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I had bought some wheels/tires and am not sure if they have TPMS sensors.
What's the easiest way to check?
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Take one down to Discount Tire (I'm assuming you have those in Canada) and they can scan it.
 

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I had bought some wheels/tires and am not sure if they have TPMS sensors.
What's the easiest way to check?
If they are Maverick (or Bronco Sport) take-off wheels/tires, install one, drive it, and see if it quickly self-learns..... Perhaps inflate to 40 psi as a test to insure it reads and in the correct location...

good luck...
 
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...drive it, and see if it quickly self-learns..... Perhaps inflate to 40 psi as a test to insure it reads and in the correct location...
I think you just answered a question for me. After I rotate the tires, does the Mav know where the individual tires would then be located? Apparently, it would. Thank you.
 

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I had bought some wheels/tires and am not sure if they have TPMS sensors.
What's the easiest way to check?
Scroll through the dash options. One of them shows when you are do for an oil change and the tire pressure. If you don’t have sensors nothing will register. They are expensive if you bought them they should have been listed on the bill of sale.
 

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I believe that TPMS valve stems always have a metal core, although this can be hard to verify since they all have a rubber exterior down to the sealing surfaces. The rubber stems are more flexible, and you can tell by feel. Be aware that TPMS transmitters operate on different frequencies (e.g. 315 MHz) and are somewhat manufacturer-specific. Also, the vehicle needs to be taught which transmitter (identified by its unique serial #) is on which wheel, so you have to use a tool like the Motorcraft TPMS-19 to activate the transmitter in each wheel after a tire rotation so the vehicle knows where each transmitter is.
 

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I believe that TPMS valve stems always have a metal core, although this can be hard to verify since they all have a rubber exterior down to the sealing surfaces. The rubber stems are more flexible, and you can tell by feel. Be aware that TPMS transmitters operate on different frequencies (e.g. 315 MHz) and are somewhat manufacturer-specific. Also, the vehicle needs to be taught which transmitter (identified by its unique serial #) is on which wheel, so you have to use a tool like the Motorcraft TPMS-19 to activate the transmitter in each wheel after a tire rotation so the vehicle knows where each transmitter is.
Humm. On my last car a 2020 ford Ecosport i bought wheels and snow tire from Tire Rack with tpm. It new with zero training where each tire was. I checked by under inflating a tire to 25 psi and drove a few miles then checked and it new which tire was low. It was Tire Racks own TPM's No idea who makes them. Only about $26 each. I plan to do the same with my new maverick i got a few weeks ago.
 

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Humm. On my last car a 2020 ford Ecosport i bought wheels and snow tire from Tire Rack with tpm. It new with zero training where each tire was. I checked by under inflating a tire to 25 psi and drove a few miles then checked and it new which tire was low. It was Tire Racks own TPM's No idea who makes them. Only about $26 each. I plan to do the same with my new maverick i got a few weeks ago.
The only possible way I could see a vehicle being able to identify the position of the TPMS sensor is either if it somehow made an educated guess based on signal strength (would need to read all four sensors before guessing based on distance to the single receiver), or if there was a receiver in each wheel well and it took the strongest signal received inside each well and associated that sensor with that tire position. I don't think either of those exist?
 

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Humm. On my last car a 2020 ford Ecosport i bought wheels and snow tire from Tire Rack with tpm. It new with zero training where each tire was. I checked by under inflating a tire to 25 psi and drove a few miles then checked and it new which tire was low. It was Tire Racks own TPM's No idea who makes them. Only about $26 each. I plan to do the same with my new maverick i got a few weeks ago.
There is a lot to learn on late model vehicles, and few reliable resources. I bought Ford's service manual for $300 (on USB) and have been frustrated that the information it contains does not address many of my questions. Your story makes me wonder if Tire Rack was able to clone your existing sensor IDs into the snow tires, which would be nice. Please ask them about how they do this and post here. Cannot argue with their price! For what it's worth, the '23 Ford service manual says that "it's not strictly necessary to train the sensors after a tire rotation on vehicles with the same front and rear tire pressures. However, the BCM cannot recognize the sensor identifiers have been moved to different positions and retains the original position information for each sensor." Too many questions...
 
