Some 22MY Mavericks may get pushed to MY23

[Old Ranchero]

the plant in Mexico is maxed out - they produce 25k vehicles a month, so they are producing at normal capacity.

Care to share your proof the plant is "maxed out" on production capacity?

Do you know for a fact how many actual production lines are available at the Hermosillo plant?
Do you know for a fact how many days per week they run?
Do you know for a fact how many shifts they run per day?
Do you know for a fact how many employees they have?
Do you know for a fact how many employees can/do work overtime?

As someone who worked a few years in production in various roles early in my career, I can tell you 1st hand production capacity is fluid and adaptable based on the above questions I posed. They can add or drop shifts and offer overtime as needed to address capacity. They can also add more lines, which will be inevitable when next generation Transit Connect shifts production there as Farley already confirmed.

It is far more likely they are limited by materials and have a very good estimate of how many more Mavs they can build this year based on supplier commitments, and thus cut off new orders when they did hoping/expecting to build as much of the balance of unscheduled orders as possible (within constraints) for MY2022.

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[Old Ranchero]

there'll be some a-kicking if that happens. If/when we see posts about that they're going to have a PR meltdown.

nope

 

[Old Ranchero]

Or at least tell anyone putting in a 2023 order that hey we already have X thousands in the queue from last year and based on simple math those aren't going to get all produced until whatever quarter in 2023 and 2023s will not begin to be scheduled until after ALL of those are produced. In that, supposedly, they are building vehicles in the order they were received it should be simple to keep a running total of new incoming orders and tell any customer at the desk - based on producing about 8K Mavs a month -and with the cavaet that ANY option you add can influence this - what quarter their vehicle will be produced in.

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[Old Ranchero]

agree. It's no surprise to them that they are lag

agree. It's no surprise to them that 'many' will likely be 2k23s now, they knew the volume of orders they had, they know the plant is maxed out, so simple math told them long long ago - back at the beginning of the year that there was no way these were all going to get produced yet they sat on their a**es and just let everyone sit around hoping and expecting that they'd get theirs within 8 or 10 months. This corporate BS about 'well as we all well know ...' is trite and sickening. They are the ones who know the total real orders in the queue, all we are / were are speculators. What's the point of waiting half a year to tell us this and wasting everyone's time including their service reps trying to find out a timeline when the customer's ride was going to get produced, what's the logic and philosophy behind that? When they come out next month and send out some blanket well if you don't have a notification by this date that we're gonna build your truck then you're getting a 2023 they better damn well tell us how many orders that will be so we'll have some friggin idea if it's gonna be the end of this year or next spring or summer. Honestly, this big business corporate 'hide the facts' mentality sucks.

What planet do you hail from? Certainly not Planet Reality.

 

[FloodingdowninTX]

Ford doesn’t care

Reminds me of a joke: My wife says I only have two faults, I don't listen...and something else.

 

[Jatrax]

agree. It's no surprise to them that 'many' will likely be 2k23s now, they knew the volume of orders they had, they know the plant is maxed out, so simple math told them long long ago - back at the beginning of the year that there was no way these were all going to get produced yet they sat on their a**es and just let everyone sit around hoping and expecting that they'd get theirs within 8 or 10 months. This corporate BS about 'well as we all well know ...' is trite and sickening. They are the ones who know the total real orders in the queue, all we are / were are speculators. What's the point of waiting half a year to tell us this and wasting everyone's time including their service reps trying to find out a timeline when the customer's ride was going to get produced, what's the logic and philosophy behind that? When they come out next month and send out some blanket well if you don't have a notification by this date that we're gonna build your truck then you're getting a 2023 they better damn well tell us how many orders that will be so we'll have some friggin idea if it's gonna be the end of this year or next spring or summer. Honestly, this big business corporate 'hide the facts' mentality sucks.

Wow, lot's of anger there, sorry you are so upset. Don't really understand where it comes from though. Unless you think Ford management is deliberately holding up production for some reason. Or withholding information just to make you mad.
All anyone can do is make predictions based on the information they have at the time. They cut off orders when their predictions said that was all they could produce before model year end. At the time we were hearing the chip shortage would abate by summer 2022 but that seems to have been in error as now its summer 2023 I am hearing. My point is that the situation is fluid and they can only go by what their suppliers tell them and when that's wrong an incredibly complex supply chain becomes even more disrupted.
Again, I am sorry you are so upset by this but it is the reality we live in today.

 

[pigsareus]

I still don't get this level of anger over an ordered vehicle. I'd like to have mine (it's been almost 9 months now since I ordered), but I don't "sit around hoping". I live my life like I always have and will take delivery when it's built. I don't understand that sort of emotional investment in what is basically an economy car disguised as a truck, though that's not to knock the Maverick - it's a great vehicle. I don't understand emotional investment in any car of any price, though.

