New Hybrid MPG

[Eagle11]

Aren’t they great!!!

This little truck has exceeded my expecatiation

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[MakinDoForNow]

NOt 100% true, Eco gives you higher regen, so when you coast you are recharging the battery more effectively which in turn gives you more BEV range. Click on my sig to see my MPG since new

I am not talking about capturing more Regen into battery. I am talking about controlling usage to maximizing your usage of available momentum and using any Regen energy before it's stored into battery thus not having as much conversion loss. As I indicated some with experience in standard mode can achieve better mpg than they can in eco mode because the are familiar with what it takes in that mode. I drove yesterday in slippery 41 miles and got 61.4 dash mpg in hilly winding road. Three or 4 times I got power needle as high as 30-40% into white slowly increasing go pedal in order to not increase ice rpm too rapidly. When speed got to 65mph I reduce go pedal only enough to put power needle at zero using ice generated current to maintain momentum as much as possible. When speed drops to 55 I will repeat go pedal. When approaching top of hill but before actually getting there I go back to zero power usage as I expect to need to use some of the Regen to maintain speed. Yes I can see the power needle halfway into the green at times but I try to keep it at zero as much as possible. The ice will cycle as needed to keep HVB between 30-40%.

 

[Darnon]

NOt 100% true, Eco gives you higher regen, so when you coast you are recharging the battery more effectively which in turn gives you more BEV range. Click on my sig to see my MPG since new

Being under more regen doesn't necessarily mean more efficient because regenerative braking isn't 100% efficient at capturing, storing, and reutilizing the kinetic energy. Technically maximizing coasting to decelerate would be more efficient (but obviously taking a half mile to gradually slow down would infuriate drivers behind you). That's why Slippery can be more 'easily' more efficient since it's closer to coasting if one is on-off throttle casually.

But the main point @MakinDoForNow is making is in the part you bolded is that the drive modes don't really change much about the core driving system. The actual maximum regen doesn't change with drive mode, just how much the system applies at off-throttle (and thus a driver needs to apply the brake pedal to reach max). A driver can achieve just as much regen in Standard as Eco. Likewise the max EV power available is unchanged, just have different throttle position sensitivities.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Being under more regen doesn't necessarily mean more efficient because regenerative braking isn't 100% efficient at capturing, storing, and reutilizing the kinetic energy. Technically maximizing coasting to decelerate would be more efficient (but obviously taking a half mile to gradually slow down would infuriate drivers behind you). That's why Slippery can be more 'easily' more efficient since it's closer to coasting if one is on-off throttle casually.

But the main point @MakinDoForNow is making is in the part you bolded is that the drive modes don't really change much about the core driving system. The actual maximum regen doesn't change with drive mode, just how much the system applies at off-throttle (and thus a driver needs to apply the brake pedal to reach max). A driver can achieve just as much regen in Standard as Eco. Likewise the max EV power available is unchanged, just have different throttle position sensitivities.

In addition I would like adaptive cruise to be modified to accept "econ parameters to give the computer room to operate more efficiently. If I could enter a minimum speed and a max speed and cruise could balance electron usage over a longer interval it could save at least half of the 2-4 mpg that it currently eats! Perhaps I could just select say 2.5 or 4 or x mph variance I would be happy with. Of course with the sensors at acc disposal it could select the mph of the adjacent vehicles instead of the most efficient up to the max mph limit I have set. No way I can verify but it seems that in slippery I can get a little better mpg with ACC on and set to 55-60 but NOT actually ACTIVE! Than if I have not turned it on. Maybe the program operates a little more conservative in that condition. I would also like a triple needle tach showing what % power each planet is using.

 

[Eagle11]

Being under more regen doesn't necessarily mean more efficient because regenerative braking isn't 100% efficient at capturing, storing, and reutilizing the kinetic energy. Technically maximizing coasting to decelerate would be more efficient (but obviously taking a half mile to gradually slow down would infuriate drivers behind you). That's why Slippery can be more 'easily' more efficient since it's closer to coasting if one is on-off throttle casually.

But the main point @MakinDoForNow is making is in the part you bolded is that the drive modes don't really change much about the core driving system. The actual maximum regen doesn't change with drive mode, just how much the system applies at off-throttle (and thus a driver needs to apply the brake pedal to reach max). A driver can achieve just as much regen in Standard as Eco. Likewise the max EV power available is unchanged, just have different throttle position sensitivities.

You and I have had our Mavericks for about the same amount of time, click on my sig, and see all of my fill-ups.
I have played with each drive mode and found that ECO works best, as you stated if one starts to slow down .5 mile from a light people wouldn't be happy, ECO allows you to slow down with. But I know what works for me and my truck, I'm averaging 47 MPG and it's only going up.,

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