OEM tires didn't last

[zen_]

I've heard people say you'll get better Mileage with the Factory tires that's why the Tread Depth isn't as deep as other Tires. The Manufactures do that for better Mileage Ratings. My Dad had i forget what Original Tires on his 2005 Ford Five Hundred. But he switched to IIRC BFG Tires of the same size and lost like 2 mpg in Fuel Mileage.

Rolling resistance of tires is mostly dictated by the tire compound and pressure.

I race bikes (the pedal kind) competitively and the rolling resistance of tires + optimum tire pressure has become a pretty big deal in the past 10 years, often in ways that seem counterintuitive. Larger tires at lower pressure roll faster than small tires at high pressure in the real world, and smooth tires don't always roll faster than tires with knobs. There are fairly scientific sites just to test the rolling resistance of tires, and calculate the optimum tire pressure.

I only mention all that because rolling resistance and tire pressure also affects car tires, and I am honestly kinda surprised there's not an all in one site to test the rolling resistance of consumer car tires, and help people understand what the best pressure is for the right balance of handling / ride / MPG. When you consider all the crazy things manufacturers do just to eek out a fraction of a MPG for the EPA, it's kinda crazy to turn around and potentially throw away 10% or more of your fuel economy on the wrong tire setup.

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[ryanjo]

My 2024 Lariat has 18” Michelin Primacy, treadwear 540, with good tread after 5000 miles. Why does ford use different brand tires?

 

[SafetyGuy]

My 2024 Lariat has 18” Michelin Primacy, treadwear 540, with good tread after 5000 miles. Why does ford use different brand tires?
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Good question...

My Suppositions

Ford puts on what manufacturers have available in bulk,

Next, which is cheapest at the time of contract,

Temperature rating/speed rating, higher temperature handling tires in hotter/higher speed areas (A), and not so focused on dissipating heat tires in not as hot/speed limited more areas (B,C)?

Just a few thoughts,

Andy

 

[ScottyC]

Continental tires are just General Tires with that fancy name.

PS: I am old enough to remember when Fords ONLY came with Firestones from the factory.

 

[SafetyGuy]

Continental tires are just General Tires with that fancy name.

PS: I am old enough to remember when Fords ONLY came with Firestones from the factory.

Yeah, that was a nasty break up after the Explorer roll overs were running rampant.

Andy

 

[ScottyC]

Yeah, that was a nasty break up after the Explorer roll overs were running rampant.

Andy

Yep...Ford blamed Firestone and Firestone blamed Ford.

 

[Jaackil]

I have a 2023 XLT hybrid delivered August 2023. with the CONTINENTAL PROCONTACT TX 225-65-17/ I have just over 17 K miles. I also have another set of wheels with blizzak snows. So for two winters used those. Yet my tires MIGHT make it to end of this summer. So maybe 11 K miles on the oem tires. .

Anyone else have this bad a result??? I drive slow too.

My previous vehicle was a 2020 ecosport I sold just under 3 years 28K miles and the tires were about the same as mine are on maverick. BUT that had 28K BUT also had snows for the Ecosport too for winter. So the Mav oem tires REALLY are BAD.

Is it just me???

I think I will get Hankook Kinergy PT tires next. ........... 90 K warranty If I get 60 K I will be happy.

2023 Hybrid XL with Conti’s
Just replaced the originals at 48,000. They still had some life in them(maybe another 5,000). Obviously I do a lot of driving so it’s important to keep good sneakers on it. I replaced them with the exact same conti’s. I’ve always run conti’s on my cars and never had wear problems. Including my BMW’s that I do not baby. One thing I do faithfully is rotate them every 10,000 miles and keep them inflated to 35lbs My driving is probably about 50/50 Hyw/Cty with some pulling a trailer. The reason I stayed with the conti’s is good balance of price, low noise, grip in all weather, wear, and gas mileage. I average 48mpg summer and 42 mpg in winter. I haven’t had a need for snows yet as we haven’t had a lot of snow in Mass the last couple of years.
I do believe the stock conti’s are a crap shoot. I think they can be a lower grade than the ones available retail. I also think driving habits rotation and inflation have a lot to do with tire wear. Just my experience.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

My 2024 Lariat has 18” Michelin Primacy, treadwear 540, with good tread after 5000 miles. Why does ford use different brand tires?

Primarily due to scheduling issues getting thousands of tires made to custom specs. Tread depth, pattern, compound, lighter weight, type of belt, etc are different for each OEM. In 2022 the Primacy was made in size 225/60/r18 (probably in 50k+ volume). The OEM version at the time was a 45k tire and the after market version in that size was in different specs and was a 55K tire. The 225/60/r18 Ford OEM and Toyota could be mixed in a set but the other OEM versions were not recommended if a single tire was damaged. YES you can order replacements by OEM specs. Ford engineers get paid for ordering the best tire that works on their designed vehicle.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Yeah, that was a nasty break up after the Explorer roll overs were running rampant.

