Will UAW Strike affect Maverick production / delivery?

[LTW]

Yes. The production lines at Hermosillo should keep humming along without issue. The UAW strike is about as bothersome to them as a cloudy day. The wrinkle occurs when you look at logistics-parts delivery and product delivery. The Teamsters and Rail Workers will honor the work stoppages of other unions, and they’re permitted this per their respective contractural rights (at least they used to be). That is where things can get pretty messy-logistics. No parts arriving to build the vehicles and impediments on getting the vehicles delivered to their destinations.

The big three should always have ALWAYS have a contingency plan on how to deal with work stoppages/ strikes. It’s part of their respective business. They deal with the UAW day every day.

The UAW has telegraphed their demands and have been pretty forthcoming about it. They have struck at the deadline, which they have asserted all along. No surprise.

Our hopes are that Ford (and GM and Stellantis) have planned for this and have contingency plans in place.

Have they? I would certainly hope so.

But since I haven’t received an order confirmation on my Maverick after two weeks, I’m not overl optimistic.

I understand how this thread can so easily spin off into discussions about the strike itself, the balances between the interests of corporations, shareholders, and unions. And whatnot. But I'm watching the thread because I want to know how the UAW Strike may affect my Maverick order.

Hi. The strike would adversely affect the delivery of your vehicle due to transportation and logistics issues. As can be observed in several other posts, the vehicles have been built for several weeks and are still sitting in limbo somewhere between Hermosillo and their destination. The UAW strike isn’t going to help that situation. Teamsters and Rail Worker unions will sympathize with the UAW strike and further disrupt transportation of materials necessary to build new vehicles, as well as the delivery of new vehicles. Hopefully there is a contingency of non-union transportation workers and truck drivers awaiting the call.

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[Kagiso]

Hi. The strike would adversely affect the delivery of your vehicle due to transportation and logistics issues. As can be observed in several other posts, the vehicles have been built for several weeks and are still sitting in limbo somewhere between Hermosillo and their destination. The UAW strike isn’t going to help that situation. Teamsters and Rail Worker unions will sympathize with the UAW strike and further disrupt transportation of materials necessary to build new vehicles, as well as the delivery of new vehicles. Hopefully there is a contingency of non-union transportation workers and truck drivers awaiting the call.

Hello. Thanks for your pertinent, helpful reply. My XL Ecoboost (AWD, 4K towing pkg, Co-Pilot 360) is scheduled for production week of 16 October. Issues with delivery pre-strike are perplexing & potentially discouraging. (I don't want to be discouraged! : ) Here's hoping for corrections & contingencies.

 

[LTW]

The big three should always have ALWAYS have a contingency plan on how to deal with work stoppages/ strikes. It’s part of their respective business. They deal with the UAW day every day.

The UAW has telegraphed their demands and have been pretty forthcoming about it. They have struck at the deadline, which they have asserted all along. No surprise.

Our hopes are that Ford (and GM and Stellantis) have planned for this and have contingency plans in place.

Have they? I would certainly hope so.

But since I haven’t received an order confirmation on my Maverick after two weeks, I’m not overl optimistic.


Hi. The strike would adversely affect the delivery of your vehicle due to transportation and logistics issues. As can be observed in several other posts, the vehicles have been built for several weeks and are still sitting in limbo somewhere between Hermosillo and their destination. The UAW strike isn’t going to help that situation. Teamsters and Rail Worker unions will sympathize with the UAW strike and further disrupt transportation of materials necessary to build new vehicles, as well as the delivery of new vehicles. Hopefully there is a contingency of non-union transportation workers and truck drivers awaiting the call.

Roger that, my friend. I wish you the best, amigo. Hopefully you get your new baby sooner rather than later.

 

[Maverick Rich]

Thank you. Corporations, not just auto, are raking record profits while American workers are just getting by.
At the same time Ford's CEO is getting regular massive raises while his management failures have cost Ford millions, halved it's stock price and led to a 30% car price increase over the past 4 years.

Not just Ford, all car and truck manufacturers prices have gone up roughly 30% over the last 4 years, partially because of inflation and the rest is the cost of losing money building EV's that are a hard sell for most dealers...most folks don't want an EV...too expensive, short range and limited time consuming charging stations....plus more than few have caught fire...SCARY!!! The requirement to build EV's as essentially mandated by the EPA by increasing MPG edicts plus requiring lower emissions is costing car/truck makers billions of dollars and that cost is increasing every year as many states have adopted California's edict to dealers that they can't sell new ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicles after 2035. I suspect the "massive profits" some have referred to will be needed by car/truck makers to stay solvent over the next decade as the EPA efforts to bankrupt any car/truck maker that won't stop building ICE powered vehicles.

 

[Superdog3657]

It is a fallacy to think that it is not passed on to the consumers. Always.

Thats the way it works, every where not just automotive. It's a domino effect this it what c

I work for a supplier and most suppliers likely will shutdown but not because they are union, but because ford doesn't order parts if they aren't building. This day and age everything is "just in time" meaning they only order for the forecast of the next 120 days. The catch is, as soon as they stop building they will drop orders and we will get laid off. Only positive is being non union we are laid off and qualify for unemployment for what it's worth.

I worked for tier 1 suppliers for Ford both union and non union. Most suppliers under contract with Ford are expected to supply the parts cheaper over the life of the contract, while Ford has the luxury of raising price of what they produce. So the suppliers have to produce the parts more efficiently to make a profit, which in my experience means doing more with less . The hourly workers get pay raises sure ,but the company may reconfigure the assembly process reducing hours and or sometimes the number of workers.

