Not My Video - "Daniel Deliverz" - Tranny Problems at 80k

[710-oil-614]

The ecoboost is rated at 277 ft/lbs of tourque. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the transmission is rated for 250 ft/lbs. I would assume that means if you're constantly hammering on the throttle, you will eventually break the transmission.

Somebody watches Sarah N Tuned.....

I believe the 8F35 is indeed only rated to 350nm or roughly 258 ft lbs of torque - which was a surprising choice over the larger 8F57 that can handle 575nm or roughly 475 ft lbs of torque.

The 8F57 would have been overkill in the Maverick and I'm not aware of the 8F57 in any 2.0 EB - although it was used in a Ford Edge EcoBlue bi-turbo.

It is also pretty clear that you really aren't getting all of the 277 ft lbs of torque available to you. For the probably 80-90% of Maverick owners who fill on 87 - they are within the power limits of the 8F35.

For those of us who fill with 93 - the engine will detune when nearing heat soak and the transmission is tuned for fuel efficiency not speed - so it likely also will let the PCM know to turn down.

Last I'll say is that the 8F35 and 8F57 share quite a few parts with the 10R series transmissions, and the 8F35 shares many design features of the 8F57.....where as the 8F24 is a more simple and less robust design.

In the - the transmission likely is the weak point in the drivetrain but that hardly means it is a failure point that us owners should be concerned with every step of the way either.

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[Jman79]

In a bit of fairness, it's not too difficult to overlook the special use scenarios. Also it's a bit confusing that is mostly for towing etc. did he say he was towing?

I wrote this in the tranny fluid change thread, but I'll repeat myself. 150k transmission fluid change interval for normal duty in the operators manual is horse . I'll always do 30k intervals on my cars no matter the use. Much like changing your oil, it's a no brainer and little cost for a big preventative effect. I don't understand manufacturers who recommend such ludicrous long intervals for transmissions.

 

[Maverick2022XL]

In a bit of fairness, it's not too difficult to overlook the special use scenarios. Also it's a bit confusing that is mostly for towing etc. did he say he was towing?

I wrote this in the tranny fluid change thread, but I'll repeat myself. 150k transmission fluid change interval for normal duty in the operators manual is horse . I'll always do 30k intervals on my cars no matter the use. Much like changing your oil, it's a no brainer and little cost for a big preventative effect. I don't understand manufacturers who recommend such ludicrous long intervals for transmissions.

Common sense applies here. Check the tranny oil at regular intervals like every 30k, if it is nice and bright red leave it alone, if it is turn brown and/or smells burnt change it. This takes all of 5 minutes to do.

 

[AF Blue]

Man .. this stinks .. I like watching Daniel's videos .. He drives the snot out of his Mav
hope it's not as bad as it sounds.
I doubt he would get warranty coverage..but there is always hope(?).

Reminds me... i need to change my oil.

 

[Wizard]

Nice is not an excuse for negilgence.

I never said it was there princess, I am wishing him luck with his problem.

 

[Montana]

I hate seeing these YTers think this is common. When I was considering a full size with the GM 6.2L and it's AFM system, there are countless videos going over about how bad it is and every single one has prior videos of them straight up abusing their vehicles. One girl was by far the worst and had no experience on trails or dirt roads at all and she ended up getting GM to replace the truck at full cost. Comments all over the video are "did they not see your previous videos?".

It's one thing to put a a vehicle to the test, it's another to not understand what you are doing to it and ignore extreme service intervals, then expect the company to bail you out.

I watched one video from this guy long ago and watched him drive into puddles way too fast causing water to rush over the hood and you guessed it, right into the intake. He does seem like a good dude, but also pretty clueless. I don't see any value in his uploads and the marketing labels he puts on them like this one: "transmission issues, broke down" are clickbait AF.

He also paid Les Schwab about $600 (more if you count the interest from financing) more than what those tires are worth instead of going through Discount for some much better Wildpeaks. So it's clear he is beyond his limit financially with the truck. The only people who do that put them on financing and that is why Les Schwab is even in business with their crazy mark ups on their in house brand tires. They will literally extended credit to anyone. Sorry, not sorry, the kid is clueless.

RIP his Maverick.

 

[Maverick2022XL]

I never said it was there princess, I am wishing him luck with his problem.

That's mrs princess to you.

 

[ValenciaOrange]

He has nothing to worry about when he takes it to Ford. They will deny any warranty coverage and just present him with a nice bill.

 

[Montana]

He has nothing to worry about when he takes it to Ford. They will deny any warranty coverage and just present him with a nice bill.

lol. Just another day at the office.

