June Maverick Production — 10,000+ Units

[MLowe05]

Sure it's possible it's a conspiracy by Ford to help you get your order faster. I'm gambling on the lux package actually being constrained.

It's not a conspiracy. And the luxury packages are constrained. What I meant was that removing it didn't guarantee you anything. We've seen time and again on this forum people try to remove constrained items and it not make a difference. Maybe it will for you, but maybe it won't - and if it doesn't, you end up waiting just as long for a truck not the way you wanted it.

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[fordvideoguy]

@fordvideoguy do you have any guidance on XLT orders with both the Luxury Package and copilot 360 options? My hybrid XLT with both of these was confirmed on Oct 2nd. From what I read a few weeks ago, it seemed like the recommendation to remove options only applied to orders with either of these instead of both. I figured there might be overlap in the chips that are used making it more attractive for Ford to build orders with both packages instead of just one of them. Not sure if that's still a thing anymore though

I'm still seeing orders with both of those packages still being delayed. I think the biggest one is the luxury package since it is constrained to 13% whereas the copilot is constrained to somewhere in the 30% range.

 

[Samus L. Jackson]

Maybe it will help, I don't know. I didn't remove the lux believing it was a guarantee, but it seems like I have a better chance of it getting built sooner rather than later. If it takes too long I'll have to figure something else out, I don't have a vehicle of my own any longer and I was thinking I'd have a Maverick by this summer. If I kept a constrained item on, it was seeming like I probably wouldn't. So I removed it.

 

[Espeer]

This is a misunderstanding. They're merely changing how they give the allocations so that the early orders are prioritized. They're still distributing the builds via allocations.

This is verbatim from the Ford Motor Company account here:

"Traditionally, we have allocated vehicles to dealerships based on historical sales data, which helped determine the scheduling of orders. While we initially followed this process for Maverick, we quickly pivoted when customer demand exceeded expectations. As a result, orders are scheduled in the order in which they are received, regardless of dealer, pending any capacity and commodity limitations."

How is "regardless of dealer" not clear?

Order date and capacity/constraints are what matters.

Explain to me how we are misunderstanding this.

 

[theway-yay-ting]

This is verbatim from the Ford Motor Company account here:

"Traditionally, we have allocated vehicles to dealerships based on historical sales data, which helped determine the scheduling of orders. While we initially followed this process for Maverick, we quickly pivoted when customer demand exceeded expectations. As a result, orders are scheduled in the order in which they are received, regardless of dealer, pending any capacity and commodity limitations."

How is "regardless of dealer" not clear?

Order date and capacity/constraints are what matters.

Explain to me how we are misunderstanding this.

You’re misunderstanding it because they are STILL using allocations. @fordvideoguy mentioned their allocation number for April just the other day. A couple commenters here seem to think they’ve thrown allocations completely out the window.
Now, is Ford likely relying MORE on order date than they were previously? I believe so. But they are still assigning production dates based on a formula that includes how many allocations a given dealer has (and depending on parts availability). Otherwise they wouldn’t bother giving dealers an allocation number for a given month.

 

[DryHeat]

This is verbatim from the Ford Motor Company account here:

"As a result, orders are scheduled in the order in which they are received, regardless of dealer, pending any capacity and commodity limitations."

How is "regardless of dealer" not clear?

Order date and capacity/constraints are what matters.

You’re misunderstanding it because they are STILL using allocations.

Here's my guess about how order date and allocations play together...

What I've seen of my dealer's computer system looks like a system that is designed to run on allocations. Dealers get allocations, then their orders get scheduled.

My guess is that, to work with the existing computerized system, Ford is simply giving Maverick allocations to dealers based on when the orders were received by Ford (rather than based on whatever they used to consider).

The result is that dealers still see allocations in their system -- and still talk about allocations -- but those allocations correspond to the oldest (buildable) orders in the system. It's probably not working 100% that way, but that seems to be what Ford is trying to do.

 

[Espeer]

Here's my guess about how order date and allocations play together...

What I've seen of my dealer's computer system looks like a system that is designed to run on allocations. Dealers get allocations, then their orders get scheduled.

My guess is that, to work with the existing computerized system, Ford is simply giving Maverick allocations to dealers based on when the orders were received by Ford (rather than based on whatever they used to consider).

The result is that dealers still see allocations in their system -- and still talk about allocations -- but those allocations correspond to the oldest (buildable) orders in the system. It's probably not working 100% that way, but that seems to be what Ford is trying to do.

That's basically what I assumed, too.