 

[fossil]

Not just Ford, all car and truck manufacturers prices have gone up roughly 30% over the last 4 years, partially because of inflation and the rest is the cost of losing money building EV's that are a hard sell for most dealers...most folks don't want an EV...too expensive, short range and limited time consuming charging stations....plus more than few have caught fire...SCARY!!! The requirement to build EV's as essentially mandated by the EPA by increasing MPG edicts plus requiring lower emissions is costing car/truck makers billions of dollars and that cost is increasing every year as many states have adopted California's edict to dealers that they can't sell new ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicles after 2035. I suspect the "massive profits" some have referred to will be needed by car/truck makers to stay solvent over the next decade as the EPA efforts to bankrupt any car/truck maker that won't stop building ICE powered vehicles.

Well we don't want to parrot their inflated EV losses too much since most of that loss is in building 3 new factories and will be totally factored against the few corp taxes they still pay for the next decade. At worse it might slow their stock buy back program and give them cover for shorting stock owners dividends. Ford, as we know is no longer family owned but still family controlled.

As for California, no offense to them but they elected their gov and are on their own to resolve that to THEIR satisfaction not anyone else's. It's not for us to interfere in their business or any other state's business/rights, that's not America. If our states jump on that band wagon it's on us to own.

 

[Grabber Rick]

No rush. No worries.

If it takes a month longer, that only means your Financials will be in a little better place.

Don't need to temp the union people to intentionally make mistakes and defects to "teach Ford a lesson." I don't need to interfere with their squabbles. I'd rather have a good vehicle with a little wait than a defected one without a wait.

True more time to save money. I want to get my Maverick before crappy weather hits. I want to get rustproofing and undercoating applied before salt and calcium chloride is dumped on Pa. roads. I also want to get PPF installed also. Have to get decals applied before ceramic coatings are applied too. If deliveries are delayed it will change things for a lot of people. The longer you have to wait to get coatings applied the more it will cost because paint correction will be needed if you have to use your vehicle longer before getting it applied.

 

[Ranch]

As for California, no offense to them but they elected their gov and are on their own to resolve that to THEIR satisfaction not anyone else's. It's not for us to interfere in their business or any other state's business/rights, that's not America. If our states jump on that band wagon it's on us to own.

The Supreme Court recently ruled that California can dictate how Iowa pork producers run their farms. That means that California can legally interfere with out of state business's.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...enge-to-california-law-gestation/70207838007/

 

[fossil]

The Supreme Court recently ruled that California can dictate how Iowa pork producers run their farms. That means that California can legally interfere with out of state business's.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...enge-to-california-law-gestation/70207838007/

Actually they ruled that Ca could control what was sold in their state just as any state can. Iowa can continue as is but sell elsewhere. Right?

 

[Ranch]

Actually they ruled that Ca could control what was sold in their state just as any state can. Iowa can continue as is but sell elsewhere. Right?

Iowa already sells elsewhere. They will take a huge financial hit no matter what they do. Either invest a lot of money to modify their farms or sell less pork by abandoning the large California market.

 

[DavidM]

The plants in Mexico aren’t UAW, however there may be an issue once the vehicle arrives in the states. The teamsters are honoring the strike and I also heard (a rumor) that the railway workers won’t be transporting the vehicles either.

My Maverick which was planned to be built on the week of Sept 11 was completed and I got an email from Ford that it's shipped! I am not sure ifthe railway worker's strike will impact delivery at this point.

 

[fossil]

Iowa already sells elsewhere. They will take a huge financial hit no matter what they do. Either invest a lot of money to modify their farms or sell less pork by abandoning the large California market.

Iowa already sells elsewhere. They will take a huge financial hit no matter what they do. Either invest a lot of money to modify their farms or sell less pork by abandoning the large California market.

the law in question

At issue is a 2018 ballot initiative known as Proposition 12 that bans the sale of pork in California unless the sow from which the butchered pig was born was housed in a pen with at least 24 square feet of floor space. that's less than 5x5ft not enough room to even turn around, boohoo for the factory farm, especially the Chinese owned ones.

again states rights are at question.

"Companies that choose to sell products in various states must normally comply with laws of those various states," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote for the majority. "While the Constitution addresses many weighty issues, the type of pork chops California merchants may sell is not on that list."

Complying with Proposition 12 could cost the $26 billion-a-year industry $290 million to $350 million, Iowa pork group says.

 

[JohnHartshorn]

I didn't read through all the posts, so this may have already been said. Right now, the strike is pretty limited in scope and will only affect those production facilities. The Maverick should not be affected at all. If the strike goes full tilt, the only way the Maverick will be affected is lack of parts being delivered as the truckers will not cross US picket lines to pick up parts to ship to Mexico.

 

[fossil]

I didn't read through all the posts, so this may have already been said. Right now, the strike is pretty limited in scope and will only affect those production facilities. The Maverick should not be affected at all. If the strike goes full tilt, the only way the Maverick will be affected is lack of parts being delivered as the truckers will not cross US picket lines to pick up parts to ship to Mexico.

Think we'd find the plants that make the larger items, engines/trans have rail lines in plant, no truckers. If they strike doesn't matter either way. If that plant is struck, no parts made.

 

[GeoJoe]

True more time to save money. I want to get my Maverick before crappy weather hits. I want to get rustproofing and undercoating applied before salt and calcium chloride is dumped on Pa. roads. I also want to get PPF installed also. Have to get decals applied before ceramic coatings are applied too. If deliveries are delayed it will change things for a lot of people. The longer you have to wait to get coatings applied the more it will cost because paint correction will be needed if you have to use your vehicle longer before getting it applied.

Just another reason I'm glad I live in the South.

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