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So ACC is getting even more expensive? Since now there's yet another package to order, in addition to Lux package, in addition to Lariat?
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Ford definitely knows how to put my nuts in a vice grip here.

I just want an XL with ACC, but they're gunna nut crunch like 10K out of my wallet on this Lariat/Lux/new ACC requirement.

Damn I hope they buy me dinner at least.
 
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I definitely read this as there is a CP360 package for all trims, and an exclusive CP360 Assist available only on the Lariat Lux.

Otherwise not much real news here. Standard cruise is a nice update.

Any idea what the removal of remote start means? Like it won’t be on the key fob? Or it won’t work at all even through FordPass?
 

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sounds like it...
Well, Ford IS upfront in saying they're making changes to deal with parts constraints. If someone's gonna order something constrained, and have it sit on Ford's order books for God knows how long, Ford's gonna make you pay more for it. They'd much rather you just do without, let them build/send you a good-enough truck.
 

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Any idea what the removal of remote start means? Like it won’t be on the key fob? Or it won’t work at all even through FordPass?
I think if they removed it from FordPass, people would riot. Has happened with other "software" based options from other automakers that they tried to either remove or start charging a monthly fee to use.

I read it as they are removing the hard button on the key fob for remote start. Making it optional instead of standard.
 

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So, basically, for a 2023 XLT with the Lux pkg, you’ll be paying more money for MSRP than a ‘22 model, and won’t have any bed liner, whether it be spray in or drop in, at all, and no bed rails. They will be added options, which cost more money. Oh brother!! So much for ordering an XLT with the Lux pkg!!
It's pretty much how they did the BS in year two. Broke apart a few packages but it ended up costing more to get everything.
 

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I think if they removed it from FordPass, people would riot. Has happened with other "software" based options from other automakers that they tried to either remove or start charging a monthly fee to use.

I read it as they are removing the hard button on the key fob for remote start. Making it optional instead of standard.
I guess that makes sense. They had 2 different key fobs for the XLT before - one with a remote start button and one without. Guess that’s how it will be for Lariat now as well.
 

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sounds like it...
How? We don’t even know the prices. They could’ve just as easily seperated ACC and the other safety features from lariat LUX while lowering lariat LUX package price slightly.

cant really judge these changes until prices are released.
 

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Dammit...if anything, the XLT LUX $2,500 option should be much less without the drop/spray liner and tie-down rails. If it still costs above $1,725.71 — I'll drop it off the '23 order.
 
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I guess that makes sense. They had 2 different key fobs for the XLT before - one with a remote start button and one without. Guess that’s how it will be for Lariat now as well.
If you didnt get a remote start package in my22 could you still use ford pass to remote start?
 

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Dammit...if anything, the XLT LUX $2,500 option should be much less without the drop/spray liner and tie-down rails. If it still costs above $1,725.71 — I'll drop it off the '23 order.
In way this should break up the lux orders up . I see lot less people ordering the lux if your above statement is true
 

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If you didnt get a remote start package in my22 could you still use ford pass to remote start?
Yes. Even the base XL can be remote started from ford pass.
 

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I definitely read this as there is a CP360 package for all trims, and an exclusive CP360 Assist available only on the Lariat Lux.
It's a bit confusing, but there's Co-Pilot360 which is a base set of features. Then there are CP360 Assist and CP360 Assist+ packages, depending on the vehicle model and features included.

Take for example a 2022 Escape. Standard on every 2022 Escape, from S through Titanium, is a Co-Pilot360 suite of features.

Ford Maverick What’s new: changes for 2023 Maverick 1663089381784


On SE and SEL, a CP360 Assist+ package is available. It's standard on Titanium.

Ford Maverick What’s new: changes for 2023 Maverick 1663089433225


As it relates to Maverick, it remains to be seen how they handle this.

For 2022, Maverick has the following CP360 package. On XL, it adds the power mirrors that the other trims get standard.

Ford Maverick What’s new: changes for 2023 Maverick 1663089664533


For 2022, Maverick Luxury Package requires CP360.

For 2023, there will be a CP360 Assist package on Lariat that includes those features removed from Lariat Luxury Package. This CP360 Assist package will only be available in combination with Lariat Luxury Package.

What we don't know is if the same standard CP360 package as shown above will be available on Lariat, with/without Lariat Luxury Package. Or, if Lariat will only be able to get CP360 Assist.

Any idea what the removal of remote start means? Like it won’t be on the key fob? Or it won’t work at all even through FordPass?
As others have mentioned, this is referring to remote start on the key fob. That feature requires a different fob but also the long range antenna setup etc because remote start on the fob works farther than your typical door unlock/lock fob. Meaning depending on where you're parked, you can be upstairs in your office, look out the window, and start your vehicle.

All vehicles (with limited exceptions, probably including manual transmissions) with FordPass Connect can be remote started via the FordPass app. Remote start through the app does not require factory remote start via the fob.
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