I'm actually really hopeful that an an all electric (or at least PHEV) Maverick appears in the next 3 years. Not buying any car for at least that long, but at that time that's what I'd like to drive.
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Sorry I can not have a vehicle that requires more than 10 minutes to re-fuel for my next 400 mile drive. Around the city ok.
Lots of factual information, misinformation, speculation and opinion in this thread.
Here's my .02, most of my information comes off web searches.
The average one way commute to work is 16 miles. (FACT)
In September, the average new car cost was $45,031. (FACT)
Escape hybrid base MSRP is over 28k, plug-in MSRP is over 33k. (FACT)
Electricity cost is based on what your utility charges. (FACT)
I am on Flint Energy, a co-op. I pay 10.55 cents a KW, 24/7. No peak charges. (FACT)
The electrical grids ability to supply enough electricity to recharge thousands of EV's is based on the region you live in. (OPINION)
Sometime in the future, the current fuel tax will be scrapped as more EV's are sold and less ICE vehicles are on the road. (OPINION)
In our current situation, one EV with a 35 mile range will meet all of our daily driving needs. Anything beyond a "daily driving need" we can own a second vehicle, (hybrid or ICE) or rent a vehicle.
On long trips we usually rent. When we get home, our cars are in the garage, clean, full of gas and ready to go. We hand the keys back to Enterprise and say thank you. They clean off the bugs and dig the french fries out from under the seats, we go home and relax.
Here's my .02, most of my information comes off web searches.
The average one way commute to work is 16 miles. (FACT)
In September, the average new car cost was $45,031. (FACT)
Escape hybrid base MSRP is over 28k, plug-in MSRP is over 33k. (FACT)
Electricity cost is based on what your utility charges. (FACT)
I am on Flint Energy, a co-op. I pay 10.55 cents a KW, 24/7. No peak charges. (FACT)
The electrical grids ability to supply enough electricity to recharge thousands of EV's is based on the region you live in. (OPINION)
Sometime in the future, the current fuel tax will be scrapped as more EV's are sold and less ICE vehicles are on the road. (OPINION)
In our current situation, one EV with a 35 mile range will meet all of our daily driving needs. Anything beyond a "daily driving need" we can own a second vehicle, (hybrid or ICE) or rent a vehicle.
On long trips we usually rent. When we get home, our cars are in the garage, clean, full of gas and ready to go. We hand the keys back to Enterprise and say thank you. They clean off the bugs and dig the french fries out from under the seats, we go home and relax.
So you pay, or at one time paid, a significant amount of your money for a depreciating asset designed solely to take you to places far and near. And when you go to far places, you leave this depreciating asset sitting in the garage and pay more of your hard earned money to rent an unfamiliar vehicle?
This seems completely pointless. A car is meant to be driven - that is literally its sole purpose. What are you doing, preserving the car for the next owner? We're about to put 4500 miles this month on our Genesis. We paid for it to enjoy it. I can't imagine paying more to rent a lesser car just to preserve it for no reason.
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Mlowe05, your reply is the beauty of living in America.
We choose to rent for long trips because it is what we want.
We pay cash for everything. I have not paid interest or finance charges for over 10 years. Dropping $400 to rent a car for two weeks once or twice a year is chump change considering most people pay more than that for a car payment for 60-72-84 months.
Do you feel the need to be critical of the choices we make because our choices are not the same choices you make?
We choose to rent for long trips because it is what we want.
We pay cash for everything. I have not paid interest or finance charges for over 10 years. Dropping $400 to rent a car for two weeks once or twice a year is chump change considering most people pay more than that for a car payment for 60-72-84 months.
Do you feel the need to be critical of the choices we make because our choices are not the same choices you make?
I was simply trying to wrap my mind around the logic of it all. I don't really understand the idea that since you paid cash, that makes it different. Regardless of how you pay for a car, it will depreciate unless it is something special (like your Mustang, but not your Accord). It's not really any different than buying a separate stove to make a big meal on so you don't get your primary stove dirty.
But you are, of course, free to do anything you like - you know, America and all.
Next June we are leaving our home in Middle Georgia and driving to Denver.
What would we do if we are in the middle of nowhere Kansas and get in a wreck or have a breakdown? What I am going to do is call Enterprise and ask them to bring me another car.
We took a trip to Key West. Ever drive through Love Bugs? It's like throwing marbles at your car at 70 mph. They often damage paint. When we got home it looked like the rental lost a paintball fight, it was full of sand and french fries. I'm glad I didn't spend a weekend cleaning up that mess. The rental cost us $225 for the week.
It works for us, peace of mind and our cars stay new for as long as we own them.
What would we do if we are in the middle of nowhere Kansas and get in a wreck or have a breakdown? What I am going to do is call Enterprise and ask them to bring me another car.
We took a trip to Key West. Ever drive through Love Bugs? It's like throwing marbles at your car at 70 mph. They often damage paint. When we got home it looked like the rental lost a paintball fight, it was full of sand and french fries. I'm glad I didn't spend a weekend cleaning up that mess. The rental cost us $225 for the week.
It works for us, peace of mind and our cars stay new for as long as we own them.
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I hope it takes a few more years to launch a Maverick Lightning or Maverick Mach-E (Ford has to start consolidating that branding at some point, right?)... so that I don't regret buying my Maverick Hybrid.
I am on PEC electric co op in Texas. Overall rate can vary due in part by the amount used
1. Meter availability fee (charged because you may want service as if your solar panels don't have batteries or batteries run short etc) =22.50/mo.
2. $0.028405/KWH
3. $0.044500/KWH
4. $0.013560/KWH
5. $0.00700/KWH For 24 months to make up unexpected expenses incurred during ice storm and allowed bean counters to maintain figures needed to maintain best interest rates on any money borrowed. So my monthly works out to just under $0.1063 this month less any earned amount held and dispersed by bean counters. Amount varies but can receive $ annually for several years even after you move and no longer an active member.
In Texas DMV collects odometer milage at time of annual inspection. This allows them to track milage driven in all vehicles ice & elec. I expect in the near future the legislature will convert in whole or in part to a milage tax instead of gasoline tax. I believe it would have already happened but federal fuel tax is probably compounding issues.
EV would have to have about 120 mile range due to rural situation and keep me out of rental car except 6-8 times/year.
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money sucking government will never stop collecting gas tax, but will surely add miles driven tax.
I Believe the MSG will implement the milage tax for all, while keeping the gas tax plus adding a "carbon" tax to it and collecting the milage tax possibly daily as reported by your car and deducted from your government Issued and monitored cash free debit card.
Perhaps one of the pre election chants = "NO MSG! NO MSG! .......etc.
I often rent cars for drive-intensive trips. When I go to visit family in Texas I usually end up putting about 2500 miles on the car in a week. Until COVID hit, if I planned ahead I was often able to rent a car for less than $200.
By renting, I get to put all that wear-and-tear on someone else's nearly new car, not mine. Plus... I get to try out a different kind of car now and then. It worked for me...
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