Getting real tired of the $20k truck argument. ..rant

[vezpa]

I see the impatient haters here bashing on Ford for constraints and wait times. I also see the Fanboys singing Fords praise for anything they do, even while people have been waiting well over a year for Broncos, 100k plus F-150s sitting in storage lots waiting on chips and watching as Ford has more and more supply problems well documented in the mainstream news with many of their vehicles with no clear answer or solution.

I get the supply problems on this and other items. What I don't often get is the response and answers from Ford and some of the fanboys. I think Ford has a hit truck on their hands with this Maverick, but I think they also may have rushed out some things too soon and not offered different choices and solutions to some of the problems they are now facing.

What I CANNOT stand is people that keep bringing up the "What do you want or expect from a $20k truck", any time Ford is called to task or we ask why certain options are not available on this truck. I ordered a $28k XL and cant get a stand alone cruise control. My friend ordered a $33k XLT and couldn't get a Sirius radio. Lack of a black leather choice in a $37k Lariat. Constraints on items that could be completed later after the purchase by the dealer instead of holding up an order indefinitely. Can we still use the "what do you expect for a $20k truck excuse when addressing any complaint"? I understand that I bought a truck from the cheaper end of their line, but I didn't buy the bottom of the barrel FWD base model.

The price range on these Mavericks go from $20k up to about $40k. That is a huge swing. In my case, my build is just over $28k. That no longer qualifies my truck as a $20k truck, at least in my mind. Very few people are buying the base model with no options. I would venture a guess the average build is somewhere around $28k. I think people who are paying this much have the right to gripe or talk about without hearing the "what do you expect for a $20k truck comment. If you want to bitch about people complaining that's fine, just don't use the $20k truck argument.

I also think more constraints are going to keep coming, I hope I'm wrong. I am not one of those constantly complaining here every 5 minutes, but I'm afraid that while someone decides to patiently wait for an item on constraint, another will pop up a month or two further down the line, further delaying the order.

As a side note, I will go on the record saying the next constraint will be a sun roof...

Rant over...

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[stoptothink]

I see the impatient haters here bashing on Ford for constraints and wait times. I also see the Fanboys singing Fords praise for anything they do, even while people have been waiting well over a year for Broncos and watching as Ford has more and more supply problems well documented in the mainstream news with many of their vehicles with no clear answer or solution.

I get the supply problems. What I don't often get is the response and answers from Ford and some of the fanboys. I think Ford has a hit truck on their hands, but I think they also may have rushed out some things too soon or offered different choices and solutions to some problems.

What I CANNOT stand is people that keep bringing up the "What do you want or expect from a $20k truck", any time Ford is called to task or we ask why certain options are not available on this truck. I ordered a $28k XL and cant get a stand alone cruise control. My friend ordered a $33k XLT and couldn't get a Sirius radio. Lack of a black leather choice in a $37k Lariat. Constraints on items that could be completed later after the purchase by the dealer instead of holding up an order indefinitely. Can we still use the "what do you expect for a $20k truck excuse when addressing any complaint"? I understand that I bought a truck from the cheaper end of their line, but I didn't buy the bottom of the barrel base model.

The price range on these Mavericks go from $20k up to about $40k. That is a huge swing. In my case, my build is just over $28k. That no longer qualifies my truck as a $20k truck, at least in my mind. Very few people are buying the base model with no options. I would venture a guess the average build is somewhere around $28k. I think people who are paying this much have the right to gripe or talk about without hearing the "what do you expect for a $20k truck comment.

Rant over...

If it doesn't meet your needs at the pricepoint you want, why are you buying it?

Why would Ford care about consumers wanting extra amenities when they have reservations for way more than they can produce, and if the original customer doesn't want what they ordered, they can almost assuredly sell it at a higher pricepoint immediately? Ford is a business.

 

[r100gs91]

Why Ford won't be transparent about issues is my main concern. I just called my dealer to drop the bed mat. I think the dealers are tired of us calling to adjust our orders. There was no hint of friendly in the tone of his voice.

 

[CASD57]

Why Ford won't be transparent about issues is my main concern. I just called my dealer to drop the bed mat. I think the dealers are tired of us calling to adjust our orders. There was no hint of friendly in the tone of his voice.

That’s the norm..from my experience with Ford dealers.....wait let me clarify....all dealers
both my trucks come to $28,000
trust me, I’ve pitched a fit... moved to another dealer, checked prices on Nissan Frontiers, was going to look at a Toyota Taco SR....thought about a Bronco Sport....but in the end the Maverick fits my needs including price
ill wait,,,,,

 

[WesM]

Hmm, I don't see the $20k argument all that often. What I find annoying is the whiny individuals who complain about how long its taking to get their truck, when Ford literally started production this month.

As for options you want... wait a year or two, maybe Ford will add them once they have the manufacturing/supply side of things running smoothly.

 

[es7129]

IMO the issue is that too much information is being released.
It’s a new launch during a pandemic. Sit tight or move along. Either way the trucks are getting built when they can.

 

[Connect]

I am very interested in the Maverick for the hybrid, the pricing, and the overall idea. I am not making any kind of purchase until next year. Does this meet everything I would want.... no..... but it ticks more boxes for me than anything else currently out there.

 

[Red Ryder]

If it doesn't meet your needs at the pricepoint you want, why are you buying it?

Why would Ford care about consumers wanting extra amenities when they have reservations for way more than they can produce, and if the original customer doesn't want what they ordered, they can almost assuredly sell it at a higher pricepoint immediately? Ford is a business.

I think you missed the OP's point.

