Asking for a friend. Will it be built?

[MAVRICKDAVE]

Ford Motor Company <[email protected]-ford.com>


Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 1:30 PM

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​ ​ ​ ​ ​ Your order has been confirmed. ​ ​ View Online ​ ​ Computer‑generated image shown. Vehicle image shown for illustration only and does not reflect vehicle ordered.​ ​ YOUR ORDER HAS BEEN CONFIRMED Dear Congra‍tulations on ordering your new Maverick XLT! Your order has been placed with Ford Motor Company on your behalf by Germain Ford. .​ ​ ​ A SUMMARY OF YOUR ORDER IS OUTLINED BELOW*​ ​ 2023 Maverick XLT Advanced 4WD:​ ​ 2.0L I-4 EcoBoost Engine 8-Speed Automatic Transmission Oxford White Black Onyx Unique Cloth Bucket Front-Seats 17” Machined-face Tarnished Dark Painted Aluminum Wheels with Orange Painted Pockets XLT Package Ford Co-Pilot360™ Package *Does not show all optional and included packages/‍features.​

He also has all the 45 day Dear John emails Saying they are...

Another update on your Ford order View Online

Dear Thank you again for your Maverick XLT order. We wanted to let you know that we are still up against supply chain challenges, which are causing delays with getting your vehicle into production. While we understand how frustrated you may be (we are too), rest assured, our team is working diligently and aggressively to get you behind the wheel. We know how much anticipation there is when it comes to getting a new Ford, so we will continue to keep you updated. In the meantime, we apologize for any inconvenience and remain grateful for your patience and understanding. This is NOT a Hybrid. ?????????​

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[MAVRICKDAVE]

Should he just wait till 7/17 and order a 24 model?

 

[TheSEARCH]

Well for sure order a 24 just in case. From all I read there should be plenty of ecoboost built for 2023. BUT then it comes down to this crazy allocation thing. So he might not get his/hers.

 

[colinl]

You'll get balanced out before MY24 orders open. So, your dealership will know if it's not going to be built. Until that happens, it could possibly be built, yes. I am not sure what build weeks they are scheduling now but I wouldn't think they are already through all of MY23 scheduling.

 

[OleFordGuy]

The old Ouija board predicted: unknown due to allocations, 50/50 chance

 

[colinl]

The old Ouija board predicted: unknown due to allocations, 50/50 chance

probably higher than 50% if his profile is correct and it's an ecoboost... unless it's an XL.

if it's an XLT or Lariat I think it is 70-85%+ chance to get built.

 

[colinl]

Talking to myself a bit here, but I just saw in another thread that the balance-out date is 10/14/23. If it's like last year, some hybrid orders will start getting balanced out before that date.

But my real point is that date is after MY24 orders open. So for the OP and anyone else, if you're still unscheduled when MY24 order banks open, hell yes you want to put in a MY24 order asap. Do not wait to see what happens with your MY23. If anything special happens with unfilled MY23 you can order again, if necessary. Getting in the MY24 asap is critical.

 

[Xbbqpitmaster]

Yes, no, maybe so.
I had given up all hope and had to have a vehicle. So after 1 month into my new vehicle I got my email with a build date… never fails.

 

[Scott Asheville]

I have a feeling, totally unsupported by fact, that in six months you'll be able to walk onto any dealer lot and buy an ecoboost on the spot - just like the old days. Why? Partly because of the extra shift catching up with orders. Partly because I suspect they'll build more ecoboost models as they try to figure out the hybrid fire thing that has stopped delivery. If you are Ford, build what you can sell now.

Total conjecture. Likely hot air and BS, but it's my take.

 

[colinl]

I have a feeling, totally unsupported by fact, that in six months you'll be able to walk onto any dealer lot and buy an ecoboost on the spot - just like the old days. Why? Partly because of the extra shift catching up with orders. Partly because I suspect they'll build more ecoboost models as they try to figure out the hybrid fire thing that has stopped delivery. If you are Ford, build what you can sell now.

Total conjecture. Likely hot air and BS, but it's my take.

Not sure about the six months and not sure if Ford is going to go back to the stock model or if they will primarily do build-to-order. It's a lot less wasted inventory if you overbuild and have to use incentives to move trucks, but at the same time, there is NO stock now.

Agreed about ecoboost.

I very much doubt that we're going to see hybrid stock anytime soon. They'll all get chewed up in retail orders and fleet. Especially fleet. There was a guy with a pool service that somehow bought 6 hybrid Mavs retail, not fleet. He said they were going to save the company more than 200K the first year. That's between purchase price (old trucks were Ridgelines), fuel savings and insurance cost.

That's only six. Imagine the savings for a company with a fleet in the thousands or ten thousands.

 

[c340]

Not sure about the six months and not sure if Ford is going to go back to the stock model or if they will primarily do build-to-order. It's a lot less wasted inventory if you overbuild and have to use incentives to move trucks, but at the same time, there is NO stock now.

Agreed about ecoboost.

I very much doubt that we're going to see hybrid stock anytime soon. They'll all get chewed up in retail orders and fleet. Especially fleet. There was a guy with a pool service that somehow bought 6 hybrid Mavs retail, not fleet. He said they were going to save the company more than 200K the first year. That's between purchase price (old trucks were Ridgelines), fuel savings and insurance cost.

That's only six. Imagine the savings for a company with a fleet in the thousands or ten thousands.

This kind of thing is why I can't figure out why every car manufacturer is not putting their full force behind creating small, affordable, efficient trucks. Hello!! Is anyone out there paying attention?

 

[colinl]

This kind of thing is why I can't figure out why every car manufacturer is not putting their full force behind creating small, affordable, efficient trucks. Hello!! Is anyone out there paying attention?

Grossly oversimplified.

It's not quite so easy to create something like a Maverick. If you watch the popular video with the Canadian guy reviewing a Maverick and he owns a Santa Cruz, he points out things that make good truck sense... and it's because Ford knows trucks and Hyundai doesn't.

Subaru was too early to market and failed to connect to truck buyers with the 2003 Baja. Even the hot (at that time) 2.5 turbo couldn't sell those 'trucks'.

I'm not saying that Toyota couldn't chop the back off a RAV-4 and tweak the interior a little to make a good compact unibody truck, but at the same time if they literally just did that, there is no guarantee it would be a hit. Plus Toyota sells a lot of Tacomas. If they build a compact truck and many of the sales cannibalize the Tacoma, are they really ahead?

 

[Bob The Builder]

But, can all the other manufacturers just sit idly by and let Ford have all the glory? I say no, they cannot. Not in their DNA.

 

[jewc75]

Grossly oversimplified.

It's not quite so easy to create something like a Maverick. If you watch the popular video with the Canadian guy reviewing a Maverick and he owns a Santa Cruz, he points out things that make good truck sense... and it's because Ford knows trucks and Hyundai doesn't.

Subaru was too early to market and failed to connect to truck buyers with the 2003 Baja. Even the hot (at that time) 2.5 turbo couldn't sell those 'trucks'.

I'm not saying that Toyota couldn't chop the back off a RAV-4 and tweak the interior a little to make a good compact unibody truck, but at the same time if they literally just did that, there is no guarantee it would be a hit. Plus Toyota sells a lot of Tacomas. If they build a compact truck and many of the sales cannibalize the Tacoma, are they really ahead?

The Tacoma fits a market that no one really fills, the Ranger is really its only competition.

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