Why do people complain about others spending 40k on a maverick?

[710-oil-614]

Oh I agree with you, and one of the few perks of waiting until now was that I could get an AWD hybrid. And yes, of course destination fees change that price. My point is simply that while I'm not happy with the pricing, there really isn't anything out there that competes, and until something does, the prices will keep going up!

It's almost like Ford is getting blamed for making the Maverick too cheap. Had they given it a starting price of $24k - which would still have been a steal in the market - would it still have the same demand as it did when they called it the $19,995 pick up? I think it probably still would have.

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[slashsnake]

I get it, 40k is a lot of money, the interior is from a $20,000 vehicle, and the lariat is just putting lipstick on a pig etc. etc.

but I'm going to list things I need in a vehicle, and try to come up with something for me.
-has a bed for dirt/mulch etc so it doesn't get in the cab. (my wife likes to garden and we have a decently big property to do work on)
-gets good gas mileage because my wife and I live outside the city and commute about 60 miles to work one way
-has a good ride quality/decent handling. I've daily driven sports cars my whole life so I have some expectation that it doesn't drive like complete crap like a "real" truck.
-leather/pleather seats for ease of cleaning. we have a dog and scrubbing mud out of cloth seats sucks ass.
-has 4-5k towing capabilities for a trailer to do home renos/dump runs etc.
-is less than $50k.
-AWD for winter driving
-is small enough to park in the city easily, good turning radius etc.

Literally, the ONLY vehicle that currently exists which fits that arbitrary list of criteria is the 2025 maverick lariat hybrid/awd. The xlt doesn't come with pleather seats, 2024 models don't come awd and hybrid, any crossover/suv isn't going to have a seperate area for dirt so it's going to end up all over the cabin. Any "real" truck is going to be too big, too fuel hungry and crap to drive.

Everyone talks like getting a ranger is some huge upgrade for a few grand more. It's a completely different class of vehicle. It's like asking why someone bought a miata when they could have bought a duramax because you can't haul 20 sheets of plywood in a miata. Like maybe the "more capable" vehicle is actually worse in the ways that matter to that person, and much more inconvenient in other ways? Anyways I'm just tired of hearing about this and wanted to get your guys thoughts.

People on the internet complain and have opinions. It's what they do. For me, I don't want a $40k Maverick and I don't think that's a great value outside of a small niche (one where you fit in). Personally, if I was spending $40k on a pickup, and it's a Maverick with all the bells and whistles or a Tacoma TRD... I'm picking the latter.

But I'm spending on a 2nd vehicle here, and for me, the XL with some features was the one that fit my budget and my needs. I live in the country so the hybrid savings are less with mostly highway miles (averaging 29 mpg combined or so over 500 miles thus far). I've got a dog cover in the back (because cleaning dog hair/mud out of any seats sucks, and I can just toss that in the washer).

But yeah, you do you.

 

[710-oil-614]

People on the internet complain and have opinions. It's what they do. For me, I don't want a $40k Maverick and I don't think that's a great value outside of a small niche (one where you fit in). Personally, if I was spending $40k on a pickup, and it's a Maverick with all the bells and whistles or a Tacoma TRD... I'm picking the latter.

But I'm spending on a 2nd vehicle here, and for me, the XL with some features was the one that fit my budget and my needs. I live in the country so the hybrid savings are less with mostly highway miles (averaging 29 mpg combined or so over 500 miles thus far). I've got a dog cover in the back (because cleaning dog hair/mud out of any seats sucks, and I can just toss that in the washer).

But yeah, you do you.

lemme know when you find a $40k trd Tacoma and I’m buying that too.

 

[colinl]

lemme know when you find a $40k trd Tacoma and I’m buying that too.

they're defeinitely out there... including the anemic v6 and 5 speed automatic, and 80K miles.

 

[710-oil-614]

they're defeinitely out there... including the anemic v6 and 5 speed automatic, and 80K miles.

Actually was shocked to see I could get a 2024 TRD Off Road for around $43k but then I realized that the same folks on here who pan the Maverick's interior haven't had a chance to look at the interior of the new Tacoma - including backseat space which is important to me and my three kids.

EDIT: Basically the TRD off road with all of the options of a Lariat AWD Hybrid that costs $39,300 will run you over $50k.

 

[slashsnake]

lemme know when you find a $40k trd Tacoma and I’m buying that too.

You can get some base Taco's in the 30's but I was talking a TRD. With the 25's coming out some high volume dealerships are getting 24 TRD's in the low 40's to move inventory before the 25's hit while they still have their rebates.

 

[710-oil-614]

You can get some base Taco's in the 30's but I was talking a TRD. With the 25's coming out some high volume dealerships are getting 24 TRD's in the low 40's to move inventory before the 25's hit while they still have their rebates.

Not interested in a sport but the TRD off roads can be had in the low 40s. That surprised me as they come with a rear locker and crawl control (awesome stuff!!)

However at $42k the interior has just as much hard touch plastics as the maverick, no power seats, cloth seats. The back seat space is a joke. You get a 7” screen, no heated seats etc.

People in here saying us Lariat orderers are paying $40k for a “$20k” truck then turn around and blow a nut for their (msrp) $48k taco with an interior rivaling the $25k maverick.

But that extra $23k and massive hit to economy (eb or hybrid) is worth every penny to look the part in your taco and show everyone how craw control can get your truck unstuck in deep snow or at the beach is well worth it.