I took it less about it meeting their "needs at a pricepoint", rather having to listen to the blindly loyal Ford fanboys trying to crush any dissent or discussion about the available options and configurations with the stupid "$20K truck" argument.
This is a discussion forum, it only has value if both good, bad, and indifferent opinions can be aired.
And yes, when optioned heavily, it competes in price with many other alternatives.

 

[vezpa]

I think you missed the OP's point.

I took it less about it meeting their "needs at a pricepoint", rather having to listen to the blindly loyal Ford fanboys trying to crush any dissent or discussion about the available options and configurations with the stupid "$20K truck" argument.
This is a discussion forum, it only has value if both good, bad, and indifferent opinions can be aired.
And yes, when optioned heavily, it competes in price with many other alternatives.

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[DryHeat]

I ordered a $28k XL and cant get a stand alone cruise control. My friend ordered a $33k XLT and couldn't get a Sirius radio. Lack of a black leather choice in a $37k Lariat.

I feel your pain. My XLT is just under $28, (incl. TTL), but I still can't get an ice cream maker.

Ford opted to roll this truck out with a limited number of choices. Maybe they did it to simplify the manufacturing process, control costs, or simplify ordering and inventory issues. But, for whatever reasons, it was their choice to make.

Whether it was a good choice will depend on how the market reacts. If they sell a zillion Mavericks -- while encouraging people to step up the trim ladder -- they're not going to care about the black leather or the ice cream maker. At most, they'll take our complaints under advisement for next year (although I'm pretty sure the ice cream maker is scheduled for 2025).

 

[vezpa]

I feel your pain. My XLT is just under $28, (incl. TTL), but I still can't get an ice cream maker.

At most, they'll take our complaints under advisement for next year (although I'm pretty sure the ice cream maker is scheduled for 2025).

I'm lactose intolerant.

 

[neosolidus]

I see the impatient haters here bashing on Ford for constraints and wait times. I also see the Fanboys singing Fords praise for anything they do, even while people have been waiting well over a year for Broncos, 100k plus F-150s sitting in storage lots waiting on chips and watching as Ford has more and more supply problems well documented in the mainstream news with many of their vehicles with no clear answer or solution.

I get the supply problems on this and other items. What I don't often get is the response and answers from Ford and some of the fanboys. I think Ford has a hit truck on their hands with this Maverick, but I think they also may have rushed out some things too soon and not offered different choices and solutions to some of the problems they are now facing.

What I CANNOT stand is people that keep bringing up the "What do you want or expect from a $20k truck", any time Ford is called to task or we ask why certain options are not available on this truck. I ordered a $28k XL and cant get a stand alone cruise control. My friend ordered a $33k XLT and couldn't get a Sirius radio. Lack of a black leather choice in a $37k Lariat. Constraints on items that could be completed later after the purchase by the dealer instead of holding up an order indefinitely. Can we still use the "what do you expect for a $20k truck excuse when addressing any complaint"? I understand that I bought a truck from the cheaper end of their line, but I didn't buy the bottom of the barrel FWD base model.

The price range on these Mavericks go from $20k up to about $40k. That is a huge swing. In my case, my build is just over $28k. That no longer qualifies my truck as a $20k truck, at least in my mind. Very few people are buying the base model with no options. I would venture a guess the average build is somewhere around $28k. I think people who are paying this much have the right to gripe or talk about without hearing the "what do you expect for a $20k truck comment. If you want to bitch about people complaining that's fine, just don't use the $20k truck argument.

I also think more constraints are going to keep coming, I hope I'm wrong. I am not one of those constantly complaining here every 5 minutes, but I'm afraid that while someone decides to patiently wait for an item on constraint, another will pop up a month or two further down the line, further delaying the order.

As a side note, I will go on the record saying the next constraint will be a sun roof...

Rant over...

I went off on my dealer last week because of the same problem, I was complaining about something and he said what do you expect from a 20k truck and I was like have you seen my build(which he had on hand) it cost 37k not 20k.

Its so annoying when people use the under 20k start price to justify all failures/ lack of features, regardless of starting price the vehicle should reflect its MSRP.

 

[OldSoulNewMaverick]

I feel your pain. My XLT is just under $28, (incl. TTL), but I still can't get an ice cream maker.

The ice cream maker will hold up your build. Just get the cab inverter and an aftermarket plug-in ice cream maker.

 

[vezpa]

I went off on my dealer last week because of the same problem, I was complaining about something and he said what do you expect from a 20k truck and I was like have you seen my build(which he had on hand) it cost 37k not 20k.

Its so annoying when people use the under 20k start price to justify all failures, regardless of starting price the vehicle should reflect its MSRP.

Exactly what I'm talking about.

 

[stoptothink]

I think you missed the OP's point.

I took it less about it meeting their "needs at a pricepoint", rather having to listen to the blindly loyal Ford fanboys trying to crush any dissent or discussion about the available options and configurations with the stupid "$20K truck" argument.
This is a discussion forum, it only has value if both good, bad, and indifferent opinions can be aired.
And yes, when optioned heavily, it competes in price with many other alternatives.

I'm certainly no Ford fanboy, I've never even considered owning one. I do have great personal experience with Hyundai, and in fact was looking at Hyundai sedans for our next vehicle (Santa Cruz is a no-go for many reasons). Maverick was an anomaly, made us consider a brand and a type of vehicle we never would have otherwise even looked at. I don't see a lot of fanboy posts on this board, but I see a lot of complaining by individuals who should have known what they signed up for when they made a reservation.

I'm a first time Ford customer. I don't feel deceived or cheated or otherwise have any complaints.

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