Dealer wants to totally replace the transmission

[SFB]

definitely not at all. my 08 gmc canyon performs great with 162k miles and no flushes/changes at all. the manual only recommends 1 at 100k miles and thats it. since i missed that one at 100k i just let it go.

in fact fluid changes are said to damage high mileage transmissions in some cases. i suspect it's one reason for so many transmission problems among mavericks on this board.

Fluid changes won't damage them, flushes will.

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[Montana]

definitely not at all. my 08 gmc canyon performs great with 162k miles and no flushes/changes at all. the manual only recommends 1 at 100k miles and thats it. since i missed that one at 100k i just let it go.

in fact fluid changes are said to damage high mileage transmissions in some cases. i suspect it's one reason for so many transmission problems among mavericks on this board.

In some cases? You mean those cases that neglect services and now have more metal particles coursing through their valve bodies to keep the viscosity as it was before... Which could have been avoided had regular intervals been kept?

I'm amazed at the crazy amounts of misinformation in this thread. Nobody is experiencing transmission issues on this forum because of fluid changes. Nobody. Not one single person. Any and every report of transmission issues has been because of a manufacturing defect and early failure. But it's astonishing how some folks will come in here saying they have never changed fluid so that's the solution to avoid potential issues - when it's not a solution at all. It's neglect and pure luck.

Change fluids often as preventative maitenence. Don't, and you'll never get the option to avoid potential issues and when they do happen, RIP your transmission and your wallet. Fluid changes are cheap insurance and the science behind wear, heat, and viscosity is simple... So simple it translates to engine oil changes frequently but when it comes to other fluids... Apparently not. Nothing will change a manufacturing defect. But dismissing fluid change intervals because a company prints a legal minimum to cover their asses through a very short warranty is some next level complacency.

Ignorance is bliss.

30-60k for tranny fluid. All transmissions. The higher numbers being if the majority is highway mileage. 100k is to the point of no return, with or without an easily changeable filter (which the Mavericks don't have).

 

[OneAlienBoi]

No. You won't.

You constantly talk about EB owners shitting on your precious hybrid, but I reality you are the one coming in banging that drum and being the aggressor. You got the response here that you always get and you still don't understand why? Do you need it in crayon form? You are a hypocrite. Stop playing victim.

Yep,you're right, my mistake, have a nice life.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

^Narcissist to the Nth degree here...

Nah, I'm just tired of being treated like shit. On this site, and in life, so I'm giving you guys what you want, I'm giving up. It's not worth it anymore. There's no hidden message, no ego trip. Just someone who's tired of never being able to get it right.

I can't be nice to you, I can't be rude to you. I can't joke with you guys, I can't be serious, I can't say I'm right, or I'm wrong. Just like my life, no matter what I do, whatever I try to do, it's the wrong answer, so I'm just done.

Sorry for upsetting you guys, I'm just gonna go away now.

 

[710-oil-614]

Nah, I'm just tired of being treated like shit. On this site, and in life, so I'm giving you guys what you want, I'm giving up. It's not worth it anymore. There's no hidden message, no ego trip. Just someone who's tired of never being able to get it right.

I can't be nice to you, I can't be rude to you. I can't joke with you guys, I can't be serious, I can't say I'm right, or I'm wrong. Just like my life, no matter what I do, whatever I try to do, it's the wrong answer, so I'm just done.

Sorry for upsetting you guys, I'm just gonna go away now.

I deleted my previous post out of respect for you. Sounds like you're going through some tough times and I don't want to pile on.

I hope you find some peace my man!

 

[Jman79]

Well there's an interesting comparison....G spot!

I find unexpected analogies, laced with a bit of humor, really help make a point .

 

[SFB]

definitely not at all. my 08 gmc canyon performs great with 162k miles and no flushes/changes at all. the manual only recommends 1 at 100k miles and thats it. since i missed that one at 100k i just let it go.

in fact fluid changes are said to damage high mileage transmissions in some cases. i suspect it's one reason for so many transmission problems among mavericks on this board.

Changes don't, flushes do!

 

[WNYEscapee]

I've been driving since 1974, when are people going to realize we are the test bed.

Bingo! I've said for a long time, we've been building automobiles for over 100 years, don't you think they should know by now what works and what wont? Yet we have numerous recalls to address something simple like F150 door latches which freeze due to water getting into the inner door. Just how much "real world" testing did they do, and what good are these tests if they don't replicate what entire regions of the country encounter half of the year. And F-series wiper arm recalls, we can't make something as simple as a wiper arm without screwing them up? When you get caught in heavy rain or snow it's quite important to have your wipers work as you'd expect, yet there we were with the first storm; several calls shortly after opening with people asking if we had wiper arms for their trucks. I won't even go into details on the 1.5L & 2.0L engines and their faulty design. Testing should have told them to redesign the obvious flaw with the block; but there we are replacing dozens a year. Some extended warranty companies are refusing to pay for replacements now too, citing it as a known manufacturer defect.

I suggest manufacturers stop worrying about matching their competition with new tech and new upper trim levels adding to the complexity and costs of production and focus on making the vehicle reliable.

 

[SFB]

Bingo! I've said for a long time, we've been building automobiles for over 100 years, don't you think they should know by now what works and what wont? Yet we have numerous recalls to address something simple like F150 door latches which freeze due to water getting into the inner door. Just how much "real world" testing did they do, and what good are these tests if they don't replicate what entire regions of the country encounter half of the year. And F-series wiper arm recalls, we can't make something as simple as a wiper arm without screwing them up? When you get caught in heavy rain or snow it's quite important to have your wipers work as you'd expect, yet there we were with the first storm; several calls shortly after opening with people asking if we had wiper arms for their trucks. I won't even go into details on the 1.5L & 2.0L engines and their faulty design. Testing should have told them to redesign the obvious flaw with the block; but there we are replacing dozens a year. Some extended warranty companies are refusing to pay for replacements now too, citing it as a known manufacturer defect.