 

[slashsnake]

Actually was shocked to see I could get a 2024 TRD Off Road for around $43k but then I realized that the same folks on here who pan the Maverick's interior haven't had a chance to look at the interior of the new Tacoma - including backseat space which is important to me and my three kids.

EDIT: Basically the TRD off road with all of the options of a Lariat AWD Hybrid that costs $39,300 will run you over $50k.

That's true but comparing apples to oranges kind of there as mine was too, just depends on preference. Yeah, I am fine with a pretty spartan interior. Just making the note that for me personally rather than a Maverick with all the extra features, at that price point in my situation I'd rather a Taco TRD.

But yes, for someone wanting those features over the different style of truck a Tacoma is or wanting the higher mpg etc, get the truck you want.

And you are right on the back seats. Also entry. I'd be fine with a taco, but when we were at a car show a few years ago of new vehicles, the only truck my wife actually liked getting in/out of was the Maverick. And even the Tacoma isn't really what she'd like sizewise for city driving. Maybe a 20 year old one lol... but up in Minnesota here finding one of those in good non-rusty condition probably costs over half of a new one.

 

[slashsnake]

Not interested in a sport but the TRD off roads can be had in the low 40s. That surprised me as they come with a rear locker and crawl control (awesome stuff!!)

However at $42k the interior has just as much hard touch plastics as the maverick, no power seats, cloth seats. The back seat space is a joke. You get a 7” screen, no heated seats etc.

People in here saying us Lariat orderers are paying $40k for a “$20k” truck then turn around and blow a nut for their (msrp) $48k taco with an interior rivaling the $25k maverick.

But that extra $23k and massive hit to economy (eb or hybrid) is worth every penny to look the part in your taco and show everyone how craw control can get your truck unstuck in deep snow or at the beach is well worth it.

Yeah that would tempt me to upgrade another step if i was still in Colorado.

And for me, I don't mind the hard plastics and manual seats. I'd take the capability over that. I like the cloth seats too with an offroad vehicle... my butt slides on leather and that stuff can get hot. Kinda old fashioned on that here I guess. I smacked a bug in a caddy on the A pillar and that was a pain cleaning that out of the cloth. Give me a washrag lol.

It all depends on what you want. I had a Jeep Rubicon and loved that thing in Colorado and Utah. No offense to heated seats and dual zone climate and fun 360 view cameras, but I'd take that capability over the bells and whistles.

And don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to yuck anyones yum here. The only thing I had to say about the poster was go for it if that meets your needs and they are right that it does, and if the seats are the only reason for the lariat, it might save some money getting seat covers for the back because that's a pretty big jump in price for that reason.

 

[710-oil-614]

That's true but comparing apples to oranges kind of there as mine was too, just depends on preference. Yeah, I am fine with a pretty spartan interior. Just making the note that for me personally rather than a Maverick with all the extra features, at that price point in my situation I'd rather a Taco TRD.

But yes, for someone wanting those features over the different style of truck a Tacoma is or wanting the higher mpg etc, get the truck you want.

And you are right on the back seats. Also entry. I'd be fine with a taco, but when we were at a car show a few years ago of new vehicles, the only truck my wife actually liked getting in/out of was the Maverick. And even the Tacoma isn't really what she'd like sizewise for city driving. Maybe a 20 year old one lol... but up in Minnesota here finding one of those in good non-rusty condition probably costs over half of a new one.

and honestly I love tacos. I had one for a decade. But it’s uncomfortably cramped, bad driving position, backseat is awful. And the efficiency still isn’t there.

When my kids are grown and I permanently relocate to my mountain property I will most likely buy a taco again with rear locker and crawl control at minimum or something with increased off road and truck capabilities (body on frame).

 

[dochawk]

Had they given it a starting price of $24k - which would still have been a steal in the market - would it still have the same demand as it did when they called it the $19,995 pick up? I think it probably still would have.

I rather strongly suspect that it *was* a $24k or so vehicle to start with, and that Ford sold below cost at introduction to get a lot out there, figuring to make up for it in the future (kind of like everyone but Tesla with EVs)

 

[slashsnake]

I rather strongly suspect that it *was* a $24k or so vehicle to start with, and that Ford sold below cost at introduction to get a lot out there, figuring to make up for it in the future (kind of like everyone but Tesla with EVs)

Could be. Or that they priced it like most companies do with their small budget cars. With razor thin margins. And with it selling so well they figured giving it a truck markup would be more appropriate.

But I really do think that was the idea behind the hybrid being the base engine early on. It was the pricier one, but they made it the base option for a couple years to get people to try them and prove they work.

 

[GyroRon]

Been shopping for a new Hybrid Toyota Corolla for my daughter this week.... Same argument could be made about those... Cheapest Corolla hybrid has a MSRP of around 23-24 grand. But if you go to the highest trim model with every option you can very easily go over 30 grand, and that is before any dealer or port added " protection " packages and other fluff they add onto the car and onto the window sticker.

So in that case should no one buy a corolla XLE or the nightshade edition where they have paid over 30 grand because you can buy a base model LE for 24 grand?

And really, you could make this same argument for almost any vehicle. Look at Fords F150... Base model work truck is in the 40 grand range, yet you can easily spend 80-100 grand on a F150 if you go with the highest trim with all the options.


An argument that would have merit would be that Ford or Toyota or whoever, should not have such a huge increase in price to go from a Base model vehicle to the higher trim models.

 

[dalola]

Dunno.... I have 42K miles on my Lariat now, and find it to be an incredible value for what it is. Just depends what you want I suppose.

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