A couple articles one EV vs Hybrid? The other investing in new fuel.

[Hunters Edge]

https://www.theautopian.com/man-doe...-full-day-quicker-in-a-hybrid/comment-page-1/

https://www.ecoticias.com/en/america-hydrogen-energy/3267/

Just for the record I think a lot of technology will be introduced or come about, either by necessity, or most likely profit, in the near future.

Edit just read this article and thought it was notable https://www.ecoticias.com/en/hydrogen-aluminum-engine/3313/

Sponsored

 

[Mervin the Maverick]

Did you see that Ford will offer an F250 package that will accept/burn jet fuel?

I assume this is mostly targeted toward the military.

 

[Hunters Edge]

Did you see that Ford will offer an F250 package that will accept/burn jet fuel?

I assume this is mostly targeted toward the military.

Yes I did a day or two ago. Also Toyota has an engine using basically rubbing alcohol if I remember with high hp
and high torque. Mazda experimenting with small rotorary engine to produce electricity. Are just a few I have read in the past.

Also the article above EV vs Hybrid was about cost comparison on a trip around 3500/3600 miles. It was a trip and I believe didn't include the cost of putting a charging station at your home. Mostly showing the EV can do a trip of course that depends where charging stations are along the way and the wait time just to hook up to charge. Luckily it sounds like they did not have a wait time to using the charging stations and only included the time necessary to recharge the EV.

What I don't understand is going to EV to reduce carbon footprint yet articles I've read in the past 90% of the carbon is from manufacturing. Don't get me wrong some improvement is better than none. Just seems we have a better chance at removing the carbon footprint by attacking the major cause of it, rather than the least.

I've also read Porsche is working on making a synthetic gas. Actually they have it now, from the article I read. The issue with that is the cost, at this time it's cost prohibited. The nice thing is zero emissions.

I really think new technology is right around the corner. That also includes in the EV technology and not just battery.

 

[huunvubu]

https://www.theautopian.com/man-doe...-full-day-quicker-in-a-hybrid/comment-page-1/

https://www.ecoticias.com/en/america-hydrogen-energy/3267/

Just for the record I think a lot of technology will be introduced or come about, either by necessity, or most likely profit, in the near future.

Edit just read this article and thought it was notable https://www.ecoticias.com/en/hydrogen-aluminum-engine/3313/

These 'this is the greatest thing since sliced bread' articles are pure hyperbole as they present lab based discoveries as if they are 100% certain that production is imminent without knowing production costs or if it is evenly possible to produce at a mass scale or at any scale.

I have learned to ignore these hyperbole articles and wait until the manufacturer's announce new technologies because they are the ones who have to pay for implementing them and then pass the costs down to us the consumers.

 

[The Real Maverick]

Did you see that Ford will offer an F250 package that will accept/burn jet fuel?

I assume this is mostly targeted toward the military.

Jet fuel is diesel fuel. Not really noteworthy IMHO.

 

[Mervin the Maverick]

Jet fuel is diesel fuel. Not really noteworthy IMHO.

I understand, but it much more available on the battlefield!

it won’t work for you and I, but it is an interesting note for the military.

 

[The Real Maverick]

I understand, but it much more available on the battlefield!

it won’t work for you and I, but it is an interesting note for the military.

You can put jet fuel in all current diesels on the road. But it usually costs more. So why would you.

*You probably shouldn't use jet fuel exclusively long-term due to small differences in lubrication properties. Jet fuel has less lubrication. But mixed, or used here and there is fine.

 

[Mervin the Maverick]

Jet fuel is diesel fuel. Not really noteworthy IMHO.

I know, but again, worth the Military looking at it.
It’s not for you or I.

 

[Mervin the Maverick]

You can put jet fuel in all current diesels on the road. But it usually costs more. So why would you.

*You probably shouldn't use jet fuel exclusively long-term due to small differences in lubrication properties. Jet fuel has less lubrication. But mixed, or used here and there is fine.

