Question about Slippery Mode

[Glen Baker LLC]

Derailed yes.
&
Not sure would take a suggestion off a website
To Use slippery mode all the time.

Would go to manufacturer to understand drive modes.
Since its called 'slippery' would wager that is for a reason of the surface condition.

Otherwise Maybe slippery should be called...
Something different like
'optional mode okay on dry surface but also works in Slippery conditions.'

How familiar are you with the operation of a hybrid Maverick's drive modes' on its Ecvt?

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[Deleted member 45110]

How familiar are you with the operation of a hybrid Maverick's drive modes' on its Ecvt?

I dont need to answer a question about my knowledge because that is not what this post topic is about.
***However thinking things through is a good tip!

imo there was an important question presented that directly relates to the topic about...
Does Ford suggest it's okay to drive in slippery mode on dry pavement?

IF it is ok, did not read that in the Ford manual. It says to use in Slippery conditions.

Will say that I've experienced enough to know that even when something works fine in the beginning, using it out of its parameters, the possible wear and tear or other factors and over time may have premature failure.

AND
If it is okay to drive in slippery mode all the time and at higher speeds like on the freeway. It's interesting that Ford did not indicate that in the manual about the Maverick vehicles.
IF it is okay, it would seem Ford could have indicated it would be okay. Because it does make an adjustment to factors of how the vehicle drives, it could be good for those that like that way. But its not indicated in manual that all time use is ok.

Also NO I do not simply believe what somebody will say especially on an internet forum about something that could potentially be bad result.

It would be correct to say the internet is not always correct.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

True, you don't have to answer.

I believe you did anyway.

 

[Deleted member 45110]

How familiar are you with the operation of a hybrid Maverick's drive modes' on its Ecvt?

Btw i wasnt being snarky.
More so being realistic about the principle of the discussion topic.

Which you dont have to

 

[Waterick]

With the '25 AWD Hybrid, the answer about all time use and improved fuel mileage is very different from the previous (and current) FWD only hybrids, I'm sure. With the AWD, I would imagine the slippery mode keeps the AWD engaged reducing fuel mileage and increasing wear. I would not use it except in slippery conditions.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Well now looks like your thinking about it?

Yes is a fwd hybrid owner.
Not as an Ecoboost.
There is a definitely a to hit MPG having all-wheel drive engaged full-time. Question is, how dainty is the AWD system, that it can't handle constant use without breaking?
So now we're not talking about the Ecvt but the PTU & RDU..

 

[Deleted member 45110]

Yes is a fwd hybrid owner.
Not as an Ecoboost.
There is a definitely a to hit MPG having all-wheel drive engaged full-time. Question is, how dainty is the AWD system, that it can't handle constant use without breaking?
So now we're not talking about the Ecvt but the PTU & RDU..

Asking questions about the vehicle
Kudo's

Your Breaking question may apply. With manual gear shift, using down-shifting was a way to not use brakes, causing others parts to take the results of usage.


... to the previous question didnt notice your reply on...
asking about what the vehicle manual says and doesnt say.

Why do you think it specifically says
For use in slippery conditions but doesn't say can be used at all times?

Seems IF it could be used always, it could have been listed as an
'All the time drive mode option.'

What say you?

Manual misprint or correctly written by the manufacturer?

*All vehicles have wear and tear.
When and how come can differ.

* potentially the amount of people that might drive with slippery mode on all the time might be such a small percentage that the actual results of that may not be visible to mainstream results

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Asking questions about the vehicle
Kudo's

Your Breaking question may apply. With manual gear shift, using down-shifting was a way to not use brakes, causing others parts to take the results of usage.


... to the previous question didnt notice your reply on...
asking about what the vehicle manual says and doesnt say.

Why do you think it specifically says
For use in slippery conditions but doesn't say can be used at all times?

Seems IF it could be used always, it could have been listed as an
'All the time drive mode option.'

What say you?

Manual misprint or correctly written by the manufacturer?

*All vehicles have wear and tear.
When and how come can differ.

* potentially the amount of people that might drive with slippery mode on all the time might be such a small percentage that the actual results of that may not be visible to mainstream results

Does that mean that hybrid AWD owners shouldn't use sport mode all the time, for fear they'll break something or wear it out?
What about hybrid ECO mode the manual doesn't say it's ok to use all the time.
Ridiculous

 

[Deleted member 45110]

Does that mean that hybrid AWD owners shouldn't use sport mode all the time, for fear they'll break something or wear it out?
What about hybrid ECO mode the manual doesn't say it's ok to use all the time.
Ridiculous

Again no reponse from you about a great question?
More rabbit hole from you...got it... Bunny

Yeah your being ridiculous not acknowledging the previous point in question!

Sport mode is an all time drive mode. Per the manual.

Slippery is not designated as that.

Read the next post.

 

[Deleted member 45110]

Here just read this from another poster in a thread about early wear on rotors.

