First Oil Change on New Maverick

[BlackMav23]

So I see a lot of posts regarding maintenance and oil change intervals with vastly varying answers. My question however is when ideally do you get your FIRST oil change on your new Maverick.

I usually do this early on, both because I want full synthetic and know that things get missed with vehicle assembly, but also because I've heard the break-in period can fill the oil with shavings and contaminants etc.

I included a poll. Yes there's a lot of options but I know some of us can be neurotic about our vehicles. I'm also not shaming anyone. We all put things off, so I'm not asking when you actually did it... but IDEALLY when would you think you should do it. Supportive reasoning is very welcome.

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[BlackMav23]

Obviously opinions on hybrids vs eco-boost may differ as well so debate away.

 

[oysterville]

Oh for crying out loud.

 

[Ozarkbeard]

Obviously opinions on hybrids vs eco-boost may differ as well so debate away.

Re: Hybrids, the ODO mileage and total miles on the gas engine can vary widely. The gas engine in mine typically only runs about ½ the time. The rest of the time, I'm in Electric mode, for most of the typical driving I do.

 

[paneubert]

Blackstone Oil report for both my Mav and my Subaru tend to say (and show) the same general trends with a brand new vehicle. Subsequent reports show that the wear metals and lubes go down (as you would expect).

Comments from FIRST Oil Change on the 25 Mav (have only done one oil change so far)...

"Congrats on your new Maverick! We'll remove the old Mavericks' files since they're someone else's problem now. You've got a shiny new truck, and it looks... well, like a shiny new truck. In our work, that means there's a lot of metal (from new parts breaking in) and silicon (from assembly sealers and lubes). That stuff should clear out over the next few oil changes, and then results should more closely resemble the universal averages, which are based on ~8,500 miles of oil use. Fuel dilution is a little high, but that's pretty common for hybrids. Overall, good! "

Comments on the FIRST oil change on my 23 Mav..

"Congrats on the new Maverick! This sample definitely looks like it was drained from a new engine. Copper and silicon are high, and those are typical wear-in finds. Copper is from brass/bronze parts breaking in, and silicon is from sealers and lubes used to assemble the engine. After a few more oil changes, this EcoBoost should look more like universal averages, which show typical wear after about 6,300 miles of oil use. The low viscosity isn't a concern (it's not due to fuel), and no coolant or moisture was found. So far, so good! Check back to monitor wear-in."

Comments on the SECOND oil change on my 23 Mav..

"Nice progress! Copper and silicon are lower, showing some of the bronze/brass break-in metal and sealers/lubes cleared out at the first oil change. Copper and silicon still have some ground to cove, but we should see them drop next time as this oil change likely cleared some more of the break-in material out. The other metals look good, and there isn't any coolant or water contamination to point out. Fuel dilution is present this time, but 0.8% is harmless and often from normal use factors. The thin viscosity isn't a concern. Good second report."


Comments on the FIRST oil change on my 24 Subaru.

"Congrats on the new Forester! Its first sample looks like it came out of a new engine, that's for sure. There are usually high levels of wear metals and silicon at the start, just like you see here. Universal averages show typical levels of wear metals and silicon from a Subaru FB25 engine after about 6,000 miles on the oil. After excess metal from parts wearing in and silicon from sealer/assembly lube wash out of the oil system, your results should look more like averages. High moly is fine; it's from the factory oil's additive package. The slightly low viscosity is okay."

Comments on the SECOND oil change on my 24 Subaru.

"We're seeing just the type of progress we'd hope for in this sample. Aluminum, iron, and copper
decreased as some of the wear-in metal washed out, and silicon's decrease shows sealers made their way out of the system too. As long as those elements keep trending downward, we'll have no reason to suspect trouble with wearing parts. The viscosity is in the correct range this time, and no coolant or moisture contamination is present. Fuel at 0.5% is harmless, and insolubles at 0.2% indicate oil filtration is working well. Overall, we like what we're seeing this time."

 

[HeyBales]

Obviously opinions on hybrids vs eco-boost may differ as well so debate away.

Not a useful poll because of that huge difference in models.

If you like reading debates - you now have 5 Similar threads listed at bottom of page, and each of those may list a few more different ones.
Knock yourself out!

 

[Tim d]

So I see a lot of posts regarding maintenance and oil change intervals with vastly varying answers. My question however is when ideally do you get your FIRST oil change on your new Maverick.

I usually do this early on, both because I want full synthetic and know that things get missed with vehicle assembly, but also because I've heard the break-in period can fill the oil with shavings and contaminants etc.

I included a poll. Yes there's a lot of options but I know some of us can be neurotic about our vehicles. I'm also not shaming anyone. We all put things off, so I'm not asking when you actually did it... but IDEALLY when would you think you should do it. Supportive reasoning is very welcome.

