EV vs V8 cost difference

[Hunters Edge]

Found this interesting. It's not the Maverick but shows significant difference in cost and time to refill. Note that when they came back to the charging station about half way through the charge all 4 stations was filled. Thus anyone else needing a charge would have an increase wait time in filling because they first would have to sit until a charging station became available. (note) they did discuss being less expensive charging at home and price per kilowatt can vary, very similar to the price of gas.

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[Oscarcat]

Both my sons have 1 EV each in their household. Charging at home is easy and for daily use, very convenient.

One son took his EV on a road trip, San Diego to San Luis Obispo. He was frustrated trying to find charging stations. When he found one, it was full. Some were inoperative because thieves cut the cables for the copper content.

My solution is for EV's to carry their own cable that plugs into the charging station. The port at the charging station should have a door that opens after you insert your credit card, this to prevent simple vandalism to the outlet. A given is that at least the port at charging stations end use a universal plug as there were two competing plugs in early EV's. Now Tesla's plug is the standard. I think I read that there are adapters that turn non-Tesla into Tesla plugs.

 

[Bwicka]

Solar panels on the roof , over produce during the day and charge the ev 2 times a week while asleep.
Road trip once every couple months with the maverick , navigator, or centurian.

 

[slashsnake]

Both my sons have 1 EV each in their household. Charging at home is easy and for daily use, very convenient.

One son took his EV on a road trip, San Diego to San Luis Obispo. He was frustrated trying to find charging stations. When he found one, it was full. Some were inoperative because thieves cut the cables for the copper content.

My solution is for EV's to carry their own cable that plugs into the charging station. The port at the charging station should have a door that opens after you insert your credit card, this to prevent simple vandalism to the outlet. A given is that at least the port at charging stations end use a universal plug as there were two competing plugs in early EV's. Now Tesla's plug is the standard. I think I read that there are adapters that turn non-Tesla into Tesla plugs.

I have a Tesla Model 3 as my other vehicle. 4 years, 70k miles. I live in rural Minnesota which is pretty close to as bad as it gets for EV charging (upper Midwest coverage stinks... I remember looking at a charging app when I got my car and at the time for a Ford Mach E when they were just coming out I'd have to go East to Chicago most of a day to get west to Denver from where I live, it has improved and Ford is jumping on Tesla's network, but that wasn't good). I will say that Tesla's supercharger network is great. I wouldn't have another EV unless they worked on that. I've taken my car to Colorado a few times, Utah, Montana, Tennessee, and lots of smaller road trips. No issues with the Tesla charging situation. Though it can see if any charging stations are inoperative or full (I've come across one of each in my 4+ years now) and have you top off earlier or later.

Cost-wise, sure you can look at worst possible situations, but real world, I have about 8% of my charging at superchargers, about 85% at home and the other 7% at free chargers.

I've spent about $2350 on energy costs for 70k miles. Figure that's 3.4 cents a mile or about the equivalent of 97 miles per gallon at $3.25 gas.

Now, that's a bit of savings over say... a Prius, but I didn't want a Prius, I wanted something engaging to drive that was quick yet practical in a sedan. And finding a similar vehicle (about a 4 flat 0-60, 20+Cuft of storage, nice stereo and tech/driving aids)... Well 20mpg is more likely in that class.

My eMPG is quite a bit lower than rated, mostly because... rural MN.. Lots of highway miles, very few city miles and frozen tundra, and I have an aggressive full season tire. There are days at work when it's snowing, I'll just flip on the heater for 20 minutes or so every couple hours from my desk so I can just walk out and leave and not clear snow off my car when it's 20 below. I do enjoy not getting out to pump gas in winter though, and love being able to warm up my car in my non-heated garage without opening the doors or backing it out first.

So yes, you can find worst case stories.... and better ones.

 

[Oscarcat]

I have a Tesla Model 3 as my other vehicle. 4 years, 70k miles. I live in rural Minnesota which is pretty close to as bad as it gets for EV charging (upper Midwest coverage stinks... I remember looking at a charging app when I got my car and at the time for a Ford Mach E when they were just coming out I'd have to go East to Chicago most of a day to get west to Denver from where I live, it has improved and Ford is jumping on Tesla's network, but that wasn't good). I will say that Tesla's supercharger network is great. I wouldn't have another EV unless they worked on that. I've taken my car to Colorado a few times, Utah, Montana, Tennessee, and lots of smaller road trips. No issues with the Tesla charging situation. Though it can see if any charging stations are inoperative or full (I've come across one of each in my 4+ years now) and have you top off earlier or later.

Cost-wise, sure you can look at worst possible situations, but real world, I have about 8% of my charging at superchargers, about 85% at home and the other 7% at free chargers.

I've spent about $2350 on energy costs for 70k miles. Figure that's 3.4 cents a mile or about the equivalent of 97 miles per gallon at $3.25 gas.

Now, that's a bit of savings over say... a Prius, but I didn't want a Prius, I wanted something engaging to drive that was quick yet practical in a sedan. And finding a similar vehicle (about a 4 flat 0-60, 20+Cuft of storage, nice stereo and tech/driving aids)... Well 20mpg is more likely in that class.

My eMPG is quite a bit lower than rated, mostly because... rural MN.. Lots of highway miles, very few city miles and frozen tundra, and I have an aggressive full season tire. There are days at work when it's snowing, I'll just flip on the heater for 20 minutes or so every couple hours from my desk so I can just walk out and leave and not clear snow off my car when it's 20 below. I do enjoy not getting out to pump gas in winter though, and love being able to warm up my car in my non-heated garage without opening the doors or backing it out first.

So yes, you can find worst case stories.... and better ones.

Wow and thanks. If you can do it in MN, anyone should be able to do it. The bad charging experience I related was my son's on a road trip to cental coastal CA - to San Luis Obispo. But they are able to charge at home 90% of the time, it was that one road trip that soured him.

 

[Phimosis]

Wow and thanks. If you can do it in MN, anyone should be able to do it. The bad charging experience I related was my son's on a road trip to cental coastal CA - to San Luis Obispo. But they are able to charge at home 90% of the time, it was that one road trip that soured him.

You didn’t mention, does your son drive a CCS car? The CCS charging system is widely regarded as trash. And yeah, many reports of CCS charging stations where only half of the stalls work. This story totally sounds like electrify America’s CCS stations.

But after 100k miles of driving a Tesla, I’ve seen something like 4-5 charging stalls that didn’t work and each of the charging sites were overbuilt with like 50 chargers at each site, so waiting has never been a problem. I live in SoCal and have had my car all over the state, out into the desert, up in the Central Valley, central coast, SF, NorCal, and southern Oregon. And I have zero complaints about Teslas supercharging network. This is exactly why Jim Farley worked with Tesla to get Ford EV’s onto the Tesla supercharging network.

Sidenote: Tesla chargers get vandalized too. But they promptly fix them. It’s kind of like where one neighbor has a 6 foot high concrete fence around his house and it gets tagged by a teen gang member and the home owner is out there the next morning, painting over the graffiti and by noon, the fence looks good as new. But down the street, there’s another house where the fence is completely covered from one end to the other with gang graffiti, because the home owner is either too lazy or too stingy to fix it.

 

[Cherokee]

EV pick up truck, going out of town, Carry a Generator and an extra five gallons of gas for it, :'P

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