By the way I don't give a hoot how people want to drive their own vehicles.
However this is a discussion forum, to that, To have a discussion about it is not ridiculous.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Not sure how many can see the difference between responses from EB drivers which is going to be potentially very different than hybrid drivers.

Especially AWD vs FWD which was not stated by OP.

For the hybrid since question was posted under the hybrid drivetrain section:

Slippery mode eases the Go pedal - that MAY allow you to stay on the edge of EV only mode when you don't really need to slip over to ICE assist.
Then again your foot could just learn to do that anyway and be just as good at it. Lot of range on the Go pedal.
Or your driving scenarios don't really benefit anyway - enough inclines and you may rarely if ever be on the verge. May always be ICE up and EV level/down.

Slippery mode eases the coasting regen - that may allow you to coast more easily, instead of pushing the Go pedal enough to remove the regen and freewheel where helpful with ICE off. Same skillset as above, can get good at it since big range on Go pedal.
Again - driving scenarios matter. Don't have almost level coasting, may not matter.

Slippery mode causes the braking regen to be squeezed into the last 15-20% of the available space, before the brake pads are applied.
Again - you could get good at that, but the brake pedal doesn't have nearly as much range as the Go pedal - if having trouble with Go pedal, you'll likely have issues here too.
Which means you'll be going past regen into the pads easily.
Again - driving scerarios matter - if long coasting available with few lights, might fit well. If Stop & go traffic with many lights without much lead time, might be wasting regen going into pads constantly.

This mode also causes the rear pads to be brought in 1st every so slightly more when you do go past regen into the pads.
Also calms the cruise-control response trying to get back up to speed - if using below 60 mph that may matter to stay in EV mode, if faster probably won't help since not in EV mode.
And yes - CC does work in this mode.

And then for the actual slippery conditions - Cherokee's great synopsis.

Hybrid it seems that cruise mpg improves between 40-57 while in slippery mode. I think that the less aggressive acceleration in slippery cruise allows more electrical assist time. Verses economy.

This is an interesting topic.

So, I went to North Georgia a couple of weeks after Hurricane Helene went through. Was on the FS road that crosses the Bartram Trail at the NC/GA border. It was loose gravel and steep in spots (hadn't been 're-opened' yet) my biggest challenge was straddling the deep gully washouts right down the middle of the road. I made it down to a trail okay, but on the return uphill I had to be very careful not to smash my little mudflaps and front valance.

So, I was crawling. And when I came to a dip or rut and stopped, there wasn't a single setting I could come up with that when I gave it input, the ICE engine would remain off. It would fire up and spin the tires every way I tried. And then shut off as soon as I let off the gas. My travel companion was having a panic attack and had forgot her meds and then I saw a couple of lifted SUVs coming up behind me and I was in the middle of the road. LSS, I backed up, grabbed anything I could find, threw it in the dips and took a run at it. Made it, but I was definitely not in a great place for just FWD.

The only thing I did not try was sport mode to see if I could have crawled the gravel with ICE on the entire attempt. Have any Hybrid FWD owners encountered this situation and solved it?

Did you try the "L" button?

 

[MakinDoForNow]

My previous post is Not disqualifing use it all the time.
But still the question is valid...

? Have you found anywhere in Ford literature that says it is okay to use all the time on dry surface? I think that would be an added bonus if it could be used all the time and helping your driving Style and MPG.

Manual states dry, gravel, wet, or slippery surface. It just changes the way the computer works the planetary gearset. Think of it as reduced Regen rate and controllable enhanced creep mode.

 

[Fender66]

After doing some research, what I discovered for the hybrid, is Slippery mode will always engage AWD. It never switches to FWD. At the lowest speeds, around 10 - 15 mph, the brakes will engage more aggressively. I assume this is to help prevent the wheels from spinning in slippery conditions.

Based on this and my peabrain logic, I will refrain from using slippery mode for day to day commutes. I don't feel a few extra mpg is worth the unneccessary mechanic wear.

 

[Waterick]

After doing some research, what I discovered for the hybrid, is Slippery mode will always engage AWD. It never switches to FWD. At the lowest speeds, around 10 - 15 mph, the brakes will engage more aggressively. I assume this is to help prevent the wheels from spinning in slippery conditions.

Based on this and my peabrain logic, I will refrain from using slippery mode for day to day commutes. I don't feel a few extra mpg is worth the unneccessary mechanic wear.

I do not know where it has been determined that slippery mode yields the best MPG on the AWD hybrid. All discussions and personal experiences that I've seen on here to date is for the FWD. I think for reasons you mentioned, it is not a good plan to use slippery mode on the AWD hybrid and might even be determined to lower the MPG. Someone please correct me if you know otherwise.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

Btw i wasnt being snarky.
More so being realistic about the principle of the discussion topic.

Which you dont have to

The very fact you said in print:
"i [sic] wasn't being snarky." is proof positive you realized others were correctly reading it in that light.

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