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I get that they want to save by reusing stuff but a mechanically decoupled electric motor is probably simpler overall. Plus, doesn't Ford share hybrid IP with Toyota?

Plus, did I mention more power?!!? 😁
Well that’s disappointing. I just assumed Ford would use an electric motor at the back rather than run a driveshaft. It’s an archaic way to achieve AWD.
The "archaic" way is the way to get more power to all the wheels.

Electric motors are EXPENSIVE, and it's cheaper to use mechanical AWD. PLUS, the electric motors by themselves DO NOT provide much power at all- supposedly the rear motor in the Sienna is only about 50hp.
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The hump and it’s just not as efficient. There is a lot of energy loss spinning a driveshaft they having the energy turn 90 degrees to the wheels and because the AWD would be used very little I don’t think battery state of charge would have little effect. Seems to work for Toyota and they use it on every AWD platform.
The key here was to use something that was already developed and required no new parts. Since I think all components are carryover from Ecoboost AWD, Ford gets a sweet $2200 upcharge at relatively low cost.
 

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You believe Maverick owners are using their vehicles off road?
Yes. And the mechanical system is damn good. I wouldn't have bought one if it had an electric motor.
 

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The "archaic" way is the way to get more power to all the wheels.

Electric motors are EXPENSIVE, and it's cheaper to use mechanical AWD. PLUS, the electric motors by themselves DO NOT provide much power at all- supposedly the rear motor in the Sienna is only about 50hp.
I agreed, electric motors are expensive but for the intended use that almost all owner will use their Maverick, the rear electric motor is a better choice. The reality is most will buy the Maverick and AWD just because it says AWD and won’t have a clue of the engineering. If Ford can use something they have already invested money in, regardless if it’s inferior, they save money.
 

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Yes. And the mechanical system is damn good. I wouldn't have bought one if it had an electric motor.
Be realistic, very few owners will ever take their Maverick off road. It’s the wrong vehicle.
 

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Be realistic, very few owners will ever take their Maverick off road. It’s the wrong vehicle.
Very few will do that. That's true.

Just like very few people will tow with their F-150, take their sports car above 70 mph or to a track, etc. It's all an image.

I just think of it was a modern Subaru Baja with more power and capability.
 

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I get that they want to save by reusing stuff but a mechanically decoupled electric motor is probably simpler overall. Plus, doesn't Ford share hybrid IP with Toyota?

Plus, did I mention more power?!!? 😁
Coincidentally I was reading an article recently or YouTube video and they mentioned Toyota's all wheel drive with the electric motors independently powering the rear wheels does not work well. I was very surprised by that and wonder if other people agree. I thought of that design before Toyota actually came out with it.
 

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Coincidentally I was reading an article recently or YouTube video and they mentioned Toyota's all wheel drive with the electric motors independently powering the rear wheels does not work well. I was very surprised by that and wonder if other people agree. I thought of that design before Toyota actually came out with it.
Doesn't work well in what way? I've driven up some pretty steep and twisty access roads with snow/ice on them with regular all seasons on my rav4 and there was no problem. Now if I was trying to creep up something designed to stress out the system of yeah it might struggle. I've seen the Subaru promotional material (I also own one of those) and yes, in some very specific situations the Subaru will keep moving forward.
 
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Yes. And the mechanical system is damn good. I wouldn't have bought one if it had an electric motor.
Well good luck with that. Low ground clearance, AWD and not 4WD, no skid plates (just a felt cover) and a very expensive hybrid battery that sits dead center under the vehicle. Can you off road a Maverick, sure can but it’s the wrong tool for the job.
 

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Coincidentally I was reading an article recently or YouTube video and they mentioned Toyota's all wheel drive with the electric motors independently powering the rear wheels does not work well. I was very surprised by that and wonder if other people agree. I thought of that design before Toyota actually came out with it.
I have a AWD Venza. It works very well and I’ve personally haven’t heard of anyone complaining with it. I’m a retired Toyota tech.
 
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Regarding the 4K Tow Package on a hybrid, if you are not planning on towing anything, yes, you get a larger cooling fan and a larger spare tire to mention a few, but isn’t the drive ratio different ? Are you taking a needless mileage hit due to the different axle ratios ?
 

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Well good luck with that. Low ground clearance, AWD and not 4WD, no skid plates (just a felt cover) and a very expensive hybrid battery that sits dead center under the vehicle. Can you off road a Maverick, sure can but it’s the wrong tool for the job.
The hybrid as it comes stock needs both the skid plate for the engine bay and a plate for the battery/evap canister, which might not even get designed in the aftermarket, for me to be comfortable taking it everywhere my FX4 has been. I think you might be surprised with how capable these things are given the limitations they have due to being unibody and having poor approach/departure angles. They work pretty well for forest service roads, especially in the summer...
 

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The hybrid as it comes stock needs both the skid plate for the engine bay and a plate for the battery/evap canister, which might not even get designed in the aftermarket, for me to be comfortable taking it everywhere my FX4 has been. I think you might be surprised with how capable these things are given the limitations they have due to being unibody and having poor approach/departure angles. They work pretty well for forest service roads, especially in the summer...
I don’t consider a forest service ā€œroadā€ as off road. It’s just an unpaved road. I could take a Camry down a service road.
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