This will be the last Ford I buy

[Carlitos_92]

You’re 360 degrees off from where my experience lies.

Side note: 360 degrees is a full revolution, pointing you in the exact same direction.

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[babytruk]

Side note: 360 degrees is a full revolution, pointing you in the exact same direction.

Oh!… you did a 180 on the 360 comment

 

[Nuvolari]

I know multiple people who had major issues with Honda's within a week. My dad's first and last Honda lasted 2 days before the engine blew lol.

My wife bought a Civic in 2000. She drove it for a few years, and then it just became a "town car". A tank of gas a year for 10 years. Finally gave it to our daughter who drives 60 miles round trip daily. She hit a deer. Had to replaced the headlights and fist pound a ripple out of the hood. It currently has 110000 miles on it. The thermostat, front brake pads, battery and tires have been replaced. The Honda and our 2017 RAV4 are the most dependable, least cost per mile, cars we have ever owned.

 

[Red Eyes - Wide Shut]

Most of the issues you have are fairly easy and inexpensive to fix. Things like the crappy plastic and windshields...not so much.

Shouldn't really have so many issues. The battery issue has not been resolved yet. Many incomplete and abandoned SSM's. A fix is not that cheap and should not be required. You either need to get the dealership to address the battery issue until your warranty runs out or get Forscan, an OBD connector, a battery load tester, a battery meter and finally a trickle charger, AGM's do not necessarily fix the discharge and charging issue.
I can't say what you should do or how easy it is to deal with stuff.
I understand your frustration and loss of faith. I hope you find a way forward. Peace of mind is everything.
Good luck......

 

[JetFixxxer]

This will be a long post so feel free to skim through or skip.

I wanted to love the Maverick as Ford finally came out with a hybrid truck and it seemed too good to be true. It is. I was one of ones interested at the beginning and placed my order in September 2021. I joined this forum in November 2021 and was pretty active on here anxiously waiting for my truck. I was also a long-time viewer of Tim's weekly YT show.

I was finally given a VIN number and build date for October 2022 and ended up being one of the vehicles whose VIN was canceled and had to re-order a 2023. I eventually got my truck in March 2023, 18 months after I ordered. When I sat in it for the first time, the backseat wasn't as roomy as everyone said, but it looked good and I already waited long enough for it so I ended up buying it. I did get a great deal on it as I had the rollover rebate and X-Plan so I ended up paying about $32k for a truck with a $38k sticker price and a mark-up value of around $45k at the time.

My initial plan was that this truck would hold its value and I could trade it in after 2-3 years and move up to an F150 which is what I always wanted. Well, I was disappointed pretty early on and tried to trade it in after only 3-4 monhts and,at least in Florida they certainly do not hold their value. I was offered $29k for the truck. I decided to hold onto it and try enjoy it. I did ceramic tint all around, added a ceramic coat to it since everyone was doing it (that was a waste of money), added PFF on the hood and front, did a spray-in bed liner, and added some accessories to it to make it my own. The truck looks badass, I will give it that, especially when done right. However, it has had nothing but problems for me.

*Here are the problems if you want to skip*

• FIrst of all, I have never gotten the magical 50 mpg that a lot of hybrid owners claim. I usually only average about 35-37 mpg which is great, but not what I was expecting. Still for a truck, I can't complain too much. The rest of the problems though are inexcusable.
• The interior scratches if you just look at it wrong. I have two dogs and after just 3 months the interior looked worse than my Rav4 I traded in after 5 years.
• There is something wrong with the windshield design/material as it is not strong at all. I have replaced my windshield twice in the first year from rocks and I currently have a crack that I've just been living with for the last year as I don't feel like paying or taking another insurance ding.
• My windshield wiper tank was cracked or something as it was emptying out within a week of filling it up and the dealer couldn't find the problem, just ended up replacing it.
• My CV axles ended up needing replaced after only 30k miles. Luckily this was under the warranty, but they had my truck for a month waiting on parts.
• I had water getting into my cabin behind the center console and was getting my floorboards wet and moldy. I believe they said it was something with the evaporator and they replaced my entire carpet and whatever else they did. This was also under the warranty.
• The water is coming back into the cabin, but is out of warranty and they want an additional charge to diagnose again.
• The ambient air sensor broke and caused the HVAC system to stop working. Had to get that replaced, not under warranty $700
• The Bluetooth randomly decides to not recognize my phone and I have to restart the truck or remember the reset sequence for the info screen, which is annoying as it happened frequently.
• The truck will sometimes go into Deep Sleep mode and the headlights will start strobing for no reason.
• The latest issue is I am now getting a System Shift Fault when I start the truck and it won't let me out of Park. I have to turn the truck off and restart it after a few seconds.
• In the Ford app, I can't do see anything because it says the truck is in Battery Saver Mode. I did it previously, but it went away after I took it in for the air sensor issue. It's back now, probably because of the System Shift issue.