 

[Automate]

I heard the same production numbers for the Maverick, and I also heard him talking about 21,000 Bronco Sports being bulld in June at the same plant. He mentioned the Maverick list of constraints, but I think the ones most people would be interested in is the Hybrid Engine is constrained to 40% and CoPilot 360 is constrained to 32%. That said, it looks like only 4,000 hybrid Maverick trucks per month are built.

What I find interesting is that CoPilot 360 is standard equipment in the Bronco Sport, so there is obviously no constraint for those 21,000 vehicles. But for the 10,000 Mavericks, only 3,200 will see CoPilot 360.

Assuming that the CP360 chipsets/circuitry is the same for both vehicles, the constraint seems interesting considering the backlog of Maverick Hybrids out there. As a side note, one can look at the Bronco Sport forum where it seems that they have a backlong akin to the non-hybrid Maverick.

Please, someone tell me if my numbers or thought process is wrong.

Only explanation I can think of is the Bronco Sport is generally much more expensive (i.e. more profit) so they are allocating more CP360 parts to the Bronco Sport.

 

[mrothe570]

Ordered in October. Is now April. I'm okay with being shifted to MY23 at this point. Who knows? Maybe there will be some new options I can splurge on. Wouldn't mind leather and a more expensive interior overall...

 

[MustangMech]

Ordered in October. Is now April. I'm okay with being shifted to MY23 at this point. Who knows? Maybe there will be some new options I can splurge on. Wouldn't mind leather and a more expensive interior overall...

And maybe there will be a Maverick ST option!

 

[Hatonapug]

I'm still boggling how the spray in bed liner is an issue. There's no chips in that. It's basically an epoxy and the holdup for it should be manpower/time for the install/application, I'd think. And with them having to shut down production every other week because they're out of chips... wouldn't it give their staff something to do?

Heated seats, etc make more sense because we've been hearing for a year how hard up for those chips all the dealers are.

Honestly if I'm not at least scheduled for prod by June (Meaning, what, August/Sept delivery?) I'm going to just start to hope an all electric version is announced before I'm scheduled and I can switch my order to that.

In the end, I'm still not sure I'm ever getting my truck. I just preordered when I placed my order. No signed contract/bill of sale that prevents my dealer from being a POS and jacking my price up to try and get another piece of inventory to sell. Have to wait and see. Haven't seen my dealer mentioned before here, so no hints as to if I'll be one of the lucky ones whose dealer honors their agreements or not.

 

[Kunari801]

My dealer has already told me that it is unlikely I will get my Lariat Lux, ordered on 1/14, as a 22 unless I drop the Lux package.

I ordered mine in early Oct (after my first dealer "forgot" to submit my order in Aug) and they already told me Lariat Lux is probably going to be pushed to 2023. So I'm in a holding pattern to see if I squeak into MY22 or not. If not then I'll decide.

 

[Hunny]

I mean, I don't know for sure, but it sure doesn't sound great for build with luxury packs, and that includes mine. I don't really know what to do, because I honestly really WANT the luxury pack on my XLT. I mean, in addition to "creature comforts" such as the heated seats and steering wheel, the package includes a bed liner, power outlets in the cab and bed and bed lighting. These are all very useful "truck" type features that will be great when hauling loads or when I just want to plug my air compressor or battery charger into the bed outlet while working on projects. If I wanted a basic build, I would have ordered it that way.

I have no inside track on anything, buy for me, being a January order, I honestly just feel like it's a roll of the dice. I can't say it's impossible, because I've seen plenty of other January orders with luxury packages already get scheduled. But I also don't think it's likely either. Really disappointing, to be honest...

Placed my order July 2021.......... heavy sigh.......

 

[ERob81]

I ordered the front wheel, 2.0 XLT back in December 21' with an added sunroof and full size tire with no lux package and was told to remove my full size tire and it may get in production sooner than later? I asked about adding the bed liner to my order and was told anything added will make the production later, so definitely unsure when mine will be into production without the Lux package? Since placing my order I received one email late March from Ford stating some features can lengthen the production and will inform me when my vehicle will be in production. With mine being 'basic XLT' and my dealer not sure when will be in production it's not looking good for those with the higher end models and packages.

 

[KenJ45]

So basically, your saying those of us with Lux packages should be ready to buy a Ridgeline or re-order for a huge wait for MY 23.... If they can't build them by October 21, then they sure as hell can't build them for MY 23... But I would bet that dealers will take orders for them and with the Ford Allocations System, New Orders will be built before Re-Orders. FORD JUST PLAIN SUCKS.

I thought most of the time vehicles not built before the cut off just roll over to the next model year in the front of the queue?? At least I think that was what happened with the Bronco orders, would it be different for the Maverick? Or are we all just going full doom and gloom?

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