Some 22MY Mavericks may get pushed to MY23

[X17Ridgeline]

Think of it as owning a futures contract on a MY23 at MY22 prices. And you even get your $100 contract purchase price back when you take delivery. What a great investment you have made in this time of inflation.

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[Jatrax]

ok - like I said - the plant is maxed out - 25k a month are the prod number and that's their capacity.

Max capacity which they are not doing due to parts shortages. As already explained by others.

So they knew the number of mav and bronco sports orders they had to fill when they closed up the order books this January. So having that basic information it's simple math to extrapolate if - giving continuous max output - 25k and knowing the pending volume left to make that they could put out a blurb about how many more they have left to make so we would have some hint, based on when you ordered and if you ordered a pure base model or something with few options, a general idea as to when yours might show up.

Why would they do that? Any estimate would be wrong.
- They are not running at max and even if they were they cannot say that will continue.
- They have no idea when any particular truck will get built because they have no idea what parts will be available until the week before when they run through the orders and see which orders match up to parts available.
- They have only an estimate of how many vehicles they can get made by end of model year, and that estimate is almost certainly going to be wrong.

Something...anything...what's the big deal of putting out the numbers?

Because they know any numbers they have today will be at the mercy of factors they have no control over. So if they publish a number people will jump all over them for lying when it turns out wrong. I know that from experience being the 'face' of a company a long time ago. If you open your mouth and give someone your best estimate and you are wrong you are instantly accused of lying, and intentionally misleading the public. You can't win and the only course of action is to say nothing.

Like I said before I am truly sorry you have so much anger over this issue but you are asking for something that is just not physically possible and getting mad because you can't have it. If this is stressing you out so much perhaps you might be better off canceling the order and moving on. Stress is not good for you.

 

[Hoagus]

“Some” is optimistic, even the article says “many orders may wind up being pushed”

”Many” is vague. It’s like saying, “A number of them will be rolled into MY23.” What is that number? Is it 500, 1000 or 10,000?

 

[Hoagus]

I'd be pissed to get a "new" 2022 in October 2022. I'd rather be rolled over and get a 2023 a few months later.

There’s nothing magical about the model year. It’s still a brand new truck.

 

[mtd14]

”Many” is vague. It’s like saying, “A number of them will be rolled into MY23.” What is that number? Is it 500, 1000 or 10,000?

Luckily, there’s actually some definitions to them that differentiate. Some refers to a small number or amount, many is a large number. The original article uses many, so being consistent with many would be more accurate unless you have info they do not.

 

[onetequilatwo]

Starting to think almost all eco will be built this year and 90% of the roll-overs will be hybrids. We don't know the total number of Maverick orders and some speculate in the 110,000 and 120,000 range. If the vins are the number to be built at 88 series than 100k is a good round ball park that will be built as MY22.

 

[Mite-o-Dan]

There’s nothing magical about the model year. It’s still a brand new truck.

Well, yes...technically, you're right. But a 2023 in December of 2022 is whole lot more NEWER, and probably better with less faults, than a 2022 in October or 2022.

What's crazy, 3+ years ago, you'd be able to buy a lot of "new" current model year vehicles off the lot for $3000-$5000 less than MSRP so they can make way for next model years coming in. Now, getting a Maverick for only $5000 OVER MSRP is considered a good deal.

 

[Old Dog]

Well all over Facebook groups people are complaining that Ford is building XL's and plain XLT's instead of Lariats.

Ordered my XLT EB Oct 14, 2021. Removed all addons ( ordered alter market ) Picked up from dealer today. Really lucky I guess. It is everything I thought it would be and more. Really happy so far...............

 

[SiGmA_X]

Still in hopes that my first edition will be made by December 31st 2022...

Do you think that'll become a Second Edition?

 

[Rainey]

Still in hopes that my first edition will be made by December 31st 2022...

I have read a number of times that Ford is committed to producing all FE Mavericks in 22. Afterall the first year is the only year that you can actually make a FE model!

 

[Maverick2023]

companies don't publish proprietary inside information on production. After last months sales and produced YTD reports released/posted we were able to confirm approx 66,500 Mavericks built in 2021 & 2022 YTD combined. There's a thread on here if you look for it, tracking highest VIN assigned to members here and it was around 88,xxx. That left about 22k Mavericks left to build in June, July, August, Sept, + 2 weeks of Oct. It's certainly possible there are more, but no evidence it's 10's of Thousands more. I still believe MOST of remaining orders will be built by end of MY2022 production in mid- October. The few that don't get built will most likely be because of parts not showing up on time to complete some ordered trucks and those will be finished when parts do become available.

Let’s hope you’re right with the analysis

 

[MD_Maverick]

May be ironic/strange but after posting this thread a few minutes ago, I got my "built, awaiting transportation" notice on my Cactus Gray Lariat with the 360 being the only constraint item. Ordered Nov 23 and built on June 23. Seven months to the day!! Looks like it may arrive while I am on my annual vacation!!!!

So, there is hope if you can wait. Some because of circumstances, perhaps can't and that is too bad.

fuck me, took everything off my truck including the 360 to remove constraints. Ordered first week of Nov. I assume you’re an ecoboost

 

[Timothyd]

Care to share your proof the plant is "maxed out" on production capacity?

Do you know for a fact how many actual production lines are available at the Hermosillo plant?
Do you know for a fact how many days per week they run?
Do you know for a fact how many shifts they run per day?
Do you know for a fact how many employees they have?
Do you know for a fact how many employees can/do work overtime?

As someone who worked a few years in production in various roles early in my career, I can tell you 1st hand production capacity is fluid and adaptable based on the above questions I posed. They can add or drop shifts and offer overtime as needed to address capacity. They can also add more lines, which will be inevitable when next generation Transit Connect shifts production there as Farley already confirmed.

It is far more likely they are limited by materials and have a very good estimate of how many more Mavs they can build this year based on supplier commitments, and thus cut off new orders when they did hoping/expecting to build as much of the balance of unscheduled orders as possible (within constraints) for MY2022.

None of us KNOW.

 

[Bob The Builder]

Sort of thinking out loud here but sometimes I wonder how serious Ford is with building the Maverick in general. This hit home to me last night watching a YouTube video on the Lightening. On the video Ford is talking about pushing out 150K of these trucks in 2023. I mean these trucks are a rolling computer to put it a bit facetiously.

If there are still serious supply chain issues and chip shortages going forward, where does that leave a low profit margin vehicle like the Maverick in 2023 when right now even ordering a moonroof or CP360 can be a constraint?

Like I said, just thinking out loud.

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