This truck has just had so many issues and many of them like the Bluetooth and Deep Sleep don't really seem to have a solution. The dealer said they can't do anything if they can't duplicate it and/or it doesn't trigger an error code and since it happens randomly, I'm shit out of luck. I wish I could get rid of it as a lemon, but in Florida, it has to be the same issue four times and since it has just been a bunch of different ones, nothing can be done.

This was my first Ford vehicle and while I was hoping to stay in the Ford family and move up to a bigger vehicle, between the problems I have had with this truck and with my dealer, I want nothing more to do with them. Because the resale value is shit, I have to hold onto the truck for another year or so to at least have enough trade-in value to get something else. I will be going back to Honda or Toyota where I have never had a problem outside of a Civic that needed a new header after 200k miles on it.

/tldr This truck is a POS and I regret ever buying it, but am stuck with it

All those issue suck and I understand why you dont' want another FORD, but the grass might not be greener elsewhere. All manufacturers have issue. You just happened to be unfortunate to get a Maverick that keeps taking time and money out of your pocket. I would also swear off Ford after 34 years of only owning Fords.

The only time I get 50+ is when I take the back way and stay off the highways. I tend to do 75-80 even then I get around 38-40 in the winter and 42-46 in the summer.

 

[Red Eyes - Wide Shut]

All those issue suck and I understand why you dont' want another FORD, but the grass might not be greener elsewhere. All manufacturers have issue. You just happened to be unfortunate to get a Maverick that keeps taking time and money out of your pocket. I would also swear off Ford after 34 years of only owning Fords.

The only time I get 50+ is when I take the back way and stay off the highways. I tend to do 75-80 even then I get around 38-40 in the winter and 42-46 in the summer.

Toyota and Honda are pretty green. Combined, they have fewer recalls than Ford last year. A total of 153, a new record.

 

[tiktokbrainrot]

Toyota and Honda are pretty green.

Honda hybrids have the same battery charging issues Ford has, their V6s were recalled for exploding, and their 9 speed transmission (a ZF model) has the same non serviceable filter BS that Ford has with the 8f35; and their 10 speed is now failing at 60-80k miles with no repairs possible, just a $10k replacement. Toyota's CVTs in their traditional gas cars are just as unreliable as the Nissan equivalent, the Rav 4's interior is a cheap chintzy mess that rattles like a poorly built maverick, and their 10 speed transmissions and the new 3.4L V6 are exploding time bombs. And cheap plastics galore! So much broken trim.....

And Toyota these days is riding HARD on that reputation. Their service and sales departments are downright sickening to deal with, I'm talking Kia tier nonsense.

And wanna talk software? The maverick's features at least WORK. For honda, that's a suggestion, their IT is a decade behind and it shows in their sensors and how crude their safety tech feels compared to the Fords. Dad's Ridgeline did not impress me at all in how it actually operated. Looked good on paper, but felt like a 2010 honda in practice. Toyota meanwhile loves subscriptions for things Ford gives for free, like the phone connectivity and remote start.

That green grass? It's been spray painted and the masses have deluded themselves into thinking the paint is natural for healthy lawns.

 

[JetFixxxer]

Toyota and Honda are pretty green. Combined, they have fewer recalls than Ford last year. A total of 153, a new record.

Just because they don't hold the worlds record in recalls like Ford, doesn't mean a garage queen doesn't make it out of the factory.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

My wife bought a Civic in 2000. She drove it for a few years, and then it just became a "town car". A tank of gas a year for 10 years. Finally gave it to our daughter who drives 60 miles round trip daily. She hit a deer. Had to replaced the headlights and fist pound a ripple out of the hood. It currently has 110000 miles on it. The thermostat, front brake pads, battery and tires have been replaced. The Honda and our 2017 RAV4 are the most dependable, least cost per mile, cars we have ever owned.

It's different for everyone. I've had great experiences with kias and Ford's, and terrible experiences with Honda's and some Toyotas.

 

[710-oil-614]

Toyota and Honda are pretty green. Combined, they have fewer recalls than Ford last year. A total of 153, a new record.

Recalls are one statistic. Many manufacturers such as Toyota won’t issue a recall until they are legally required to do so.

Tacoma and 4Runner frame rot was a real thing that they were well aware of and it took a class action lawsuit to get Toyota to do something. They screwed over tens of thousands of loyal customers.

I was one of the lucky ones and my frame held up long enough for the lawsuit.

I made them replace my frame instead of taking an elevated trade in value on a new one.

 

[Meeka]

This will be a long post so feel free to skim through or skip.

I wanted to love the Maverick as Ford finally came out with a hybrid truck and it seemed too good to be true. It is. I was one of ones interested at the beginning and placed my order in September 2021. I joined this forum in November 2021 and was pretty active on here anxiously waiting for my truck. I was also a long-time viewer of Tim's weekly YT show.