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For what it's worth, the '23 Ford service manual says that "it's not strictly necessary to train the sensors after a tire rotation on vehicles with the same front and rear tire pressures. However, the BCM cannot recognize the sensor identifiers have been moved to different positions and retains the original position information for each sensor." Too many questions...
I think this is lawyer speak for....

"It doesn't REALLY matter if the vehicle gets the position wrong, as long as it still throws a TPMS warning light at the customer. The customer will figure out which tire is actually low (or super high?) when they go looking for the source of the TPMS warning and finds the tire the vehicle claimed was low is actually fine".
 

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There is a lot to learn on late model vehicles, and few reliable resources. I bought Ford's service manual for $300 (on USB) and have been frustrated that the information it contains does not address many of my questions. Your story makes me wonder if Tire Rack was able to clone your existing sensor IDs into the snow tires, which would be nice. Please ask them about how they do this and post here. Cannot argue with their price! For what it's worth, the '23 Ford service manual says that "it's not strictly necessary to train the sensors after a tire rotation on vehicles with the same front and rear tire pressures. However, the BCM cannot recognize the sensor identifiers have been moved to different positions and retains the original position information for each sensor." Too many questions...
Well the Ecosport SE it had sync 3 if that makes any difference is now gone and I now have a maverick hybrid for 2 weeks. I will eventually get wheels tpm's and snows from Tire Rack in another month. I will test them then. All I know was on the 2020 Ecosport i got 4 wheels and snows which Tire Rack mounted the snows on the new wheels and was delivered ready to go from Fedex. I put the snows on car and lowered the tire pressure in ONE to 25 psi. Then drove a few miles. Pulled out my phone and used the ford Pass app and looked at tire pressure. it showed the RR tire i lowered to 25 psi at 26 psi and the other three at 36 which I had at 35 on my gauge . After that i never really paid much attention to them. This was November 2020. Over the three winters i rotated front to back each year. Then tires were unidirectional. But I never tested them after that first time in 2020. Sold Ecosport last month when my Maverick came in, .

Oh I did ask Tire Rack when I bought them back in 2020 if I had to train anything. They said put them on car and go.
 

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I believe that TPMS valve stems always have a metal core, although this can be hard to verify since they all have a rubber exterior down to the sealing surfaces. The rubber stems are more flexible, and you can tell by feel. Be aware that TPMS transmitters operate on different frequencies (e.g. 315 MHz) and are somewhat manufacturer-specific. Also, the vehicle needs to be taught which transmitter (identified by its unique serial #) is on which wheel, so you have to use a tool like the Motorcraft TPMS-19 to activate the transmitter in each wheel after a tire rotation so the vehicle knows where each transmitter is.
I see nothing of this in the Maverick 2022 Manual. There are two pages 341 - 342 and one sentence is directed towards the owner of the vehicle stating that tire rotation is recommended . . . . . but . .. .. . it does not state that a Ford Motocraft tool is required to read or re-set the TPMS system to accurately show the tire position. As my purchase source Ford rotated my tires at my request, they did not rotate the full size identical spare. I had a shop do that. After about 1,800 miles, the front right TPMS tripped an intermittent system error. The error would not replicate or show at the service interval at the shop. Ford read the car and stated there were no codes and I should send them a cell pic of the dash illustrating the error. I did and sent this to the service manager and awaiting his reply. TL/DR I think I have a bad TPMS from the factory spare . . .

The manual shows a 4-tire rotation, not a five tire. Presumably there is a preferred spare rotation placement but anything is better than nothing.
 

