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Agreed. The overprice bubble will burst eventually, but I agree with your timeframe. Crazy times we are living in.
The bursting bubble is hard to calculate. The increase of the minimum wage over a 2-4 year period will adjust to the general labor force. The people who are used to living and making a multiple of the minimum will generally demand the same multiple, that is to say they will not be content with the same dollar increase but if they were making 200% of the old minimum wage they will not be happy until they are making 200% of the new minimum wage. So where they were making $15 before they will want $30 now. I remember when minimum wage went from 0.75 to 1.15 the prices adjusted the ones making around $2.50/hr in about 2-3 years did in fact demand just that. During the same timeframe new residential construction went from $9/SQ ft to $15-$16/SQ ft.. the bubble bursting could in a large part be simply the appearance of a devaluated $. A used vehicle will go from today's price to scrap value is a few years. The only variable is the # of $/month will be greater because of the supply/demand adjustment. At what price per gallon will the population park their ice vehicles $10? $20? $100? And what will be minimum wage be? I think things will get much worse and electric bicycles and tricycle's will become quite common.
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A fella once said the true value of an item is can it be sold within 24 hours for the asking price. Can that Maverick be sold in that time frame? Most likely. Does that mean it is worth the price? Not to me. I could never enjoy the truck knowing I left that kind of money on the table, but that is me. I'm having a hard enough time coming to grips I will be paying MSRP or damn close. In the end, only the OP can make the decision.
I hear you on that! I might just sit on my Santa Cruz and wait to order one or get it at msrp. 🤷🏽‍♂️
 

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That is the question though that nobody has an answer for. What will MSRP be on the 23'? They raised the price on various items during this build year, I have to think the 23' will certainly have a higher asking price. You also have a 1k certificate with an end date to use that takes some sting off.

I'm not suggesting you buy it, merely pointing out that waiting on a 23' for MSRP may not, in fact, save you any money.
 

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I would not pay more than MSRP for a buggy first year model hybrid. In fact I am starting to question even paying msrp - especially towards the end of the model year right before a new year model comes out, and seeing all these pics and stories of dead hybrids.
 
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That is the question though that nobody has an answer for. What will MSRP be on the 23'? They raised the price on various items during this build year, I have to think the 23' will certainly have a higher asking price. You also have a 1k certificate with an end date to use that takes some sting off.

I'm not suggesting you buy it, merely pointing out that waiting on a 23' for MSRP may not, in fact, save you any money.
Good point! Ugh! I will miss my Santa Cruz tho but compared to hybrid it’s a gas guzzler but dang is it nice lol

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I would not pay more than MSRP for a buggy first year model hybrid. In fact I am starting to question even paying msrp - especially towards the end of the model year right before a new year model comes out, and seeing all these pics and stories of dead hybrids.
Wow really! No one on this page mentioned any of that. Should I be worried? 🤔
 

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Wow really! No one on this page mentioned any of that. Should I be worried? 🤔
With any product, there are always a vocal crowd bitching on the internet about it. Overall, the Maverick seems to be very dependable and well assembled for the vast majority of owners. A few occasional glitches with the center display/radio, and some weird occasional 'grabbing' on the brakes at low speed, seem to be the only complaints common enough to be considered 'universal' problems. Nothing major really.
 

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I just sold my gas guzzler and bought a 4k toyota solara that I'm probably going to lose a little money on in repairs and resale. If I found a hybrid on available for 4k over MSRP before I bought my toyota, I woulda jumped on it.

It's looking like the 2023 model is going to be the same (if not worse) waiting game. Chip shortage likely to last well into 2024.

Financially, best decision would probably be to wait. If you want it bad, jump on it because they're not going to be any easier to find any time soon. If I had a Santa Cruz and liked it, I'd just stick with that for a few years.
 

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I might consider paying the 4K over MSRP but I would tell them I want extended warranties or lots of Options that won’t cost them much but retail cost would cost you
 

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Wow really! No one on this page mentioned any of that. Should I be worried? 🤔
It's a hard to say right now because it's not all hybrids, but there's definitely a problem with some and it appears to a faulty soldering job on a battery cable. There's a thread on MTC (Deep Sleep) it might worth your time to read and at least understand what's going on. The thing that hasn't been identified yet is if it's just a certain time frame of trucks built or what.
 
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Hi everyone! Im new to the group and would like some advice. I just got a call yesterday saying a customer order didn’t go through for a maverick hybrid XTL with luxury package. The hybrids are extremely hard to get right now. They are doing a 4k markup! Do you think it’s worth the mark up or should I just wait it out? I just don’t know if I want this opportunity to slip since I don’t know when I will be able to get a hold on another hybrid. So my question is would you pay the 4k mark up or is that just crazy talk?! Lol thanks!
I ordered Aug.2 and all I've gotten so far is a confirmation. If my Maverick ever arrives and dealer doesn't live up to MSRP we agreed on I'll walk for 4-5,000. I wanted a somewhat inexpensive truck which it would no longer be. I got a thing about being screwed!
 

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It’s been mentioned here several times, but it comes down to need vs want. Factored in that is the financial impact. If you don’t know what you will get for a trade, then once you find out, that may be the deal breaker. You’ve already mentioned your discount you are getting which is $500 more than others. So now you are wrestling with $3500. If your fuel savings can be another $500 per year, then that’s a big help. So, like others, I tend to believe by the time you decide to go for it, it is either gone or they have decided to jack it up even more. Can you really believe a salesman? 😂
 

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That's a negative. I have the email that says otherwise. I have $1000 because of the memorial day military appreciation they bumped it up to $1000 and is valid until July 3rd.
I read your private offer post and I would use it to reduce the ADM and get what you can for the Santa Cruz. The anti Maverick posts represent less than 1% of owners and their experience.
 
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I ordered Aug.2 and all I've gotten so far is a confirmation. If my Maverick ever arrives and dealer doesn't live up to MSRP we agreed on I'll walk for 4-5,000. I wanted a somewhat inexpensive truck which it would no longer be. I got a thing about being screwed!
That is a very good point. They market a inexpensive truck but with these mark ups it’s no longer that and defeats the purpose.
 
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I just sold my gas guzzler and bought a 4k toyota solara that I'm probably going to lose a little money on in repairs and resale. If I found a hybrid on available for 4k over MSRP before I bought my toyota, I woulda jumped on it.

It's looking like the 2023 model is going to be the same (if not worse) waiting game. Chip shortage likely to last well into 2024.

Financially, best decision would probably be to wait. If you want it bad, jump on it because they're not going to be any easier to find any time soon. If I had a Santa Cruz and liked it, I'd just stick with that for a few years.
Good point and very true. And I do like it very much actually and honestly if the Santa Cruz had a hybrid option I wouldn’t even be considering the maverick but dang the hybrid is enticing
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