Rear Ended damage to Frame Rails or not?

[Glen Baker LLC]

Hey Bud, this could be fun for you. I bought it online since am from rural grand forks and there aint no COpart. So, i saw this online and tried my due diligence, but couldnt see this in person for sure as this was in MN. Having said that, if you hvae a good suggestion as to how can this be fixed. I wiuld appreciate thta.

It's what I refer to as a checkbook repair.
It comes down to disassembly see what parts are damaged. Get out your checkbook start buying new parts. Then reassembly there is no straightening or unbending involved.

Boron steel cannot be straightened because of the extremely high heat used when it is being formed. When boron steel is damaged in a collision, work hardening makes it too brittle to be restored to its original state. Attempts to straighten a boron steel part will usually result in a cracked part.
There is no special training, special equipment or magic that makes boron steel repairable and maintain its strength.
Attempts to straighten a boron steel part will usually result in a cracked part. The use of heat may allow the part to be straightened without cracking, but heat destroys the strength of the part. The only solution is to replace the part. That same heating process doesn't allow boron steel to be galvanized.

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[CMYSIX]

The Ford Maverick , that you own DOES NOT have a Traditional frame. it is a UNIBOBODY constructed vehicle, I don't care WHOSE eyes you use you can't tell until you put it on a laser frame machine.

 

[Cancunbadlands]

It appears " Vik" bought a totaled Maverick from co-part, thinking it was an easy rebuild. And had no idea that boron steel cannot be heated and straightened or unbent without it becoming brittle.
Oopsie.

#Gosh better sell it right away

 

[Cancunbadlands]

Hey Bud, this could be fun for you. I bought it online since am from rural grand forks and there aint no COpart. So, i saw this online and tried my due diligence, but couldnt see this in person for sure as this was in MN. Having said that, if you hvae a good suggestion as to how can this be fixed. I wiuld appreciate thta.

I don't see no way to fix that, it's totaled. I'm sorry

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

I don't see no way to fix that, it's totaled. I'm sorry

Can it be totaled twice?

 

[MaverickDragon]

Since it's a relatively new vehicle, has already been purchased, and is unlikely to be economically repaired without some substantial risk, I'm wondering if it may be worth more as the sum of it's parts than as a repairable vehicle.

Selling a nearly new hybrid engine/powertrain, hybrid battery, XLT interior and electronics and lots of body parts forward of the rear end damage might add up to a good chunk of the investment, if not exceeding it.

While the vehicle if repaired is still a salvage, the undamaged parts are not.

Just a thought I haven't seen expressed yet in this sad tale, and likely a better alternative to junkyard prices.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Seeing as how "Vik" lives in rural Grand Forks North Dakota. It's not like he's going to have customers just dropping by to pick up parts.
Which means shipping and supplies, i.e. proper packaging. Check the prices on Uline for supplies.
Add to that time spent photographing each part, advertising each part, researching and finding competitive prices.
He has to compete with scrap yards that already have established accounts on eBay.
Don't forget the cost of returns if you accidentally sent the wrong part, it will happen.
Or a part gets damaged in shipping good example is this here. This is the 400 watt inverter located under the console.

How well do you pack this while still maintaining a competitive price with those that are listed on eBay?

Because it's easy to say. People talk about buying back a wreck from the insurance company and then parting it out.

 

[LSchicago]

You really didn't know? It's cooked.

 

[DS_Ohio]

...legend has it this very same Maverick was a test mule for a hitch mounted hauler for a Cricket RX5 Golf Cart

 

[MavStangVa]

Hey Bud, this could be fun for you. I bought it online since am from rural grand forks and there aint no COpart. So, i saw this online and tried my due diligence, but couldnt see this in person for sure as this was in MN. Having said that, if you hvae a good suggestion as to how can this be fixed. I wiuld appreciate thta.

Vik,
First let me say I'm sorry about the realization that you bought a totaled vehicle. And I understand some of our comments may seem cruel so again I am sorry for that. Not sure of your age but here is what this old man learned a long time ago.
1. If it seems to good of a deal to be true then it probably isn't true.
2. Before buying online sight unseen weigh if I am willing to flush that amount of money down the toilet.
3. If it is being sold by a junkyard when it is under 2 years old then it was not repairable for a reasonable amount in the insurance eyes.
4. Don't take any wooden nickels.
You are correct that CoPart will NOT buy it back since they never owned it. They simply sold it for the insurance company. There site clearly says sales are final except if the vehicle is stolen.

 

[Timothyd]

Yes. The frame rails are bent.

But don't trust me, trust the professionals who told you already....twice.

Sometimes the "professionals" speak from greed and it's in their best interests to generate more work for themselves and jack up the insurance pay out. You have to sometimes make a judgment call.

 

[MaverickDragon]

Seeing as how "Vik" lives in rural Grand Forks North Dakota. It's not like he's going to have customers just dropping by to pick up parts.

All good points Glen.
What's your suggestion to the OP other than he should not have made the purchase?

My suggestion is to attempt to get something out of a bad situation, not that it was an ideal money making alternative.

There is a Ford dealer in Grand Forks, so there may be more than a few Mavericks rolling around out there. In any case, for a given part, he only needs a single buyer.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

All good points Glen.
What's your suggestion to the OP other than he should not have made the purchase?

My suggestion is to attempt to get something out of a bad situation, not that it was an ideal money making alternative.

Hindsight is 20/20
We'll start with the obvious it's a total vehicle. Economically there's no way to untotal it. It will always have a Scarlet salvage title. "Vik" said, he sent pictures to two body shops and they told him it was totaled. He already knew that more than likely, they didn't want to take the job on, because it would cost more than the value of a new truck or close to it.
Parting it out is a huge pain in the ass. Removing each individual part you need to sell. Cataloging it so that you can keep track of what's been sold. Marketing, pictures, buying shipping supplies the cost of postage/shipping.
Large items like the drivetrain. Professional shops want to buy from a reputable source.
At this point he may look at having a salvage yard buy it from him. Will he recover his 14,000 pretty doubtful.

 

[710-oil-614]

All good points Glen.
What's your suggestion to the OP other than he should not have made the purchase?

My suggestion is to attempt to get something out of a bad situation, not that it was an ideal money making alternative.

There is a Ford dealer in Grand Forks, so there may be more than a few Mavericks rolling around out there. In any case, for a given part, he only needs a single buyer.

My suggestion would be to list it on Copart and recoup what he can and then walk away.

 

[MaverickDragon]

Selling it as salvage is a quick and easy way to lose a lot of money fast.

Although some may consider a part out a pain, others do it for a decent living.
No idea of the OP's proclivity or circumstances.

Another option might be to sell it as is to someone who might either have the same idea that it can be repaired, or someone who is in a position to part it out.

Hopefully he can get back a good portion of that $14K investment, and quite likely a lot more than he can hope to get by going the salvage yard route. He should likely explore all options.

It appears that North Dakota requires a return to "roadworthy" condition and an inspection of the work performed to get it back to that state. No idea how thorough that would be.

This whole episode reminds me of a statement made by a TV judge that was in a foreign language, but in English translates to: "There is nothing as expensive as the cheap".

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