CHECK WITH YOUR DEALERS!!!!!

[Gottahavmav]

I can tell you that the typical sales person cannot even access the information needed to tell you anything about your order status. Sales managers can...but even some of those are NOT good with the internal workings of Fords Concepts type programs. Meaning they won't or don't want to take time to go into them. If lucky enough to have a sales person that has this access, you can get REAL information. This can be order status...but if the sales person cares they can tell you about other similar orders and are they being built or not. Many of the true Fleet sales staff will have this info access, some old school dealers will allow some of their staff access too.
When calling Ford Customer service....you will find they have limited access to information. They CAN push you toward a supervisor if there seems to be a legitimate problem. But access to those who really can tell you what is happening is usually very limited. While we think our order is the most important thing in the world...when you have tens of thousands of orders to be juggled there comes a time when they just cannot spend time on every aspect of the order.
There is another level to this that does not get mentioned. A bit of politics involved. The Ford Dealer Rep that takes care of that particular Dealer WILL know more about what can or cannot be built, get done, or be hurried up than the computer information available. Always good to befriend them, even as a sales person!

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[AntD]

Im confused. So you are saying Ford already knows what orders they are going to build for every dealer for the entire 2023 model year? Doesn’t sound right to me.

 

[FischAutoTechGarten]

absolute best reply that this thread deserves.

 

[Jayna]

The allocated orders

Santa cruz offers a hybrid?

 

[KevCuRaoi]

The only thing for sure is that SOME dealers took way more orders than they had allocations for. Those orders will most likely not be built as MY 2023 vehicles. What does this mean? Simple, if your dealer has an annual allocation of say 125 Mavericks for MY 23, and your dealer took 150 orders, then they over ordered. If your order is # 135 for your dealer, does that mean you won't see your truck? Not exactly. If your dealer ordered 120 Hybrid, and only 30 EBs, likely they will see all of their EBs. If you ordered an EB, you stand a good chance of seeing your truck. If you ordered hybrid, (like me), your chances could be slim to none, (and Slim might be out fishing). We'll all have to wait and see depending on our individual circumstances.

One issue is that Ford didn't tell dealers what their "estimated allocation" numbers would be until after the order banks opened. Most found out the last day or two order banks were open.....and some weren't told until after order banks had closed.
Ford told dealers that they would still be monitoring the order banks for retail orders.....

So, I think that most EB orders will be scheduled. We know that it is impossible for all hybrid orders to schedule. There will be extra production capacity for EBs.....those will end up as dealer stock (which will take up some of the dealership's allocation).

 

[Ponyprez]

Hey guys!
I've got some shitty news... My sales rep at my local Ford was being a bit evasive over the phone so I went in person to see if he had any updates on my order, AND BOY DID HE!!!! Ford is allocating only a percent of all orders PER DEALER, and a tiny amount of those produced ordered are going to be hybrids. Here's where I got pissed:
If your order is not one of the above mentioned orders, your "Bumped" to next year's order lot!!!! So they're canceling your 2023 order and will recreate that order for next year, when the order banks open. I wasn't told this automatically, and basically had to pry that info from my dealer's sales rep. If your still waiting, GO ASK!!

So now that I'm not getting a Maverick, I'm gonna get myself into a Hyundai Santa Cruz. Your thoughts are always welcome

I understand, my dealer has not provided any information or returned e-mail and rep wasn't in last visit. I will wait patiently for a response and if I get bumped I will get my deposit back. 2 years of trying is enough and supply constraints excuse is getting old.

 

[Ponyprez]

Santa cruz offers a hybrid?

Not yet but I hear it is in the works. Maybe if full electrics (which at this time are not truly feasible) were not the priority then maybe we would see more hybrids being made as they use so much less raw materials.