Andy

One time I was driving on I-40 in New Mexico on the first day of Deer Season in bumper to bumper when the 3rd car in front of me flipped and rolled at 70+ mph. The consensus was that the station wagon had taken a bullet in the driver's side rear. The first emergency responder on scene was Game Warden!

 

[Bradley]

I have a 2023 XLT hybrid delivered August 2023. with the CONTINENTAL PROCONTACT TX 225-65-17/ I have just over 17 K miles. I also have another set of wheels with blizzak snows. So for two winters used those. Yet my tires MIGHT make it to end of this summer. So maybe 11 K miles on the oem tires. .

Anyone else have this bad a result??? I drive slow too.

My previous vehicle was a 2020 ecosport I sold just under 3 years 28K miles and the tires were about the same as mine are on maverick. BUT that had 28K BUT also had snows for the Ecosport too for winter. So the Mav oem tires REALLY are BAD.

Is it just me???

I think I will get Hankook Kinergy PT tires next. ........... 90 K warranty If I get 60 K I will be happy.

Interesting. Continental tires are usually good tires. However, my F150 King Ranch came with Goodyear Wranglers and they have been excellent tires. When I have to replace the tires on the Maverick, I'll probably get Goodyears.

 

[SafetyGuy]

One time I was driving on I-40 in New Mexico on the first day of Deer Season in bumper to bumper when the 3rd car in front of me flipped and rolled at 70+ mph. The consensus was that the station wagon had taken a bullet in the driver's side rear. The first emergency responder on scene was Game Warden!

I hear you...Yikes!

We had a guy we talked to just before deer season opened, back in about 1980...we saw him again the next day, leaving the area...With a fresh high power bullet hole just above his head/door frame, over the driver's door of his F150. 308/7.62 mm, we guessed.

I really, really, intensely dislike those with poor muzzle control.

They just don't look to see what is behind what they are shooting at...just as bad as sound-shooters.

>8-[

Gotta work on that grumpy face...

Andy

 

[Bigbw]

Good pick up on the difference!

Yes, my tires do have a bit different molding to make them look a bit better without getting all silly. We have a Road-Runner truck...sounds like a good nick-name for it!

I checked and Goodyear in Canada here has the same highway tire look about it, not like ours.

I am sure all else should be the same. The rating is the same as well.

And now I know what UTQG stands for, bonus!

I know so far, I would get these tires again...but have also been considering getting All-Weather tires, when these are due for change. Things to mull over...Winter Is Coming...insert menacing "Jaws" 2-note sound here...

Have a good one,

Andy

Goodyear makes three versions of the Territory, AT, HT and MT, all look a little different. I got a sidewall puncture in one of mine, I will be replacing it with a new one, so I will have 3 OEMs from Ford and one non OEM from Goodyear.. I only have 3500 miles on the Mav so should not be an issue..

 

[fozcycle]

I gave Michelins on my ‘21 Bronco Sport now with 27k on them and on my ‘22 Maverick Lariat with 31k on them. Same tire on both……plenty of tread left with even wear.

 

[rarabama16]

I have 6/32" on my 23 hybrid XLT at 19,030 OEM Continentals.
They certainly did not start out at 10/32"
I don't expect to get much more than a year's worth of wear on them.

I have a 2023 XLT hybrid delivered August 2023. with the CONTINENTAL PROCONTACT TX 225-65-17/ I have just over 17 K miles. I also have another set of wheels with blizzak snows. So for two winters used those. Yet my tires MIGHT make it to end of this summer. So maybe 11 K miles on the oem tires. .

Anyone else have this bad a result??? I drive slow too.

My previous vehicle was a 2020 ecosport I sold just under 3 years 28K miles and the tires were about the same as mine are on maverick. BUT that had 28K BUT also had snows for the Ecosport too for winter. So the Mav oem tires REALLY are BAD.

Is it just me???

I think I will get Hankook Kinergy PT tires next. ........... 90 K warranty If I get 60 K I will be happy.

Got my ‘25 XLT in January, and have 14k on the truck/tires. I’m not seeing any significant wear on mine. That said, when it’s time to replace them I’ll likely go with something quieter/longer warranty to improve the highway drive experience.

 

[Ozarkbeard]

If you're interested in where tires are made, here's a site that 'splains that. https://www.utires.com/articles/tir...Ez5L0cY3J4pD-G1DljUCfeb8rkQpQciJsVlmrBqG_HreQ

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