Dealer wouldn't do Tire Rotation because 2-3mm difference Front to Back. 30k mile service.

[MakinDoForNow]

The tires should be wear checked every so often and rotated when uneven wear is detected. Per Michelin on my Primacy OEM. Preferably below 1 mm difference. Discount will rotate free on tires purchased there every 4k miles. Did you wait 10-12k miles for oil changes to rotate your tires? In an emergency stop wet or dry your rear tires must grip better than front to prevent the rear from passing the front. It's a liability risk and dealers insurance probably has exclusion of coverage in fine print by mm. Drive it like it is until you change all four or move rear to front and put new on rear. Personally I would go to UTIRES.com, purchase two identical tires with tread depth to match rear within 1 mm.
Edit to add: front tire wear is increased exponentially as they become more worn from front. On my primacy best wear is at 3k rotations. Pretty much even wear but just did last rotation at 4.5k as fronts were little deeper than tears at checks.

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[AlsMaverick]

Al,
Can you find anything regarding New or Used tires. Verifiable source.
That contradicts putting the tires with the most tread on the rear?
https://www.souzastireservice.com/Tires-101/Front-or-Rear#:~:text=Then, since the front tires,(economy), or safety.

No, and I won't be looking. As I stated, if that is true then you can't rotate front to rear. Yet most folks I know with front drive cars always have. I don't hear about all of the accidents caused by doing such a thing. Sorry, I don't accept.

Edit: We should suggest that everyone rotate your tires every 1 to 2000 miles so there won't be any appreciable wear. That way you can spread the wear over all four tires.
Of course that doesn't include the five tire rotation we did back in the day when cars had a spare that was literally the same as the original tires on the car.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

The tires should be wear checked every so often and rotated when uneven wear is detected. Per Michelin on my Primacy OEM. Preferably below 1 mm difference. Discount will rotate free on tires purchased there every 4k miles. Did you wait 10-12k miles for oil changes to rotate your tires? In an emergency stop wet or dry your rear tires must grip better than front to prevent the rear from passing the front. It's a liability risk and dealers insurance probably has exclusion of coverage in fine print by mm. Drive it like it is until you change all four or move rear to front and put new on rear. Personally I would go to UTIRES.com, purchase two identical tires with tread depth to match rear within 1 mm.
Edit to add: front tire wear is increased exponentially as they become more worn from front. On my primacy best wear is at 3k rotations. Pretty much even wear but just did last rotation at 4.5k as fronts were little deeper than tears at checks.

Hmmm

 

[A.Bursell]

I rotate every 5k miles at each oil change. Tires wear evenly if you do consistent rotations IMO.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

I rotate every 5k miles at each oil change. Tires wear evenly if you do consistent rotations IMO.

Absolutely, without a doubt.
Rotation and Balancing 4k-6k
Tire pressure follow manufacturers recommendations
Maintain proper wheel alignment.

 

[JPatterson]

So I paid for the ExtraCare when I purchased my 22 Maverick Hybrid which covered the first 3 oil changes and tire rotations along with scheduled maintenance inspections.

I used the dealer valet service which will pickup your vehicle and return it after service is complete. When I got the invoice I noticed they hadn't done the tire rotation. Their explanation was that the front measured 6-7mm and the back measured 8-9mm and that a rotation was not needed. Isn't that why you rotate so that the wear is even? Obviously, the fronts wear faster but if you switch them, by the next rotation the wear should have evened out and then I could see not needing a rotation.

I talked to the service manager and he then explained the reason they didn't do the rotation is because higher tread on the front would cause oversteer in wet conditions. This is the first I have heard this and I guess it makes some sense, but seems that would be worse if the tires were at 3-4mm toward the end of their life, not when there is still good tread.

Does anyone have thoughts on this? Should I get them rotated or just wait until the front wear even more and then replace all 4?