Just go on about your life and stop stressing over it so much. They want to sell you a Maverick and they're doing the best they can. It would make no sense for them to do otherwise.

not stressed just unhappy with their lack of publishing the remaining volumes to be made and the SWAG based on remaining numbers and average numbers they produce by month. Some of us - Me - knew that it would be a long wait and really didn't expect anything for at least 9 months and up to a year - and are trying to keep the old beater running until then. If them come back and say oh well yeah we know we have 80k more to make so look for it next spring well then possibly some repairs I'm trying to put off I'd go ahead and do since I knew that its not showing up for another 9 months. They know the numbers - what is the big reason to keep it a big old secret?

 

[pigsareus]

Wow, lot's of anger there, sorry you are so upset. Don't really understand where it comes from though. Unless you think Ford management is deliberately holding up production for some reason. Or withholding information just to make you mad.
All anyone can do is make predictions based on the information they have at the time. They cut off orders when their predictions said that was all they could produce before model year end. At the time we were hearing the chip shortage would abate by summer 2022 but that seems to have been in error as now its summer 2023 I am hearing. My point is that the situation is fluid and they can only go by what their suppliers tell them and when that's wrong an incredibly complex supply chain becomes even more disrupted.
Again, I am sorry you are so upset by this but it is the reality we live in today.

ok - like I said - the plant is maxed out - 25k a month are the prod number and that's their capacity. It's not like they're only putting you 15K a month - they seem to be running full throttle. So they knew the number of mav and bronco sports orders they had to fill when they closed up the order books this January. So having that basic information it's simple math to extrapolate if - giving continuous max output - 25k and knowing the pending volume left to make that they could put out a blurb about how many more they have left to make so we would have some hint, based on when you ordered and if you ordered a pure base model or something with few options, a general idea as to when yours might show up. Now what's so hard about letting us know how many more of each are left to be made? We can do the simple math on our own. Something...anything...what's the big deal of putting out the numbers?

 

[pigsareus]

It's a comm

What planet do you hail from? Certainly not Planet Reality.

It's a common sense question. how many Sports and Mavs left to make - the plant puts out full cap of 25k a month - giving out a number will give us a general idea of what's left and at least some general idea if some/many are not going to show up until next summer. Now tell me what's the big deal about putting out that basic information - how many of each are left to be built.

 

[Automate]

ok - like I said - the plant is maxed out - 25k a month are the prod number and that's their capacity. It's not like they're only putting you 15K a month - they seem to be running full throttle.

Stop repeating lies! I already corrected you once here https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...icks-may-get-pushed-to-my23.16903/post-323663

 

[MLowe05]

Yeah I don't know why he thinks the plant is running at 100% capacity. It is not.

 

[Chance301]

Have an XLT hybrid Lux ordered on July 21. No production date. Haven’t bothered dealer or customer service for a couple of months. Still visit this site regularly but have accepted I’ll get a Maverick when I get it. My dealer has been upfront with me from the start and warned that delivery could be a year or more although he was initially hopeful it would be more like 6 months. I understand that supply chain issues have resulted in constraints and that there are significant delivery challenges. The only thing that really frustrates me is reading about folks who have received their vehicles ( with constraints) that had ordered long after June/July customers with identical orders that haven’t even received a build date. Obviously, Ford’s statements about oldest orders first wasn’t accurate.
Anyway, at this point I wouldn’t object to being carried over to a 2023

 

[NJ Pinelands]

So, basically, 2023 will probably be dedicated to fulfilling 2022 orders, meaning anyone ordering in August or whenever they were going to open it up probably won't get theirs until 2024. On the plus side, there's also out of control inflation destroying your savings, crashing stock market in case you want to invest it, shortages all over the place even basic things like baby formula, electricity rates through the roof, gas prices insane, and high housing prices with a bubble that's probably going to burst soon leading to another depression... yay!

That’s nothing in Toronto. Their fans go ANOTHER year without winning the Stanley Cup. The last time they won, the NHL had only SIX teams !

 

[Old Ranchero]

not stressed just unhappy with their lack of publishing the remaining volumes to be made and the SWAG based on remaining numbers and average numbers they produce by month. Some of us - Me - knew that it would be a long wait and really didn't expect anything for at least 9 months and up to a year - and are trying to keep the old beater running until then. If them come back and say oh well yeah we know we have 80k more to make so look for it next spring well then possibly some repairs I'm trying to put off I'd go ahead and do since I knew that its not showing up for another 9 months. They know the numbers - what is the big reason to keep it a big old secret?

companies don't publish proprietary inside information on production. After last months sales and produced YTD reports released/posted we were able to confirm approx 66,500 Mavericks built in 2021 & 2022 YTD combined. There's a thread on here if you look for it, tracking highest VIN assigned to members here and it was around 88,xxx. That left about 22k Mavericks left to build in June, July, August, Sept, + 2 weeks of Oct. It's certainly possible there are more, but no evidence it's 10's of Thousands more. I still believe MOST of remaining orders will be built by end of MY2022 production in mid- October. The few that don't get built will most likely be because of parts not showing up on time to complete some ordered trucks and those will be finished when parts do become available.

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