with Flood.

 

[Shawn]

Anyone know if ESP covers carbon build up?

 

[Maui]

Right now the coverage seems wise, but what if I sell, or trade it early? Any rebate through Ford? Is it transferable to a 2nd owner??

 

[JoeB2656]

Yes we have owned Ford vehicles in the past.

I owned a 1998 Ford Ranger XLT SuperCab for 16 years + 2 months.

This is a list of all repairs done over those 16+ years

Repairs

12/20/2002 22800.0 Repairs $163.91 Camber Kit
10/26/2006 44843.0 Repairs $81.03 Tensioner
10/26/2006 44843.0 Repairs $409.38 Power Steering Pump
12/13/2006 45221.0 Repairs $368.42 Front R/L Ball Joints
01/27/2007 45693.0 Repairs $101.85 Thermostat
10/10/2008 52459.0 Repairs $223.52 Multifunction Switch
05/11/2010 58945.0 Repairs $163.95 Stabilizer Links
05/11/2010 58945.0 Repairs $106.26 Stabilizer Sway Bar
11/04/2011 65900.0 Repairs $61.66 MAF Sensor
08/23/2012 69500.0 Repairs $26.50 Cruise Switches
10/25/2012 69900.0 Repairs $7.56 PCV Valve
12/18/2012 70300.0 Repairs $42.00 Find Coolant Leak
01/03/2013 70375.0 Repairs $124.90 ThermaGasket
03/16/2013 70980.0 Repairs $45.07 (2) Upstream O2 Sensor
03/25/2013 71075.0 Repairs $28.03 Downstream O2 Sensor
06/20/2013 71764.0 Repairs $529.57 Intake/Valve Gaskets
06/20/2013 71764.0 Repairs $59.54 DPFE/ERG Sensor
10/02/2013 72596.0 Repairs $102.00 Diagnostic
10/02/2013 72596.0 Repairs $114.79 6 Spark Plugs
10/02/2013 72596.0 Repairs $169.19 6 Spark Plug Wires
10/02/2013 72596.0 Repairs $21.11 PVC hose

Total Repairs over those 16+ years was $2950.24

The total cost of the repairs are much less than purchasing ESP warranty protection over all 16 years. And some of the repairs would not have been covered under the ESP warranty.

Also ESP warranties have clauses where they don't cover all costs of repairs like fluids and parts that are subject to wear and tear.

I agree. ESPs like all insurance generate profit for the insurance company. This means on average, the cost of repairs over the life of the ESP is less than the price of the ESP. And this is in addition to whatever commissions are involved for the sales person. I can understand why people want an ESP and these are valid. Maybe you just don't want a surprise and expensive repair bill and are willing to pay extra to avoid that.
I am old and purchased an ESP for my wife's new car because I didn't want her to worry about repair costs once I croak. So while there are valid reasons for buying an ESP, they do not save money for most people.

 

[bighap]

What is so good about the bulb coverage?
In my last 10 years of owning a Lexus CT, I've only ever replaced one blinker and the stock halogens with LEDs (on my own) for a total cost of $50.

The headlights are non serviceable LEDs. Yes, they are supposed to last a long time but I've seen plenty of LEDs fail well before their claimed life expectancy. You will be spending around $1200 to replace the entire assembly.

 

[huunvubu]

When I was buying my 2022 Maverick and in financing they tried very hard to sell their ESP program by quoting the $1,600 cost for a LED Headlight replacement.

There is a reason they do this "to scare unsuspecting/unaware" customers who can't afford repairs of this magnitude.

What they don't tell you is that OEM LED Headlights are designed to last the life of the vehicle or that the cost of the ESP plan costs much more over time than just putting repair money aside especially if you put the ESP plan cost into the financing and pay interest on it.

In searching for "LED Headlight Failures" I have not seen OEM ones fail unless it was because of an accident (which is covered by insurance). A couple have been issues with assembly at the plant but those were found quickly and covered by the factory warranty.

Most of the failure posts are about aftermarket upgrades which are not the same design quality or work properly in vehicles not designed to use them.

Any time a finance person tries to use scare tactics it is to sell you something that really is not in your best interest and to make as much money for the dealership as possible.

 

[Mav_RICK]

When I was buying my 2022 Maverick and in financing they tried very hard to sell their ESP program by quoting the $1,600 cost for a LED Headlight replacement.

There is a reason they do this "to scare unsuspecting/unaware" customers who can't afford repairs of this magnitude.

What they don't tell you is that OEM LED Headlights are designed to last the life of the vehicle or that the cost of the ESP plan costs much more over time than just putting repair money aside especially if you put the ESP plan cost into the financing and pay interest on it.

In searching for "LED Headlight Failures" I have not seen OEM ones fail unless it was because of an accident (which is covered by insurance). A couple have been issues with assembly at the plant but those were found quickly and covered by the factory warranty.

Most of the failure posts are about aftermarket upgrades which are not the same design quality or work properly in vehicles not designed to use them.

Any time a finance person tries to use scare tactics it is to sell you something that really is not in your best interest and to make as much money for the dealership as possible.

The bulb coverage is $70 at Flood and Granger The entire warranty may have been $1600 depending on coverage selection.

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