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You're Welcome! I'll continue to do what I want, too! Thanks for letting me know that people don't hot rod their mavericks. I'm sure the EPA would bust them if they tuned their ecoboosts. Besides, that would defeat the purpose of point A to point B transportation only!
What the hell are you talking about?

EDIT: Tongue-in-cheek I suppose...
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Had you not thrown out the "street princess" comment I may have thought you truly were answering to be helpful.
How is saying "street princess" any different than asking is it's a "hot rodder" thing? Were you butt-hurt because you thought was calling your Maverick a street princess? I guess you have to watch what you say around everyone around here. I'll try to refrain from helping answer your questions in the future to avoid your sensitive nature.

Street (pavement) princess - (slang) A vehicle (pickup truck, ute, or SUV) that has good off-road capabilities (often modified with the installation of large wheels, large tires, or lifted suspensions in order to increase off-road performance or appear more aggressive), but is rarely or never taken off-road.
 

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You don't have any Rubbing or anything with this tires in stock?
I don't have any rubbing but I put about 25,000 miles on these tires.
 

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Thank you for the information. Hot rodder is a term from MY youth when everyone lowered the front and raised the rear. Sorry it offended.
It's a term from my youth as well. You seem to be the only one here that's offended.
 

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Old and uniformed not offended. Per your definition the very act of adding a lift of any kind qualifies as a street princess. I would argue though that the Maverick does NOT have good off road capabilities.
As someone who has taken my FX4 offroad on many occasions in the Rockies, I beg to differ about it's capabilities. Yes, it doesn't "rock climb" as you put it, but it is good off-road. I own a '67 Bronco and a lifted/modified Jeep Cherokee, and I know what good off-road manners are. I would argue that someone such as yourself who uses their Maverick for "transportation from point A to point B" and hasn't bothered to explore its capabilities and doesn't know what benefits a levelling kit provides doesn't have a clue what the Mavericks' off-road capabilities are, so shouldn't be arguing.

The whole point of my initial comment, which you seem to have missed, is that a leveling kit is not just to make a vehicle look good (as referred to in your "hot rodding" comment). It serves a very useful purpose. The approach angle and clearance in front are the weakest link in its off-road capabilities. A leveling kit improves that without putting as much stress on the half shafts as a bigger lift would. Take that opinion for whatever you think it's worth.
 
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OP, did the same thing as you. When I replaced my Pirellis I upsized my tires and installed a level kit.

Went with Firestone Destination AT2 in 235/70-17. Running the stock FX4 wheel. No complaints. I have a thread of my upgrade on my profile.

For the level kit, went with Rough Country. Was like $80 shipped and took my dad and I only 3 hours to install. The Rough Country kit was pretty good quality overall, but the ABS wire drop-brackets seemed to be made of pot metal and seemed a little cheap to me.

No rubbing with this setup, but I'm unsure on if there'd be rubbing without the level as that was installed first, before the tires.

In regard to the axles, personally I haven't had one go out yet. So I can't speak to that.
 

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My general observation here has been; the owners having the most complaints(minus recalls) about problems seem to have arisen from changing out things that were designed for the Mavs by qualified engineers. Translation: screwing with qualified design. One being that it really wasn't intended to be an off-road very rugged terrain vehicle.
YES, each to their own! Personally, I like it pretty much as is!
 

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My general observation here has been; the owners having the most complaints(minus recalls) about problems seem to have arisen from changing out things that were designed for the Mavs by qualified engineers. Translation: screwing with qualified design. One being that it really wasn't intended to be an off-road very rugged terrain vehicle.
YES, each to their own! Personally, I like it pretty much as is!
I tend to agree, but I might take the risk with adding a bit of height to the front to even it out. The big risk is the CV joints, clearly. It seems ford has recognized the problem and has upgraded them on the 2025s, but I bet they are still subpar if used for off roading and custom suspensions. They are going to go bare minimum to meet 90% of their customers use cases.
 
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I appreciate all the genuine answers and observations here, the original question / suggestion was deviated due to members disagreement. My original concern with the truck front height is because of our streets here in PR, there are a lot of potholes and the truck suffer, my wife is the primary truck driver, I bought the truck for her, and I know she will appreciate a better height in the front and bigger tires.

I was thinking maybe with just bigger tires will be enough but I'm just playing with the idea.
 
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I appreciate all the genuine answers and observations here, the original question / suggestion was deviated due to members disagreement. My original concern with the truck front height is because of our streets here in PR, there are a lot of potholes and the truck suffer, my wife is the primary truck driver, I bought the truck for her, and I know she will appreciate a better height in the front and bigger tires.

I was thinking maybe with just bigger tires will be enough but I'm just playing with the idea.
Trucks are inherently not level without a load. Its not a car, and is designed to take a large load to level it. Having said that, the leading causes of CV joint damage on any vehicle are shock loading at higher angles and torn boots. Potholes are a major shock load, so it makes sense to avoid them. Increasing the joint angle by raising the body will put more stress on the joint during a shock event, while lowering the body will slightly decrease that stress. Hard acceleration while cornering (especially over rocks and potholes) is also a major failure contributor, and the mitigation is to just slow down. So if you absolutely have to hit that pothole and absolutely have to have your truck leveled, lower the rear instead of raising the front.
 

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If it were me, I'd get the larger tires and leave the ride height alone so long as there's no significant rubbing. You're only trying to help out for potholes and the larger tire is all you really need unless you're willing to more seriously modify the suspension and that may not bode well for CV longevity.
 

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What did you end up doing OP? Curious to know what you decided. It seems most of the people talking about CVs haven't actually had an experience with lifting/leveling their and having a CV go bad.
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