Once again, this is for military vehicles where this fuel is readily available.

I never implied that it was good for you or I!

 

[Scott Asheville]

I'll point everyone to last weeks Autoline After Hours. They have a senior VP from Bosch who went into all sorts of potential power sources across various automotive segments. He stayed firmly grounded in industrial reality. He talked about hydrogen, batteries, gasoline, synthetic fuels and more.

It's easy to write a sensational article and get everyone all pumped up. It's a whole different animal to invest tens of billions of dollars for a industrial infrastructure for the latest lab toy. And then get millions upon millions of skeptical consumers to buy into it.

 

[rad32]

The ev vs hybrids article is interesting. I kinda disagree about phevs. I recently traded in one and my wife still has one. There are definite benefits to them. Shes been on a quarter of a tank for the last 3 weeks with no need to fill up. We have a charger at home and she can do all of her daily errands within its ev range. Where I struggle with them is the big battery when its empty. It still helps you get going even when you are 0 (really 15-20% because they all have buffers) like a regular hybrid. On the highway though they are much less efficient than a regular hybrid and even their gas equivalents. So if you are going to do alot of driving outside its range they lose their appeal quick. So to me households in the future will probably settle on some sort of mix between having one big hybrid suv/truck for road trips and then a secondary ev to do the day-to-day driving. Atleast if not forced to choose one or the other.

 

[Bruce W]

https://www.theautopian.com/man-doe...-full-day-quicker-in-a-hybrid/comment-page-1/

https://www.ecoticias.com/en/america-hydrogen-energy/3267/

Just for the record I think a lot of technology will be introduced or come about, either by necessity, or most likely profit, in the near future.

Edit just read this article and thought it was notable https://www.ecoticias.com/en/hydrogen-aluminum-engine/3313/

That is what the shuttle solid rocket booster used.
http://www.nasa-klass.com/Curriculum/Get_Oriented 2/Solid Rocket Boosters/RDG_SRB.pdf

 

[Bwicka]

https://www.theautopian.com/man-doe...-full-day-quicker-in-a-hybrid/comment-page-1/

https://www.ecoticias.com/en/america-hydrogen-energy/3267/

Just for the record I think a lot of technology will be introduced or come about, either by necessity, or most likely profit, in the near future.

Edit just read this article and thought it was notable https://www.ecoticias.com/en/hydrogen-aluminum-engine/3313/

I think if I’m traveling that much , just skip the travel time down a bit and rent a plane for you and your friends or fly commercial . No matter what car you choose for over 3000 miles ( not a monthly or even yearly endeavor) for most people and cars it’s going to get a little ripe!
Fly.

 

[Hunters Edge]

I think if I’m traveling that much , just skip the travel time down a bit and rent a plane for you and your friends or fly commercial . No matter what car you choose for over 3000 miles ( not a monthly or even yearly endeavor) for most people and cars it’s going to get a little ripe!
Fly.

I think you missed the point. Majority of people believe electric is free. Hopefully this article opens their eyes. It doesn't include the extra cost of ownership tires batteries etc.. it does show it's not that much in savings gas vs electric. It is possible that many are not buying EV's and that many automotive companies are switching from EV to hybrid.

I think many that drive that kind of trips also maybe pulling a trailer or even tent camping and sight seeing what this beautiful country has to offer. I don't think in any direction there are plenty of history or natural wonders to appreciate. Those experiences and sights are missing when using a plane. I look at that I was very fortunate and blessed growing up. My parents took trips every vacation and I got to learn and actually see and touch my way across United States. Some areas I might have wished I flew. Than looking back I got to see what others had to cross with horses, oxen with carts and trailers. Yes even stopping at different battlegrounds/battlefields whether civil or Indian. Besides Grand Canyon, Rockies, Smoky Mountains, Yellowstone, Glacier, Redwood trees, the Pacific, the Atlantic, the Mississippi etc etc etc.

 

[Jman79]

I'm holding out for the Maverick Mr. Fusion!

Sponsored