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I see nothing of this in the Maverick 2022 Manual. There are two pages 341 - 342 and one sentence is directed towards the owner of the vehicle stating that tire rotation is recommended . . . . . but . .. .. . it does not state that a Ford Motocraft tool is required to read or re-set the TPMS system to accurately show the tire position.
I agree that it does not detail the process in the manual. But I can tell you that there is a process to re-learn and identify to the truck where each unique sensor is located. You do not need a Motorcraft brand tool, but you do need a tool.


I know this because I have done it myself 3 times. Twice on my 2022 (took stock wheels off and put on nicer wheels that had their own TPMS sensors in them. Then when I sold my 2022, I reversed that process), and once on my 2023 (took stock wheels off and put those nicer ones on again).

$13 "Random chinese brand" TPMS Tool on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076KL82JP


1. Turn the ignition switch to the OFF position. Then, press and release the brake pedal.


2. Cycle the ignition switch from the OFF position to the RUN position three times, ending in the RUN position.


3. Press and release the brake pedal.


4. Turn the ignition switch to the OFF position.


5. Turn the ignition switch from the OFF position to the RUN position three times, ending in the RUN position. The horn will sound once and the indicator will flash if the training mode has been entered successfully. If equipped, the message center will display “TRAIN LF TIRE.”


6. It may take up to six seconds to activate a tire pressure sensor. Do not wait more than two minutes between training each sensor or the process will time out and the entire procedure must be repeated.


7. Starting with the left side/drivers front tire, press and release the test button on the TPMS tool. The horn will sound briefly to indicate that the tire pressure sensor has been recognized by the vehicle.


8. Within two minutes of the horn sounding, repeat the process with the right front tire pressure sensor.


9. Repeat these steps for the right rear and then left rear tires.


10. The procedure is completed after the last tire has been trained. When the training procedure is complete, the message center (if equipped) will display “TIRE TRAINING COMPLETE.”
 

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I see nothing of this in the Maverick 2022 Manual. There are two pages 341 - 342 and one sentence is directed towards the owner of the vehicle stating that tire rotation is recommended . . . . . but . .. .. . it does not state that a Ford Motocraft tool is required to read or re-set the TPMS system to accurately show the tire position. As my purchase source Ford rotated my tires at my request, they did not rotate the full size identical spare. I had a shop do that. After about 1,800 miles, the front right TPMS tripped an intermittent system error. The error would not replicate or show at the service interval at the shop. Ford read the car and stated there were no codes and I should send them a cell pic of the dash illustrating the error. I did and sent this to the service manager and awaiting his reply. TL/DR I think I have a bad TPMS from the factory spare . . .

The manual shows a 4-tire rotation, not a five tire. Presumably there is a preferred spare rotation placement but anything is better than nothing.
Yes, the owner's manual is terribly ambiguous in many places. They want you to go to the dealer for everything. I thought it was interesting that p.349 of the manual shows 4-tire rotation (reverses direction), and p.355 states clearly that even the full size spare is for temporary use only. The manual states on p.354 that you should expect to see a TPMS malfunction warning while running with the spare.
If you rotate your tires without performing the "Sensor Location Calibration" procedure, you may never know there's any issue until one tire gets low and you find out it's not where the display said it was. Arguably, this is no big deal. I'm pretty sure that tire shops do the Location Cal. procedure correctly all the time. In CA I think it's illegal for them to let you leave if your TPMS is complaining. (LOL) The Maverick service manual (sold by Helm on USB for Windows) describes a procedure whereby you can manually activate the tire location training mode by using the brake pedal and cycling the ignition switch. Then you use Ford TPMS tool #204-D081A to activate the transmitter in each tire. This tool is expensive but it does many things, and the location training function can be done by the cheaper Motorcraft TPMS-19 tool or its clones available on Amazon. I've done this procedure once on my '23 XLT just to test it out and the system behaves as the service manual describes, so I plan to repeat this every time I rotate my tires.
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