Op should specify ecoboost or hybrid.and i go by factory recommendation.

 

[CajunMick]

The Blackstone reports reveals a trend that disturbs me - low viscosity. My couple of changes, samples revealed low viscosity too. Blackstone saying no concern. Humm, my concern is the oils viscosity are not within range of what lube oil mfrs specs. We hear about additives added to enhance the oils. If the oils have low viscosity during cooler spring or fall climes, imagine what it would be during those hot summer days. Like those Stop start feature put in by auto mfrs to kiss butts of EPA, refinery’s do thinner oils for auto mfrs to satisfy those tree huggers. Yet if I disagree, put in say, 10w-40, will be bad fella. Kinda glad there adults in DC w common sense.

 

[Gotch]

You should add "Follow OLM" to the poll...

 

[The Real Maverick]

Blackstone Oil report for both my Mav and my Subaru tend to say (and show) the same general trends with a brand new vehicle. Subsequent reports show that the wear metals and lubes go down (as you would expect).

Comments from FIRST Oil Change on the 25 Mav (have only done one oil change so far)...

"Congrats on your new Maverick! We'll remove the old Mavericks' files since they're someone else's problem now. You've got a shiny new truck, and it looks... well, like a shiny new truck. In our work, that means there's a lot of metal (from new parts breaking in) and silicon (from assembly sealers and lubes). That stuff should clear out over the next few oil changes, and then results should more closely resemble the universal averages, which are based on ~8,500 miles of oil use. Fuel dilution is a little high, but that's pretty common for hybrids. Overall, good! "

Comments on the FIRST oil change on my 23 Mav..

"Congrats on the new Maverick! This sample definitely looks like it was drained from a new engine. Copper and silicon are high, and those are typical wear-in finds. Copper is from brass/bronze parts breaking in, and silicon is from sealers and lubes used to assemble the engine. After a few more oil changes, this EcoBoost should look more like universal averages, which show typical wear after about 6,300 miles of oil use. The low viscosity isn't a concern (it's not due to fuel), and no coolant or moisture was found. So far, so good! Check back to monitor wear-in."

Comments on the SECOND oil change on my 23 Mav..

"Nice progress! Copper and silicon are lower, showing some of the bronze/brass break-in metal and sealers/lubes cleared out at the first oil change. Copper and silicon still have some ground to cove, but we should see them drop next time as this oil change likely cleared some more of the break-in material out. The other metals look good, and there isn't any coolant or water contamination to point out. Fuel dilution is present this time, but 0.8% is harmless and often from normal use factors. The thin viscosity isn't a concern. Good second report."


Comments on the FIRST oil change on my 24 Subaru.

"Congrats on the new Forester! Its first sample looks like it came out of a new engine, that's for sure. There are usually high levels of wear metals and silicon at the start, just like you see here. Universal averages show typical levels of wear metals and silicon from a Subaru FB25 engine after about 6,000 miles on the oil. After excess metal from parts wearing in and silicon from sealer/assembly lube wash out of the oil system, your results should look more like averages. High moly is fine; it's from the factory oil's additive package. The slightly low viscosity is okay."

Comments on the SECOND oil change on my 24 Subaru.

"We're seeing just the type of progress we'd hope for in this sample. Aluminum, iron, and copper
decreased as some of the wear-in metal washed out, and silicon's decrease shows sealers made their way out of the system too. As long as those elements keep trending downward, we'll have no reason to suspect trouble with wearing parts. The viscosity is in the correct range this time, and no coolant or moisture contamination is present. Fuel at 0.5% is harmless, and insolubles at 0.2% indicate oil filtration is working well. Overall, we like what we're seeing this time."

Let me follow that with a yesbut.

Yes, but, what did those traces of metals look like?

I'm sure you'll agree there is a difference between shavings, dust, and dissolved metals.

If you have metal pipes, you are drinking some metals every time you drink from the tap. (Even if your house has plastic pipe, it probably passed through metal ones before getting to your home.)

Metals detected do not equal being harmful.

Just asking because I really am interested. If they are "normal sized" as at 10k but just more of them that is both logical and not worrisome to me.

 

[paneubert]

Let me follow that with a yesbut.

Yes, but, what did those traces of metals look like?

I'm sure you'll agree there is a difference between shavings, dust, and dissolved metals.

If you have metal pipes, you are drinking some metals every time you drink from the tap. (Even if your house has plastic pipe, it probably passed through metal ones before getting to your home.)

Metals detected do not equal being harmful.

Just asking.

Totally anecdotal, but I do recall a couple folks saying they saw sparkle in their factory oil. Unfortunately I have been around here since 2022, so there is no way I am going to find those posts or photos at this point.

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