I suggest manufacturers stop worrying about matching their competition with new tech and new upper trim levels adding to the complexity and costs of production and focus on making the vehicle reliable.

Crazy world we live in. They (all manufactures) will continue to make vehicles as cheaply as they can. Best car I ever owned was a Pinto! Say what you want about them, they were great. I wanted to paint mine like a shotgun shell, thought it would have been funny. Ford knew the Pinto had a design issue that could cause a fire. For something like 8 bucks it could have been resolved, according to what I have read. They decided to risk it and save the 8 bucks. Thats is a lot of money in a mass manufacturing concern. Unfortunately for Ford and a few others who were burned or died from their burns, Ford's gamble didn't pay off. Well kinda! They sold a shit load of them, which is why the odds went against Ford. Over all they still made money. All these little issues with cars that could be fixed but manufacturing chooses to not. Overall if you like the vehicle you choose you tend to ignore the little shitty things that go wrong, and that is what Ford and others are hoping for. After all they want to keep selling them to you! Like I said it's a crazy world. I still am going to buy a Maverick, eventually. I like my Ranger but I don't like the gas prices, they're not going to go down much. How do you like yours?

 

[CBennett]

I’ll tell you what, all these stories about transmissions and cv axles going so quickly in the Maverick really give me concern. All the little issues are challenge enough to deal with, I certainly don’t want to end up with a $10,000 bill sitting looming over my vehicle. Never changed the transmission fluid in my Volvo throughout 165,000 miles and never once had an issue.

Glad im seeing these first time I took it(Maverick Lariat FX4 or Tremor) off my list was solely because for it to have the storage I want it would need a hard lockable tonneau cover.. I actually found one with this. now I worry because all the stuff thats been popping up lately like this.. Now look ive only owned 2 cars ive had 80K+ miles on and only 1 100K car in my life(been driving since 1985 owned a car/vehicle since 1987 and had over 30 in that time) So the reality is id probably barely see 80K in 10 years(id guess I put 10-12K on a vehicle a year.) and generally have it 60-75K miles on it before it gets traded.. but this one id have at least 8 years or so.. So when I see stuff like this i wonder.. longevity? Reliability?

 

[AutobahnSHO]

Glad im seeing these first time I took it(Maverick Lariat FX4 or Tremor) off my list was solely because for it to have the storage I want it would need a hard lockable tonneau cover.. I actually found one with this. now I worry because all the stuff thats been popping up lately like this.. Now look ive only owned 2 cars ive had 80K+ miles on and only 1 100K car in my life(been driving since 1985 owned a car/vehicle since 1987 and had over 30 in that time) So the reality is id probably barely see 80K in 10 years(id guess I put 10-12K on a vehicle a year.) and generally have it 60-75K miles on it before it gets traded.. but this one id have at least 8 years or so.. So when I see stuff like this i wonder.. longevity? Reliability?

I've owned a lot of cars, too, and just recently started buying them UNDER 100k miles. Funny enough the only strut I've ever replaced was my '23 Maverick (under warranty, it was making some rattling noise over bumps).

 

[Area51BS]

Seems like ordering and keeping an XL at home as a parts vehicle is a good idea.

 

[AlsMaverick]

Crazy world we live in. They (all manufactures) will continue to make vehicles as cheaply as they can. Best car I ever owned was a Pinto! Say what you want about them, they were great. I wanted to paint mine like a shotgun shell, thought it would have been funny. Ford knew the Pinto had a design issue that could cause a fire. For something like 8 bucks it could have been resolved, according to what I have read. They decided to risk it and save the 8 bucks. Thats is a lot of money in a mass manufacturing concern. Unfortunately for Ford and a few others who were burned or died from their burns, Ford's gamble didn't pay off. Well kinda! They sold a shit load of them, which is why the odds went against Ford. Over all they still made money. All these little issues with cars that could be fixed but manufacturing chooses to not. Overall if you like the vehicle you choose you tend to ignore the little shitty things that go wrong, and that is what Ford and others are hoping for. After all they want to keep selling them to you! Like I said it's a crazy world. I still am going to buy a Maverick, eventually. I like my Ranger but I don't like the gas prices, they're not going to go down much. How do you like yours?

There was no money savings for Ford. A recall occurred and the Pintos were fixed. A very thick fiber mat was placed between the gas tank and rear differential. Problem solved. I don't believe that was a Ford gamble to save money. It was just a mistake. Manufacturer's have always tried to keep their costs low. Nothing new about that.

 

[710-oil-614]

(been driving since 1985 owned a car/vehicle since 1987 and had over 30 in that time)

At that burn rate - you're getting a new vehicle on average every 15 months. You don't need to worry about longevity.

 

[LC48]

Hope the OP keeps the thread updated, interested in the ultimate resolution.

Mine, like many others across multiple manufacturers, was low on fluid from the factory. Took a little over 1/2 quart to top off. The common thinking is the units arrive wet to be married into the drivetrain, and the trans coolers and hoses are of course dry. It is also believed that the manufacturer expects the dealers to pick this up in PDI, but since they have made checking and topping off the levels such a pain in the ass that the dealers are not doing it.

So, the point is, check the level early and then change the fluid at some more reasonable time frame than 150k miles...

All of our fluids are so much better than in the past, really excellent oils and hydraulic fluids, but using that to push out service intervals so far is, I think, sales team/ marketing bullshit

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