Sharing - Oil Analysis 2023 Hybrid

[CajunMick]

I do not pay attention to oil life, rather do mileage. Best I could recall 1st sample 1500 miles since new. Then 3k. Change to blend. Run that 5k, sampled. Switched to full synthetic and sampled at 2k. Reesullts shows shearing again. Just sampled at 5k, sent in for results. Just received 6qts Quaker State full synthetic for next oil change, soon .

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[Carlitos_92]

I have the turbo boost engine, non hybrid. Is it really necessary to change the oil every 10,000 miles? My engine has a total of 9,250 on it now. THANKS.

 

[CajunMick]

Don’t pay to %. Use mileage. Had oil samples + changed3x. 2x w blend. Now on full synthetic and sampled. All blend n synthetic samples revealed low viscosity numbers on Motorcraft. Just did new sample, waiting results.

 

[Chopperbobc]

Thank you Texas hybrid.... We need more reports like this from our Ford forum members....

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

I have the turbo boost engine, non hybrid. Is it really necessary to change the oil every 10,000 miles? My engine has a total of 9,250 on it now. THANKS.

IMO You should be changing Your Oil now if You have that many miles on the same oil as when You bought it. IMO at 10,000 miles You should have had Your Oil changed 2 times!!

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

I change my Ecoboost at 5,000 mile intervals because of the turbo. Full syn of course.
The analysis data would be useless to me.

X2, 5,000 miles and have the tires rotated at the same time.

 

[MavTed]

I don’t know if this is the place to ask my question, but I live in AZ’s Valley of the Sun. The summers are brutal for roughly 4 months/year. Should I be thinking in terms of “extreme” duty (5K miles oil changes)?

 

[HeyBales]

I don’t know if this is the place to ask my question, but I live in AZ’s Valley of the Sun. The summers are brutal for roughly 4 months/year. Should I be thinking in terms of “extreme” duty (5K miles oil changes)?

Your oil temps are known by the system, along with just idling time, ect.
All used in your Oil Life Monitor recommendation - you'll likely get shorter than 10K anyway.
And then how many of those are EV miles?
Your 25MY spells it right out.
How many miles currently?
What % OLR are you at now?
How many Electric miles?

 

[MavTed]

Your oil temps are known by the system, along with just idling time, ect.
All used in your Oil Life Monitor recommendation - you'll likely get shorter than 10K anyway.
And then how many of those are EV miles?
Your 25MY spells it right out.
How many miles currently?
What % OLR are you at now?
How many Electric miles?

Again, this was helpful. You’re just a wealth of information.

 

[Cherokee]

I don’t know if this is the place to ask my question, but I live in AZ’s Valley of the Sun. The summers are brutal for roughly 4 months/year. Should I be thinking in terms of “extreme” duty (5K miles oil changes)?

Double edge sword here.

Extreme heat=server duty
5,000 mile intervals especially in the turbo Ecoboost with full synthetic.

The Hybrid. More starts with the engine below optimal operating temperature.
Much higher rpm’s at times.
Yeah I’d do 5,000 mile intervals and full synthetic here also.

 

[Cherokee]

Oil Analysis should be used to identify problems before engine damage occurs? As a preventative measure?

Waiting 14,000 or 20,000 miles to do an analysis defeats this purpose?

Engine after engine, my whole life,
528,000 miles,
360,000 miles,
167,000 miles,
440,000 miles,
394,000 out of a AMC engine designed in 1957. A straight six 4.0L converted to EFI for Jeep. It was in a 1996 Cherokee. Never a single engine problem on any motor I ever had.
All got 10,000 mile service intervals except the Jeep. It got 5,000 mile oil intervals because we ran the cheapest Walmart oil we could find. Still got 394,000

Not one single oil analysis, ever. Oil additive packages are tougher than most think.

Oil analysis called soap samples by the Air Force. Done regularly to jet engines because a failure was catastrophic and killed people.
Done before purchasing a Semi tractor. Especially on engines north of 500,000 miles.

Had a buddy, medical courier,
Toyota Previa.
994,000 trouble free miles on cheap roach oil with again 10,000 mile service intervals.
Flat opposed engines don’t start dry.
Never did oil analysis.

To me oil analysis is like changing oil every 3,000 miles on vehicles that we won’t keep past 150,000. Wasteful use of finite resources.

But I do understand the science of spotting a problem with analysis.
Still makes no difference. You still have to fix it when it fails and most all newer engines are replaced not opened up for expensive repairs.

 

[CajunMick]

One could try getting oil analysis if questioning conditions of the oil.

I’ve had 4 analysis done so far. ALL Motorcraft, both blend and synthetic. Pulled one sample of MC syn after ~2000 miles, it too reveals low viscosity and shear. And this let me understand how engine wear is going, as well as how oil doing. In each one of reports, reveals lower viscosity than specification. And some shearing of the oil. Just pulled sample of the syn after 48xx miles.

And just received 6 qts of Quaker State full syn. .

Engine after engine, my whole life,
528,000 miles,
360,000 miles,
167,000 miles,
440,000 miles,
394,000 out of a AMC engine designed in 1957. A straight six 4.0L converted to EFI for Jeep. It was in a 1996 Cherokee. Never a single engine problem on any motor I ever had.
All got 10,000 mile service intervals except the Jeep. It got 5,000 mile oil intervals because we ran the cheapest Walmart oil we could find. Still got 394,000

Not one single oil analysis, ever. Oil additive packages are tougher than most think.

Oil analysis called soap samples by the Air Force. Done regularly to jet engines because a failure was catastrophic and killed people.
Done before purchasing a Semi tractor. Especially on engines north of 500,000 miles.

Had a buddy, medical courier,
Toyota Previa.
994,000 trouble free miles on cheap roach oil with again 10,000 mile service intervals.
Flat opposed engines don’t start dry.
Never did oil analysis.

To me oil analysis is like changing oil every 3,000 miles on vehicles that we won’t keep past 150,000. Wasteful use of finite resources.

But I do understand the science of spotting a problem with analysis.
Still makes no difference. You still have to fix it when it fails and most all newer engines are replaced not opened up for expensive repairs.

kinda agree. Curious of new engine wear n tear in early stages to tell me how it progresses. And how oil doing too. After I seen info, after some time, will stop analysis and just do routine oil changes, San any analysis.

 

[Chops]

Engine after engine, my whole life,
528,000 miles,
360,000 miles,
167,000 miles,
440,000 …..

The Motor Oil Geek did a YouTube video of a lecture he gave to dozens of oil analysis professionals. At one point he asked for a show of hands of folks who’ve performed one on their personal vehicle. One hand went up

Although maybe it would be like admitting that you stole something from work?

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

Don’t pay to %. Use mileage. Had oil samples + changed3x. 2x w blend. Now on full synthetic and sampled. All blend n synthetic samples revealed low viscosity numbers on Motorcraft. Just did new sample, waiting results.

Keep in mind HYBRID and ECOBoost engines are very different animals.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

IMO You should be changing Your Oil now if You have that many miles on the same oil as when You bought it. IMO at 10,000 miles You should have had Your Oil changed 2 times!!

Hybrids and Ecoboosts are very different.

Other than first time, or under severe conditions, I would not change oil in a hybrid before 10,000 miles.

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