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I wish people who think they know it all would leave those of us who actually do alone.
lol...I'm just hoping for the day when I'm right more than I'm wrong.... 😂😛 (wifey says it's unlikely...😜)
 

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I know.
I wish people who think they know it all would leave those of us who actually do alone.
What if I told you that you could creep to 60 mph as slowly as you wish, without requiring a special BEV?
 

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Because all massive and heavy EVs are selling like shit, even ones that look really nice like the Rivian r1t which is arguably the best looking truck on sale right now. Affordable EVs sell really well, expensive ones don't. That's why Ford is pivoting.

The issue with the SC was the reliability relative to the maverick, the DC transmission was shit amongst other things. But on top of that, it was more expensive, and didn't have a hybrid option. It was a case of paying more to get half the fuel economy, and your choices are buying from the truck king brand who has a great reputation for making solid trucks, or Hyundai who has no credibility in the truck market.

There were a lot of things beyond styling that worked against the SC. I actually thought it looked ok, it was everything else that was a turn off.
The “ looked ok“ part to me was “looked ok if you liked Suburu Brat/Baja”. I did like those so I would agree even if that was not what I was looking for at this time. Thus it was mostly the lack of hybrid that kept me from even going to the lot for a looksee. The 5k tow was of interest but for that crappy fuel mileage I would have preferred a Ranger or maybe a Ridgeline.
 
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Percent of new vehicle sales in U.S. that are full EV? 7.9%

Percent of all vehicles currently on the road in the U.S. that are full EV? 2.1%.

2.1% used 0.3% of all power generated.

100% EV use (never going to happen) would use about 14.4% of all power generated.

USA generating capacity today is
1300 GW while peak use is 759 GW.

759/1300 = running at 58% load.
On the hottest day in July.

Well distributed is there room for cars to pull 14% more juice? YES.
Good info, then no problem? At least at that level. Problem is not EV’s per se, it’s the AI growing Data Centers, hard to grow transmission lines, fighting against renewable energy yet propping up coal. Etc. Problems are contributing to my electric bill going up before plugging in an EV (didn’t see much change w just a phev). I tend to see the solution for me is solar w ability to use my own generation vs feeding grid, combined w BEV and bypassing as much of the issues whatever they may be. (other than initial cost). I can’t really do that at current house w both a roof that faces wrong way and shade, so all that for “the next place” and I will just get by until then w 2nd best solutions that may or may not include trading the hybrid out.
 

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Looks to heavily rely on low wind drag. Great if you ad nothing to you vehicle. BUT for people like me who have a kayak on the roof most of the spring summer and fall season its a no go. I doubt it will go 100 miles with a kayak on the roof. Yet I still get great MPG in my Mav. . The key stay under 60 mph.

Well for most who don't ad things to cause drag it might be okay. Forget any towing. Range would be really low. I have heard a 51 kw battery, if that holds true it wont be long range at all. My guess RATED 200. Real world 150 under perfect conditions unless you like to push your luck and take it till amost empty. . I will take my hybrid mav to 1/8 tank no lower and that still leaves me with at least 65 miles and gas is easy to find and fill. EV not so much.

I was hoping for some real prototype pictures I guess not yet.
Proof will be in the pudding but I think you are more right than wrong, I would like 5ktow for a 22’ boat, not sure that will be feasible or if so that the distance will be good enough- this is why the phev/rhev is still what I view as most feasible. This was great tech in my Volt but when others apply it (like Jeep 4xe) they get both lower EV only range (20 miles vs 40) and the mpg after that 20 miles was no better than the ICE. So unless someone does better not sure(keep fingers crossed for Scout, RamCharger, Lightning 2.0, but I was hoping for a Maverick size Rhev w 5k tow and slightly larger bed.
 

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Good info, then no problem? At least at that level. Problem is not EV’s per se, it’s the AI growing Data Centers, hard to grow transmission lines, fighting against renewable energy yet propping up coal. Etc. Problems are contributing to my electric bill going up before plugging in an EV (didn’t see much change w just a phev). I tend to see the solution for me is solar w ability to use my own generation vs feeding grid, combined w BEV and bypassing as much of the issues whatever they may be. (other than initial cost). I can’t really do that at current house w both a roof that faces wrong way and shade, so all that for “the next place” and I will just get by until then w 2nd best solutions that may or may not include trading the hybrid out.
I think you are on the right track.

I always say you CAN produce your own electricity. If you wanted. With pretty simple equipment. Be it solar, wind, a paddle wheel, or any combination.

It's not really possible to make your own gasoline. You CAN make your own ethanol. But I think the Federal Government limits you to something like 20 gallons per month. Not practical. It's messy. And takes a lot of equipment and constant attention.
 

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25% fewer fasteners.

So more pop in & break on pop out type holders?
Or is that still a fastener?

