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Good luck with 150,000 fluid change. Don't believe that crap, Ford don't care if your out of warranty and need a tranny. Am changing my fluids every 30k. A few hundred now or 7000 later which do you choose. They also say on next page if you tow or have a car-top carrier every 30k, know a lot of Maverick's with car top carriers? sounds like there talking about f150. I don't believe this vehicle has a filter or a dip stick for transmission.
It also looks like things turned bad after some fluid changes too.
I’ll take my chances, I don’t tow or haul heavy loads with mine.
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I do sincerely apologize for my remarks.

You are correct that I don't know your true history in the auto industry. I was to caught up in other stuff I had going on when I responded to you. The snarky remarks we uncalled for.
Apology accepted - you are a Gentlemen. Come back anytime!!!
I do sincerely apologize for my remarks.

You are correct that I don't know your true history in the auto industry. I was to caught up in other stuff I had going on when I responded to you. The snarky remarks we uncalled for.
Apology accepted. You are a Gentlemen!!!
 

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It also looks like things turned bad after some fluid changes too.
I’ll take my chances, I don’t tow or haul heavy loads with mine.
The Fluid being changed isnt what causes issues. Improper maintenance while "changing" the fluid causes the issues.
 

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Makes sense since you can't replace the filter: all a flush will do is reintroduce some of the particles the filter already trapped. That is the one engineering feature I think was a bonehead move on Ford's part.
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I believe you on all counts, particularly the dealership causing more issues than they solve. Modern transmissions are complex, and not many techs have the skill. I would use a transmission specialist 3rd party shop any day over an average Ford dealership tech.

To me the most likely reason a Ford dealership would dislike a Jasper rebuilt transmission would be if they make less money on it than rebuilding it themselves. And I think that's very likely.
That's not true. Even in the late 90s when I was working in a transmission shop, eventually the owner ran the numbers and for certain transmissions it was more profitable to install a Jasper reman let them deal with warranty coverage then it was for us to take it on.
 

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The Fluid being changed isnt what causes issues. Improper maintenance while "changing" the fluid causes the issues.
Define "Improper maintenance while changing" the fluid".
Dirty shop habits?
Incorrect amounts added/not added?
Other?
 

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The way I see it, they like to put more gears into a smaller box, and need to install the filter deep inside, which makes it unserviceable.

This makes it unwise to service fluid too often, since it's impossible to change the dirty filter.

Seems to me, the best way to look at it is either trade before the manual says to service, or service once at around 100k, then deal with the slippage until it quits...
 

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Just picked my 22 up from having my transmission replaced. 99k miles. I called Ford and they were way more helpful than I could ever expect withnowarranty. They trimmed $3500 off . Ended paying $4,300.
Did you get a brand new transmission? Would love to see the work order if possible.
 
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The way I see it, they like to put more gears into a smaller box, and need to install the filter deep inside, which makes it unserviceable.

This makes it unwise to service fluid too often, since it's impossible to change the dirty filter.

Seems to me, the best way to look at it is either trade before the manual says to service, or service once at around 100k, then deal with the slippage until it quits...
Filter location in FWD Ford vehicles is unique and generally unserviceable. Not true on RWD.

I change all Lubrication Fluids once a year and never more than 20000 miles on then Transmission. My Fusion is an AWD 2.0 L Ecoboost. 5 qts+ and filter for the Engine,4-1/2 qts for the Trans, 1 qt PTU, 1+ QT Rear Axle. I do it all at home myself. Total Cost -$200. or less depending Motorcraft sales.
We typically drive 5000 miles per year. I also have Bumper to the Bumper Extended warranty.
 
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Filter location in FWD Ford vehicles is unique and generally unserviceable. Not true on RWD.
What about the Ford SUV/Maverick platform 4 wheel drive???

I assumed they'd come with a non serviceable trans filter, but not sure...
 

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Can’t trust the dealers. I had a buddy who worked for a dealer in sales. Had his maintenance done by the dealer and they forgot to fill the trans fluid back up after a drain. His tranny blew apart after about 20 miles on the highway. Lucky enough he got them to replace the whole car with an upgraded model on the dealers dime. Pretty much picked from the lot. The tech was fired after being on the job for 3 months.
I don’t trust anyone working on my car. If I can be in the shop watching them I would but they always say it goes against insurance policy to have a customer in there.
 

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What about the Ford SUV/Maverick platform 4 wheel drive???

I assumed they'd come with a non serviceable trans filter, but not sure...
If the basic vehicle is FWD - cross the vehicle engine mounting - they filter is not serviceable without separating the trans from the engine.
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