I was finally given a VIN number and build date for October 2022 and ended up being one of the vehicles whose VIN was canceled and had to re-order a 2023. I eventually got my truck in March 2023, 18 months after I ordered. When I sat in it for the first time, the backseat wasn't as roomy as everyone said, but it looked good and I already waited long enough for it so I ended up buying it. I did get a great deal on it as I had the rollover rebate and X-Plan so I ended up paying about $32k for a truck with a $38k sticker price and a mark-up value of around $45k at the time.

My initial plan was that this truck would hold its value and I could trade it in after 2-3 years and move up to an F150 which is what I always wanted. Well, I was disappointed pretty early on and tried to trade it in after only 3-4 monhts and,at least in Florida they certainly do not hold their value. I was offered $29k for the truck. I decided to hold onto it and try enjoy it. I did ceramic tint all around, added a ceramic coat to it since everyone was doing it (that was a waste of money), added PFF on the hood and front, did a spray-in bed liner, and added some accessories to it to make it my own. The truck looks badass, I will give it that, especially when done right. However, it has had nothing but problems for me.

*Here are the problems if you want to skip*

• FIrst of all, I have never gotten the magical 50 mpg that a lot of hybrid owners claim. I usually only average about 35-37 mpg which is great, but not what I was expecting. Still for a truck, I can't complain too much. The rest of the problems though are inexcusable.
• The interior scratches if you just look at it wrong. I have two dogs and after just 3 months the interior looked worse than my Rav4 I traded in after 5 years.
• There is something wrong with the windshield design/material as it is not strong at all. I have replaced my windshield twice in the first year from rocks and I currently have a crack that I've just been living with for the last year as I don't feel like paying or taking another insurance ding.
• My windshield wiper tank was cracked or something as it was emptying out within a week of filling it up and the dealer couldn't find the problem, just ended up replacing it.
• My CV axles ended up needing replaced after only 30k miles. Luckily this was under the warranty, but they had my truck for a month waiting on parts.
• I had water getting into my cabin behind the center console and was getting my floorboards wet and moldy. I believe they said it was something with the evaporator and they replaced my entire carpet and whatever else they did. This was also under the warranty.
• The water is coming back into the cabin, but is out of warranty and they want an additional charge to diagnose again.
• The ambient air sensor broke and caused the HVAC system to stop working. Had to get that replaced, not under warranty $700
• The Bluetooth randomly decides to not recognize my phone and I have to restart the truck or remember the reset sequence for the info screen, which is annoying as it happened frequently.
• The truck will sometimes go into Deep Sleep mode and the headlights will start strobing for no reason.
• The latest issue is I am now getting a System Shift Fault when I start the truck and it won't let me out of Park. I have to turn the truck off and restart it after a few seconds.
• In the Ford app, I can't do see anything because it says the truck is in Battery Saver Mode. I did it previously, but it went away after I took it in for the air sensor issue. It's back now, probably because of the System Shift issue.

This truck has just had so many issues and many of them like the Bluetooth and Deep Sleep don't really seem to have a solution. The dealer said they can't do anything if they can't duplicate it and/or it doesn't trigger an error code and since it happens randomly, I'm shit out of luck. I wish I could get rid of it as a lemon, but in Florida, it has to be the same issue four times and since it has just been a bunch of different ones, nothing can be done.

This was my first Ford vehicle and while I was hoping to stay in the Ford family and move up to a bigger vehicle, between the problems I have had with this truck and with my dealer, I want nothing more to do with them. Because the resale value is shit, I have to hold onto the truck for another year or so to at least have enough trade-in value to get something else. I will be going back to Honda or Toyota where I have never had a problem outside of a Civic that needed a new header after 200k miles on it.

/tldr This truck is a POS and I regret ever buying it, but am stuck with it

I think this thread is on its way to surpass the oil/filter ones!

 

[Solaryellow]

I protected my crappy plastic with a $60 dog cradle found on Amazon. It was an easy cheap fix.

If it works for you, that's what matters.

Will it hold in liquids, like blood, or is it mainly for damp animals, clothes, etc..., in terms of moisture?

 

[Tbone289]

2022 -2024 XL and XLT don't use sync 3, but "base" system, also called "synch 2.5". The cheapo version for sure. Only Lariat has Synch 3 for those years.

It's actually called Connected Touch Radio, not Sync at all.

 

[babytruk]

It's actually called Connected Touch Radio, not Sync at all.

Is that why I have no complaints with my non/sync Mav?

 

[Tbone289]

Is that why I have no complaints with my non/sync Mav?

I don't have any complaints about CTR either, but I'm not sure it's just because it isn't Sync.

I had troubles with Android Audio when I first got my '24 Mav, but after I upgraded to a phone with Android 15, I've not any any issues since. I went from having to reboot CTR nearly every day to not having to reboot at all.

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