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I meant without tailpipe emissions numbers. I don’t think the EPA is going to take a vehicle manufacturers word for how clean their engines are. Way too many have gotten caught (AMC, Mack, VW) in the past to trust their numbers.

If you knew anything about emissions testing you would know it's pretty hard to do with measuring tail pipe emissions.

Looks like the southern end of a northern bound baboon.

This is precisely what causes a lot of the animosity, “that probably should”. Is this still the USA or should we all get ready to get in line for a vehicle that some think should be mandated for the commoner. Where does this stop?

Tesla hybrid? It’s about time.

And what about the incredible amount of OIL needed to lubricate these huge high friction loss gearboxes. And they leak worse than an old 9 inch Ford differential.

Covering 22 Million acres of land has No Affect On Nature or The Environment? It Will have quite an affect on some rich bastards wallet who by the way could give a rats ass about the economy!

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Non EV owners are tired of being told their vehicles are on the short list for future use. Buy what you want and allow the same option for the rest of us.

I don’t get the need for such a rapid transition from hydrocarbons to electric vehicles. Let the progression take place at a reasonable pace and also let the buying public decide what stays, what gets added and what gets deleted in regards to our vehicle needs.

I had one on my Frontier and used it all the time. Hauling gas/diesel cans, feed or anything you wanted to limit it’s movement. Don’t think I would have paid extra for it (but I guess in a round about way I did), it came with the truck as part of a “Value Package”.

Only in an Ecoboost Maverick! Sweet!!

Looks sweet, needs a gray, black, silver FX4 sticker.

Looks nice, don’t know if I’d get rid of those wheels though. Aren’t they FX4 wheels, the sweetest on the planet 😉

Never heard of that before.

Why would someone put weight in the back of their FWD?

No, probably not. Funny how you don’t see that many threads with AWD owners telling FWD owners why they chose wrong. Drive what you want, be happy.

Meaningless response. Would a Funny Car beat a Top Fuel Dragster if the dragster had 10" wide slicks, hell yes. Stick to apples and apples, equal or similar tires must be an important part of this conversation other wise it's just silly.

Right, both the Maverick and my old Frontier 4x4 would automatically turn off the traction control depending on the mode (Maverick) or use of 4 Low (NISSAN). I had a 2wd RAM with a HEMI and forgot to turn off the TC on a muddy road. Started to bog down and when I put my foot down there was...

Traction control has got more pickups stuck in mud because you can’t spin the mud off of the tires. And you trust traction control but not antilock brakes?