Hogwash. What about braking traction? Is that unimportant? If your fronts were near the warning bars I would agree. But at 6-7 mm they pose no risk in the rear. In the dry they will actually have more traction than the others at 8-9 mm. ( but not enough you’ll ever notice)

 

[AzureBlueBill]

I talked to the service manager and he then explained the reason they didn't do the rotation is because higher tread on the front would cause oversteer in wet conditions. This is the first I have heard this and I guess it makes some sense, but seems that would be worse if the tires were at 3-4mm toward the end of their life, not when there is still good tread.

Total bullsh*t!

 

[tbradway]

dam who knew a 2 mm difference in front to back will be so dangerous and cause a wreck due to oversteer . im having mine towed to dealer and inspected for this .

 

[MakinDoForNow]

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[Rcrew]

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Wow! I guess some of our California injury attorneys have moved to Texas! Good riddance!

 

[Timothyd]

So I paid for the ExtraCare when I purchased my 22 Maverick Hybrid which covered the first 3 oil changes and tire rotations along with scheduled maintenance inspections.

I used the dealer valet service which will pickup your vehicle and return it after service is complete. When I got the invoice I noticed they hadn't done the tire rotation. Their explanation was that the front measured 6-7mm and the back measured 8-9mm and that a rotation was not needed. Isn't that why you rotate so that the wear is even? Obviously, the fronts wear faster but if you switch them, by the next rotation the wear should have evened out and then I could see not needing a rotation.

I talked to the service manager and he then explained the reason they didn't do the rotation is because higher tread on the front would cause oversteer in wet conditions. This is the first I have heard this and I guess it makes some sense, but seems that would be worse if the tires were at 3-4mm toward the end of their life, not when there is still good tread.

Does anyone have thoughts on this? Should I get them rotated or just wait until the front wear even more and then replace all 4?

In theory. In practice I don't think you'll notice anything. Rotate them.

I was going to get snow tires at Discount Tire but they would only put them on the back. Said the truck would flip around 180 if I braked.

 

[ulyssesvt]

I recently had my VW Sportwagen (FWD) in for service. The dealer said they didn't rotate the tires because there was more tread on the front tires and that was as it should be. On the other hand, they also said I needed new tires, which was BS. None of them were anywhere near the wear bars and all have visibly good tread.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

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Right or Wrong what if.....(the decedent could have been driving too fast for conditions.) But what if....? ( The new tires had been properly placed on the back??)
Just the hint of a lawsuit involving a death. Add a sympathetic jury.
That'll tighten the sphincter of a corporate attorney.
Anyway you look at it.
It's going to be $$$$$$$$

It's funny.
Everyone hates lawyer's. Until they Need one.
Then they want the best there is.
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[TheSEARCH]

Way back in the 1980'S I worked at a tire shop./ I used to take off tires from cars that were getting new ones. if they had some tire left I would mount and balance too then put onto my AMC Gremlin and had all sorts of different brand but about the same size on the car. Granted old style car no abs or anything. BUT I never crashed because of tires .

But this the tires are more worn on front!! OF COURSE they are that is the whole reason to put to back. I don't cross my tires just front to back. That is insane reason. Go somewhere else. I would stay far away from that dealer

 

[Oscarcat]

I would ask what a rotation costs and then ask them to refund you this amount since you already paid for it.

(IN THE RAIN ONLY) If there was a huge difference in threat depth, with one set at end-of-life, then they are correct, but this is not the case here - one pair are in great shape and the other pair are still in good shape. Rotation is completely acceptable and safe in this instance. I don't believe that Nashville gets much snow but I could be wrong.

The rear tires at highway speeds (IN THE RAIN) do not need to evacuate anywhere near the same amount of water that the fronts do, in fact the better tires should be on the front, IF the rear tires are still in good shape. (In the SNOW this is the opposite). The better tires should ALWAYS ALWAYS be on the rear, regardless of front wheel, rear wheel or AWD.

This is coming from a driver with 40 years of experience driving in Canada who has learnt all these lessons the hard way, and have been very lucky in doing so.

I have always been told that the "better" tires belong on the front, particularly in a FWD vehicle because that is where the steering, traction and majority of braking pressure occurs.

The purpose of rotating is so a set of 4 tires wears more evenly due to the above. If the OP's wear is that uneven, perhaps the dealer failed to rotate at previous service intervals???

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