 

[Maverickman74]

Before y'all jump on Daniel here. Whether or not he got all the proper maintenance done. He is one of the first guys to make videos of what the Maverick is and can do. He has put a ton of miles on it as a travelling Native American performer. He has also tested it to it's limits several times offroading on snow hills with Tacos and testing it in deep highway snow to the point of failure. Also recovering people several times with it. Whether or not he is on this forum, the dude is a REAL Maverick, and had delivered much information about the Ecoboost AWD trucks to us from the very beginning. I would consider him to be a Maverick legend up there with some of our race truck builders and dealership spokesperson/guides.

This result is of a maximum endurance of the Maverick platform?

Yeah he may be a good example for all the wrong reasons that the Maverick truck is more robust than anyone thought especially if it turns out his problem is nothing more than dirty tranny fluid that still doesn't excuse lack of due diligence and negligence in doing some simple maintenence to front run these issues. I'd take him seriously if he did and still had the same issue.

Not everybody has to be perfect to their vehicles. Infact most people arent. Whether or not he did any of that, he documented his journey and brought it to the masses. Thats his impact.

 

[Maverickman74]

Somebody watches Sarah N Tuned.....

I believe the 8F35 is indeed only rated to 350nm or roughly 258 ft lbs of torque - which was a surprising choice over the larger 8F57 that can handle 575nm or roughly 475 ft lbs of torque.

The 8F57 would have been overkill in the Maverick and I'm not aware of the 8F57 in any 2.0 EB - although it was used in a Ford Edge EcoBlue bi-turbo.

It is also pretty clear that you really aren't getting all of the 277 ft lbs of torque available to you. For the probably 80-90% of Maverick owners who fill on 87 - they are within the power limits of the 8F35.

For those of us who fill with 93 - the engine will detune when nearing heat soak and the transmission is tuned for fuel efficiency not speed - so it likely also will let the PCM know to turn down.

Last I'll say is that the 8F35 and 8F57 share quite a few parts with the 10R series transmissions, and the 8F35 shares many design features of the 8F57.....where as the 8F24 is a more simple and less robust design.

In the - the transmission likely is the weak point in the drivetrain but that hardly means it is a failure point that us owners should be concerned with every step of the way either.

Also my owners manual says 280lbft

I mean take 3 horses tie em together and piss em off, see what happens.

As for the transmission, if you go back through the years and look at transmissions. They put weak parts in strong cases and strong parts in weak cases, and everything in between. They do it based on what is needed in that vehicle, at that time, with that engine. Just take a for C4 auto, stock any year is good to about 300hp or so, but change up some parts andhave it assembled per spec and its rated for 900hp! I suspect the transmission differs internally slightly from other models its used in and they just dont have the time to rate the capability of every iteration of the case.

 

[Redneck Garage]

Exactly and notice he never once bothered to check or show the condition of the tranny fluid. That is the first and easiest thing to check.

Maybe yanking a huge Ford out of the ditch with a pull strap in ice at 70K was the reason he started having problems at 70K ???? No telling what he did OFF Camera ....... ID say this is self inflicted.

Look at 20:02

 

[Redneck Garage]

I have watched some of his videos. He is pretty rough on his truck. I believe he tries to drive through some deep snow drifts. He has to get pulled out. I know its a 4wd truck but I seen some serious fast driving on trails. Maybe the Tremor is made for that but not a regular 4x4.

 

[Redneck Garage]

Somebody watches Sarah N Tuned.....

I believe the 8F35 is indeed only rated to 350nm or roughly 258 ft lbs of torque - which was a surprising choice over the larger 8F57 that can handle 575nm or roughly 475 ft lbs of torque.

The 8F57 would have been overkill in the Maverick and I'm not aware of the 8F57 in any 2.0 EB - although it was used in a Ford Edge EcoBlue bi-turbo.

It is also pretty clear that you really aren't getting all of the 277 ft lbs of torque available to you. For the probably 80-90% of Maverick owners who fill on 87 - they are within the power limits of the 8F35.

For those of us who fill with 93 - the engine will detune when nearing heat soak and the transmission is tuned for fuel efficiency not speed - so it likely also will let the PCM know to turn down.

Last I'll say is that the 8F35 and 8F57 share quite a few parts with the 10R series transmissions, and the 8F35 shares many design features of the 8F57.....where as the 8F24 is a more simple and less robust design.

In the - the transmission likely is the weak point in the drivetrain but that hardly means it is a failure point that us owners should be concerned with every step of the way either.

I knew "her" before .......

 

[Tiger Dude]

"A lot of miles" doesn't qualify for extreme service.

Towing a Trailer or Using a Car-top Carrier
Extensive Idling or Low-speed Driving for Long Distances, as in Heavy Commercial Use
(Such as Delivery, Taxi, Patrol Car or Livery)
Short Trips that do not allow the engine to get to operating temperature causing fuel
dilution and an increase of the engine oil level
Operating in Dusty or Sandy Conditions Such as Unpaved or Dusty Roads

The above flips you to 30,000 mile transmission fluid changes

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