Or bigger chunks of assembled items that screw in as one piece from vendor, instead of multiple pieces all screwed separately?

Thinking anything on outside that can get hit and damaged - there's a replacement cost increase.
Or Structural along the same lines.

Thinking things on the inside - hmm, pop off stuff already.

Thinking mechanical system items. Oh boy.

Really trying to picture that.
Like a 1 piece air intake, filter box, connector with MAF sensor in it - straight to intake manifold?
8 hold down bolts and 4 clamps compared to 4 bolts and 1 clamp?

Oh well - that caught my eye. Whatever makes it easier for assembly probably adds cost to repair/replacement.
Just moves the headache around.


I was thinking similar thoughts as I watched the video. May streamline things on the front end of manufacturing but if you get into a fender bender then what? less ability for us to replace parts ourselves. Is that something I want to deal with?
 

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The Fast Lane Truck channel posted an article yesterday with a rendering that seems fairly close to the sketch OneAlienBoi had in post #5:

Ford Maverick Ford EV Truck & Low-Price Platform -- New Specs & Details 1771556908590-sz



Article here: https://tfltruck.com/2026/02/ford-midsize-electric-truck-uev-updates/


Personally I kinda like the picture Chops posted in post #76 better, but this one above may be closer to what Ford's doing...certainly very aerodynamic and a bit unconventional. To me it looks like a Lightning and a Santa Cruz had a baby. ;)
 

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The Fast Lane Truck channel posted an article yesterday with a rendering that seems fairly close to the sketch OneAlienBoi had in post #5:

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Article here: https://tfltruck.com/2026/02/ford-midsize-electric-truck-uev-updates/


Personally I kinda like the picture Chops posted in post #76 better, but this one above may be closer to what Ford's doing...certainly very aerodynamic and a bit unconventional. To me it looks like a Lightning and a Santa Cruz had a baby. ;)
If that’s what it ends up being, then hard pass for me. That’s ugly. Looks like an original Honda ridgeline and cyber truck had a really ugly baby 😂
 
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The Fast Lane Truck channel posted an article yesterday with a rendering that seems fairly close to the sketch OneAlienBoi had in post #5:
Article here: https://tfltruck.com/2026/02/ford-midsize-electric-truck-uev-updates/
Personally I kinda like the picture Chops posted in post #76 better, but this one above may be closer to what Ford's doing...certainly very aerodynamic and a bit unconventional. To me it looks like a Lightning and a Santa Cruz had a baby. ;)
lol.... no, not even close. Ford has stated very clearly it will look like a conventional Ford truck. This is not the time for a design experiment.
 

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lol.... no, not even close. Ford has stated very clearly it will look like a conventional Ford truck. This is not the time for a design experiment.
Yes I hope you're right. The "aero" design studies are interesting but when it comes to actually buying something I would (and did) want to put my money on something that decently echoes the "3 box" design and traditional Ford styling cues. We'll see.
 

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With electric rates approaching fifty cents per kw here in California , people should do the math before buying a EV .
I bought my first batch of rooftop solar panels over 15 years ago , added a second batch after that , I produce as much as I consume annually .
But it's a battle , the power companies are constantly changing " the rules " and are chipping away at the advantage of owning solar generation .
Our governor hand picks the board that oversees the public utilities ...not good ...should be selected by the public !
 

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Just IMO that looks terrible and nothing like the actual vehicle that will be produced.
I agree. Fugly.
To me, it looks like a cross between a touch tone Princess telephone (I’m old enough to remember those) and a credit card chip reader because of the slot on the front.
 

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The Fast Lane Truck channel posted an article yesterday with a rendering that seems fairly close to the sketch OneAlienBoi had in post #5:

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Article here: https://tfltruck.com/2026/02/ford-midsize-electric-truck-uev-updates/


Personally I kinda like the picture Chops posted in post #76 better, but this one above may be closer to what Ford's doing...certainly very aerodynamic and a bit unconventional. To me it looks like a Lightning and a Santa Cruz had a baby. ;)
Nice, I will say I don't believe that's the final design they'll go with, I included a series of sketches in post #53 that I believe are a lot closer to the final design. If it stuck to that, it would still be sporty, and fitting of the ranchero name, but it would be a lot more conventional than this sketch.

I understand why this sketch is polarizing to some people, but all bold designs are. Almost every time a designer tries something new, people hate it at first. The reason I like it is it's fun, unique, expressive, and those are attributes I want to see applied to more affordable and fun cars. I want designers pushing the limits again, even if it means it doesn't appeal to everyone.

I personally believe a good approach for Ford would to be retaining the more traditional, timeless, and restrained stying for their gas models like mustang, bronco, and so on, but pushing the futuristic look with their EVs more so you appeal to both camps. You have the people who want restrained styling, and those who like futuristic styling, Ford could appeal to both.
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