 

[TheSEARCH]

I still think it stinks that Ford cant figure out a way to cancel some orders in the next few months they know they cant build. Maybe by canceling orders at dealers that are way over there yearly allocation. I would rather know my order wont be built for 2023 than be strung along then when it hits November 2023 they say any Mav not yet given a vin wont get built in 2023.

Maybe just maybe Ford thinks it can fulfill all hybrid orders ? I know highly doubtful. My understanding is that ford itself I think in MI builds the Ecvt which is the guts of the hybrid and its not that they don't have the capacity but lack of parts and feel that might change during 2023 ? just spit balling.

 

[garrlker]

The mods are to keep hateful content and spam off the forum. If we banned unsubstantiated information, there would be no forum. We might as well just read the Ford press releases.



Well, all these sudden hybrid orders at Long-Lewis makes me feel better. I thought I was having to fight ~110 other EB orders.

Is that Long Lewis in Decatur? I've got an EB order with them too. I actually just got the production email last Thursday about it as well.

 

[commadorebob]

Is that Long Lewis in Decatur? I've got an EB order with them too. I actually just got the production email last Thursday about it as well.

Long Lewis in Prattville. My dealer has be very careful to under promise and is stick with his "late spring" talking point despite the fact that, as an EB, that should be the latest for the last one.

 

[scotty]

Let me fix it for you.

"Ford is allocating only a percent of all orders PER DEALER" = Ford is allocating as many production slots as they have capacity for. They are distributing those allocations via a disclosed formula that takes into account prior sales volume.

"A tiny amount of those produced ordered are going to be hybrids" = Ford knows how many hybrid engines/drivetrains they are going to have available. They predict it will be roughly 30-35% of the total production. They have disclosed this. Not a secret.

"If your order is not one of the above mentioned orders, your "Bumped" to next year's order lot" = Wellllll.....yes and no. Ford has said there will be no roll-overs from 23 to 24 model year. So you would need to re-order a 24 when the order banks open.

"They're canceling your 2023 order and will recreate that order for next year, when the order banks open." = See answer above. They (your dealer) should not be canceling anything right now. Your dealer should sit and wait and see what happens with production. Your dealer has no idea if YOUR Maverick will be selected to fill one of their allocations. None of us will know the final answer until Ford has issued the last VIN/scheduled for the last day of production. We wont know that for a few months from now at least.

What is Ford's logic for that policy by preventing those who weren't fortunate enough to have their 23 builds carried over to 24?

If Ford carried out that policy then it could potentially occur with the same customer, that not only didn't get his truck built for a 24 carry over but it could happen again in 25 if he ordered again i in 24 for the 2005 year.

I don't think the Ford policy exists so they didn't lose money for a carry over. Because the carry over price could be increased for the 23 to 24 carry over at buyer's consent.

Maybe Ford monitors the threads in the forum in order to determine what policies are established.

 

[scotty]

I'll again say, if Ford really does have a glut of hybrid orders they truly cannot build and nowhere near the EB orders they can build, wouldn't it make sense for them to open a brief window for dealers to change some hybrids to EB IF that's what the customer wanted? I mean, I won't, I want and need my hybrid, but some would and there seems to be zero downside for Ford to allow it.

Thats a valued thought

 

[paneubert]

What is Ford's logic for that policy by preventing those who weren't fortunate enough to have their 23 builds carried over to 24?

If Ford carried out that policy then it could potentially occur with the same customer, that not only didn't get his truck built for a 24 carry over but it could happen again in 25 if he ordered again i in 24 for the 2005 year.

I don't think the Ford policy exists so they didn't lose money for a carry over. Because the carry over price could be increased for the 23 to 24 carry over at buyer's consent.

Maybe Ford monitors the threads in the forum in order to determine what policies are established.

I think Ford was just setting the expecations low for roll-overs so that they have the option to not roll anything over. If they DO decide to have some sort of roll-over process between 23 and 24 model year, it would be a "gift" to us all since they can say "Hey, we originally said we would not help you out with a roll-over. Now are are helping you out, so stop complaining."

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