First Oil Change at 10,000 Miles w/ Photo

[Chops]

Yep just takes a quick search to find mine. I used to be an oil is cheap guy. But started testing my oil to back up my assumption. Both I was proven wrong.
I went to 0 percent oil after an almost perfect balance of my driving. Even at 0 percent oil life left my reports came back fine with a recommendation to go 2k miles more.
only way to really know is to test.

I plan to test mine every 6 or 12 months - per the oil change interval stated in the Ford power train warranty fine print.

If the “go longer” Oil Testing Co will warranty my engine after Ford refuses based on their GPS tracking - cool

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[todd92]

I change my blinker fluid every 3,000 miles. Ford says it's lifetime. They don't care what happens to your rig after the warranty is up! Plus they get credits from the EPA for recommending lifetime changes. Nothing is too good for my baby plus I get peace of mind!

 

[Chops]

I change my blinker fluid every 3,000 miles. Ford says it's lifetime.

The exception that proves the rule?

 

[Kenv24]

I change my blinker fluid every 3,000 miles. Ford says it's lifetime. They don't care what happens to your rig after the warranty is up! Plus they get credits from the EPA for recommending lifetime changes. Nothing is too good for my baby plus I get peace of mind!

Todd…. you must have an older Ford because since 2020 Ford stopped using blinker fluid and they use an under frame solar battery to power the blinkers. If you notice your blinkers are blinking a little slow just plug it in for the night. and you should be good for the whole next week. The new system is called the Fuckit…Ford Under Carriage Kinetic Interface Trickle. Powers just the blinkers when needed. Now if your third brake light goes out, you’re gonna need a loaner…..

 

[Snox801]

I plan to test mine every 6 or 12 months - per the oil change interval stated in the Ford power train warranty fine print.

If the “go longer” Oil Testing Co will warranty my engine after Ford refuses based on their GPS tracking - cool

Well if you change it based on olm system they will warranty it. I still change mine at 0-5 percent life. But I have another 2.0 that’s pushing 300k of tuned e30. That gets run to zero.
To me the warranty goes away so fast I don’t care.

 

[JBL14]

"Car Wizard" on YouTube says, "basically all auto manufactures are building cars and setting maintenance schedule to reach the 100,000 mile warranty mark and then who cares." (paraphrasing)

I personally want my vehicles to reach 250,000 - 300,000 miles.
I have opened the valve covers on some of my cars over 200,000 and I could eat off of the clean metal.
IMO go with 5000 mile changes full synthetic.

 

[Cherokee]

What is Dunning -Kruger affect? I would care to learn.

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias that describes the tendency for people with low ability in a specific area to overestimate their competence. It's named after psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, who coined the term in 1999. The effect can also manifest as highly skilled people underestimating their abilities compared to others.

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[jcofthewest]

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias that describes the tendency for people with low ability in a specific area to overestimate their competence. It's named after psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, who coined the term in 1999. The effect can also manifest as highly skilled people underestimating their abilities compared to others.

In Knowledge and wisdom we find Power

Thanks for that bit of education. I often find myself in quite the opposite mindset.
Thankfully, God looks out for drunks and fools.

 

[Snox801]

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias that describes the tendency for people with low ability in a specific area to overestimate their competence. It's named after psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, who coined the term in 1999. The effect can also manifest as highly skilled people underestimating their abilities compared to others.

In Knowledge and wisdom we find Power

Another way it’s been put is the people with lower knowledge of a subject think they have a vastly better understanding than they do. Mainly because they as people learn and get into the expert area of a subject they tend to realize the more they learn about a subj

I plan to test mine every 6 or 12 months - per the oil change interval stated in the Ford power train warranty fine print.

If the “go longer” Oil Testing Co will warranty my engine after Ford refuses based on their GPS tracking - cool

My last oil analysis was kinda worst case scenarios. On purpose ran to zero and came back fine. Ford would not deny the claim based on fine print. The olm does a pretty good job of adjusting the mileage as you go. I would bet if every single mile you tracked met the “fine print” for intervals the olm would probably match up.

Second the oil analysis won’t cover the engine for that. But most oil companies would. Amsoil has and I know others have a warranty. Would be hard for ford to fight the warranty when you have data “expert whiteness” on your side saying the failure was not oil related.
Changing early doesn’t hurt but not sure it will extend life either.

 

[Cherokee]

Oil analysis, all that fussing and doing. No thanks. All this oil debate noise.
I have a great Ford dealer, I let them handle everything.
All my Fords, one sold at 350,000 running great and one with 167,000, another sold running like new with 145,000
Never a single engine problem running Motorcraft oil and filters.

That’s all the analysis I need.

 

[ZABSMAV]

Oil analysis, all that fussing and doing. No thanks. All this oil debate noise.
I have a great Ford dealer, I let them handle everything.
All my Fords, one sold at 350,000 running great and one with 167,000, another sold running like new with 145,000
Never a single engine problem running Motorcraft oil and filters.

That’s all the analysis I need.

You'll never convince those sold on spending the same money for "special oil analysis" as just doing regular 5,000 mile oil change intervals.

Also, you'll never convince those who are part of the Amsoil cult that somehow a multi-level marketing company is going to warranty someone's engine when it goes bad. You'd have to prove their oil caused it. Good luck with that one.

I'm done on this thread.

We'll continue to be prudent and follow the manufacturer's recommendations for frequency of oil changes in severe use, which is half of the 10,000 miles and be done with it.

Others who choose otherwise probably won't be keeping their Mavericks that long anyway and will just pass their problems onto a new owner.

 

[Chops]

You'll never convince those sold on spending the same money for "special oil analysis" as just doing regular 5,000 mile oil change intervals.

Also, you'll never convince those who are part of the Amsoil cult that somehow a multi-level marketing company is going to warranty someone's engine when it goes bad. You'd have to prove their oil caused it. Good luck with that one.

I'm done on this thread.

We'll continue to be prudent and follow the manufacturer's recommendations for frequency of oil changes in severe use, which is half of the 10,000 miles and be done with it.

Others who choose otherwise probably won't be keeping their Mavericks that long anyway and will just pass their problems onto a new owner.

I’ve never had an oil test done & just follow the MFG’s - which is severe/5000mi. I’m retired & enjoy changing the oil/filter myself. Saves money & lets me talk to my truck

Whoever drives my truck when I’m done with it will have a good foundation for a “survivor” truck!

 

[basicUse]

I can see both schools of thought. On one hand, oil is actually just better than it used to be, full stop. 25 years ago, synthetics weren't really the standard yet. On the other hand, GDI turbo motors are still hard on oil (fuel and carbon dilution). So it really depends on your usage. 10k is perfectly fine for most people driving normally. 7500 is fine for harder use, and I'd really only do 5000 mile changes if you're either really anal or really beating on it. Ultimately, get an analysis and see where you're at, or just follow the maintenance minder and don't think about it.

I'm camp anal so I still do 5000 miles, but I'm okay with wasting a few bucks.

It depends on the engine too. Some engines have way more fuel dilution and pre ignition detention. Then their is a matter of where you get oil tested, only a few labs do full oil analysis, most labs do a diesel truck level oil analysis, that does not tell the whole story. Honestly, the rabbit hole never ends. for turbo engines personally I think 10k is horrible, then their some people who also run them at 87 octane , + 9,000 miles engine oil, yeah engine knock. but if people don't keep that engine for 100-150k miles than it doesn't really matter i guess...

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