No 240W USB C? (Recommended USB C for Android Auto?)

[ChiliDawg]

I'm going with this: the 240w cable is meant for HIGH SPEED DATA TRANSFER (like for an external hard drive)... and the phone might severely overheat if it tried to accept 240w of charging, so the phone might have a safety restriction against using a cable with that type of thruput.

Cable is probably fine. It's just not compatible with phone charging.

I use a dongle for my wireless android auto connection - makes it easier for short trips when I don't need a charge. I do have a standard Usb-C cable in the car, but only use it for long trips when I need to charge as I go.

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[colinl]

Since it's obvious it's an issue with the wattage... does anyone know the specs of the maverick's usb c? Whats the max it can handle?

respectfully, no, not the wattage the cable is rated at. something else about the cable.

the cable enables higher power transfer, it does not provide it. the truck's ports are providing it when you're plugged into anything that is original equipment on the truck.

the truck can't provide 240w. the 2 lower console ports for wired smartphone connectivity are actually rated at 15w. you won't even see the 'charging rapidly' prompt on any phone, regardless of the cable used.

so, it's likely the cable. as to why it's the cable, who knows.

it could be the ports on the truck or the phone settings, or the usb c port on the phone. if you have not cleaned the usb c port on your phone I would advise trying that next. it's very easy with some rubbing alcohol, a toothpick, and optionally (but very helpful) canned air. if you do any kind of dirty/dusty work like gardening, it's not hard to get funk in your phone's port.

 

[PTLove]

Not all USB-C cables have data pins. Only the power pins are required, and given its a 240W cable id bet only the power pins are there. You have a charging only cable most likely.

 

[billbillw]

Why would anyone need 240W for an Android phone (or Apple for that matter) connected to a car? Most of these phones have a max charging rate of 45W or less. I have been using the plain old Samsung 25W USB-C to USB-C cable that came with my phone and it has never had an issue.

 

[billbillw]

Since it's obvious it's an issue with the wattage... does anyone know the specs of the maverick's usb c? Whats the max it can handle?

So, FYI: The USB-C port in the Maverick is not a true USB-C connection. It is a USB-A that has been pinned over to USB-C. If you see photos of the module from behind, they share a cable back to the Maverick's harness. As far as anyone can tell, it is limited to 5V and probably somewhere around 2-3A charging, whatever wattage that works out to. You won't see PD or "super fast charging." Data speed is also likely very limited and would basically be the minimum you need to run streaming, maps, etc from Android Auto/Apple Car play.

 

[Decayed]

Apple actually does have a 240W one. Though we're talking about Android Auto, so I'm not sure why folks keep bringing up Apple.

But 240 watt stuff is pretty new, and really didn't exist beyond engineering samples when the Maverick came out. It's DEFINITELY not required for Android Auto, and OP's phone may not even support the cable.

I was discussing the power supply not the cable. I didn't know they were coming out with cables rated for that much though.

I used Apple as a benchmark - the android manufacturers specs are all over the place and OP didn't specify the brand or model.

 

[Decayed]

These were belkin and rated the best cable by android authority or some such site. Recommended because of the superfast transfer.

Can't count how many top dollar cables I've had fail faster than expected. Just try other cables and see what happens.

 

[BlackMav23]

respectfully, no, not the wattage the cable is rated at. something else about the cable.

the cable enables higher power transfer, it does not provide it. the truck's ports are providing it when you're plugged into anything that is original equipment on the truck.

the truck can't provide 240w. the 2 lower console ports for wired smartphone connectivity are actually rated at 15w. you won't even see the 'charging rapidly' prompt on any phone, regardless of the cable used.

so, it's likely the cable. as to why it's the cable, who knows.

it could be the ports on the truck or the phone settings, or the usb c port on the phone. if you have not cleaned the usb c port on your phone I would advise trying that next. it's very easy with some rubbing alcohol, a toothpick, and optionally (but very helpful) canned air. if you do any kind of dirty/dusty work like gardening, it's not hard to get funk in your phone's port.

It's definitely the port on the maverick. The cables work just fine with this and other devices plugged into any other sources.

Mind you, I'm not even looking to fast charge here... or charge at all. I'm one of those neurotic people that despises the horribly fast degradation of li-ion batteries. I utilize the 40/80 charging and I'll make a flagship device last more than five years with this approach.

I'm really just looking for a reliable android auto connection. I would love to try wireless, but I assumed this would be less reliable.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

USB cables are a total toss up. Pair it with most companies not even including the necessary charging adapter for the phone you have and it's just a mess. Personally, I've given up trying to figure out which adapter does what and which cable is capable of what too. As long as I don't get an annoying message while charging, I don't care what speed it charges at.

IMHO, wireless is also a PITA. If it's not positioned exactly right, it doesn't charge. That, and instead of just the phone heating up, so does the charger. No thanks to that mess. Plus, I like my phone mounted on the dash. I've tried some proprietary setups like a case specific to a mount that accomplish the wireless charging but it's all just a PITA.

You want to use the wireless charger. Take phone out of whatever protective case you put it in AND replace the insert that covers the charging tray with something no thicker than 2-3 sheets of paper.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Not all USB-C cables have data pins. Only the power pins are required, and given its a 240W cable id bet only the power pins are there. You have a charging only cable most likely.

Also not all ports are data ports, some are charge only.

 

[BlackMav23]

Okay I think a lot of us are missing the point here.

This IS a data port as I've used it for this purpose before. My XLT does not have wireless charging, we are referring to wireless android auto (via a dongle which still has to plug into USB).

I'm not trying to charge the device in fact charging will disable once it hits 80% regardless. My only point in mentioning the lack of charging was to illustrate that absolutely nothing is happening when these cables (dubbed the best for Android auto) are plugged into the USB C input on the maverick.

 

[Eldrick1]

It's definitely the port on the maverick. The cables work just fine with this and other devices plugged into any other sources.

Mind you, I'm not even looking to fast charge here... or charge at all. I'm one of those neurotic people that despises the horribly fast degradation of li-ion batteries. I utilize the 40/80 charging and I'll make a flagship device last more than five years with this approach.

I'm really just looking for a reliable android auto connection. I would love to try wireless, but I assumed this would be less reliable.

There are several rock solid wireless AA adapters. I'd definitely recommend trying one. There are even a number of highly rated dual ones (AA and CarPlay), but these are a bit newer and lack long term track record. I've used the MA1 for a couple years now. Very happy with it but there is lots of other good choices out there.

 

[BearyArizona]

i already had a USB to USB-C cord, so that's what I connect my phone to the truck with. Not amazing charging by any means, but I can use Google Maps, Spotify, call some people, and over the course of a 30 minute drive my phone will have still gained roughly 10% power despite all the heavy usage.

 

[Darnon]

Why would anyone need 240W for an Android phone (or Apple for that matter) connected to a car? Most of these phones have a max charging rate of 45W or less. I have been using the plain old Samsung 25W USB-C to USB-C cable that came with my phone and it has never had an issue.

The 240W standard is more for laptops or potentially high power peripherals like a portable monitor.

 

[Darnon]

So, FYI: The USB-C port in the Maverick is not a true USB-C connection. It is a USB-A that has been pinned over to USB-C. If you see photos of the module from behind, they share a cable back to the Maverick's harness. As far as anyone can tell, it is limited to 5V and probably somewhere around 2-3A charging, whatever wattage that works out to. You won't see PD or "super fast charging." Data speed is also likely very limited and would basically be the minimum you need to run streaming, maps, etc from Android Auto/Apple Car play.

They have separate cables. The USB-A utilizes a USB-Mini connector and the USB-C has its own wiring.

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