Do you recommend adding weight in bed for winter driving

[Grand Nat.]

Forget the sand bags. Just throw a couple of cases of Molson in the back.

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[dalola]

I used "summer performance" tires during the winter in MN with my integra, and never slid unintended not even once.

I get what you're saying, every vehicle/driver (as-is) has a dynamic limit as it relates to road conditions, and I agree that one should understand those limits very clearly.

And sure, you can argue the "cost" vs "value" case, which is personal to each individual; but to suggest that a vehicle fitted with proper tires for a given condition offers no limit advantage is completely baseless, and factually incorrect. There are countless real-world road tests that prove this in a variety of road conditions, on public roads & race tracks.

 

[Gtipower]

Biggest factor in winter drivability the driver. Second biggest factor tires. Good AS with proper driving is all that's needed. Going through a roundabout on ice with AWD and winter tires at 45 MPH you're still having an issue.

 

[TacoTanium]

+1 the driver.

I get what you're saying, every vehicle/driver (as-is) has a dynamic limit as it relates to road conditions, and I agree that one should understand those limits very clearly.

And sure, you can argue the "cost" vs "value" case, which is personal to each individual; but to suggest that a vehicle fitted with proper tires for a given condition offers no limit advantage is completely baseless, and factually incorrect. There are countless real-world road tests that prove this in a variety of road conditions, on public roads & race tracks.

Can you find where I said it offer no limit advantage? I only reference something more important and some seems to assume a lot more.

 

[dalola]

Can you find where I said it offer no limit advantage? I only reference something more important and some seems to assume a lot more.

Expensive winter tires isn't going to prevent getting stuck or slip n slide.

Vs any non-winter tire, a winter tire will absolutely "raise your limit" from getting stuck, and sliding around. Sounds clearly like a limit advantage to me.

 

[Joester]

I have yet to experience snow in mine, but I also don't plan on adding weight via sand bags. I used the "Mud and Ruts" setting at a local fair when they were guiding all AWD and 4WD vehicles through a bog (offered free towing if you got stuck) with the intelligent AD screen up and never spun a wheel. Watched several larger trucks get stuck.
In my mind the engineers calculated the intelligent AWD distribution to the wheels well and I'm reasonably confident adding extra weight shouldn't be required.
As previously mentioned, the benefit would be having extra traction aid on hand should I get stuck.
I owned Escapes for 20 years and was satisfied in the vehicles' ability in snow. The Maverick shouldn't be anything but better.

 

[TacoTanium]

Vs any non-winter tire, a winter tire will absolutely "raise your limit" from getting stuck, and sliding around. Sounds clearly like a limit advantage to me.

simple english tells me preventing and raising the limit are not the same thing.

 

[rivermaverick]

If you do add weight make sure it is located within the wheelbase.
Over 50 years ago I was driving , too fast, in my Mini Van with a large toolbox right at the back - learned about 'polar moments of inertia' the hard way on a twisty road in Wales.

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