Paint total crap on the Maverick

[icegradner]

The other day I say an 09 Ranger painted completely in black bed liner. No chips there.

Wonder if there anything left of a wash mitts when it gets cleaned.

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[stats]

Sorry to hear about the paint chips. Pretty crazy that a fluorescent light shard could do that--that is some thin glass to begin with. Maybe the metal end caps are guilty.

I've got 9000+ miles. no chips anywhere. The Hot Pepper Red does cost extra for multi-stage paint and clear coat, but so does Alto Blue. I restore cars, and (sadly) have had issues many times with paint chipping even on really expensive paint jobs. It can be caused by poor prep, paint formulation, improper primer, post-paint baking/setup, and the weather conditions when paint is applied/curing. Unlike a local body shop, you would think in a major auto brand factory these are extremely controlled variables. Maybe not? Or maybe pushing production numbers beyond forecast has found its weak link in the manufacturing process.

 

[Renho17]

Ceramic coating will do little to nothing to avoid chips. Minor scratches…..yes. Impacts…..no. Only PPF will do that.

I used P&S Inspiration on mine. Someone opened their door and hit my Mav. Left a white mark. I put water on a rag and the mark wiped right off. I am going to say I think my coating saved me.

 

[710-oil-614]

Not a bad idea.

Please please please do not pay someone to ceramic coat your Mav. You can do it yourself and achieve the same (if not better) results especially if you take the time to clay bar it ahead of time.

As others have pointed point - Ceramic coating does nothing to make the paint more durable or resistant to scratching or chipping. It's a hydrophobic coating that repels water, dirt, and mud. So your paint does get dirty it cleans off easy and looks great.

Ceramic coating doesn't even assist or help with UV protection (the primary cause of oxidation in a clear coat finish) BUT it resists oxidation so well that it doesn't really need to.

I do agree with the PPF on leading edges or high traffic areas of your car (Door sills, rocker panels, leading edge of hood, bumper potentially).

That being said - ALL new vehicles have cheap paint. That $57k Model 3 in my profile picture doesn't have paint in the fender wells or inside the doors (like the Mav) and I have lost count of the chips in it after only 6,500 miles already AND it came with PPF from the factory!!

I wish they'd just spend a bit more on quality paint. All manufacturers.

 

[IGNIGNXKT]

I think maybe either some here have just been lucky, or had older cars when paint jobs were better quality. The last several newer cars I've had have all chipped very easily, even the last one I had (Hyundai) that I had ceramic coated. Clear vinyl if you can, and definitely get a rock deflector for the front of the hood as at least with my F-150, I noticed that's generally where rocks hit.

My experience with Ford paint is it doesn't scratch too easily, but chips like it's made to as easily as possible. Chevy definitely has MUCH better paint (they're probably the only modern company that does good paint still. Honda, Toyota, Nissan etc are all crap) but ya know... wouldn't trust the rest of the Chevy at all.

Our 2004 Ford Ranger though.. could drive that through a snow globe of rocks and she'd come out all good, haha.

 

[mjkladis]

Those shards of glass are moving pretty quickly when those types of bulbs pop so I could imagine it would damage any paint on a car.

 

[AltoBlueLariat]

It is weird that when I repair paint chips, if the chip is the size of a pin head, by the time I am done applying primer, 2 coats paint, and 2 coats clear coat I have a fix the size of a quarter!

 

[pigsareus]

I have a carbonized gray Mav and have 1 or 2 tiny chips but hardly noticeable. I also professionally install ceramic coatings and will tell you that they will absolutely help to keep your vehicle looking new for a very long time. That being said there are limitations. Coatings are not a super shield that is bullet proof. Like some have said, they will definitely not prevent rock chips. Nor will they prevent scratches, so you so need to properly wash the vehicle. But one thing that gets overlooked that is especially important on these trucks is the black plastic trim. Besides obviously the paint & wheels, etc, coating the plastic trim is a big must to keep that stuff from fading. That will be the first thing to fade and take away that brand new vehicle look.

what do you use to protect the plastic trim?

 

[pigsareus]

I think maybe either some here have just been lucky, or had older cars when paint jobs were better quality. The last several newer cars I've had have all chipped very easily, even the last one I had (Hyundai) that I had ceramic coated. Clear vinyl if you can, and definitely get a rock deflector for the front of the hood as at least with my F-150, I noticed that's generally where rocks hit.

My experience with Ford paint is it doesn't scratch too easily, but chips like it's made to as easily as possible. Chevy definitely has MUCH better paint (they're probably the only modern company that does good paint still. Honda, Toyota, Nissan etc are all crap) but ya know... wouldn't trust the rest of the Chevy at all.

Our 2004 Ford Ranger though.. could drive that through a snow globe of rocks and she'd come out all good, haha.

I have an old Lincoln Aviator - 2003 - that has a clear coat and , honesly, there aren't any chips on it anywhere. On the other hand it gets 12mpg so there's that :}

 

[commadorebob]

Please please please do not pay someone to ceramic coat your Mav. You can do it yourself and achieve the same (if not better) results especially if you take the time to clay bar it ahead of time.

I can also change my own oil but pay someone else to do it. Others may be able to do it themselves and achieve a good look. I do not have the requisite skill nor the time.

If I was looking for total protection, I would have Line-X color match the entire truck. I just want the paint to look shiny for a little longer than it otherwise would. Given I work from home and it will spend the bulk of its time in a garage, I think a coat of ceramic is a good step in that direction. I have found it is easier to start clean than to get clean.

 

[MikeA131]

what do you use to protect the plastic trim?

I use a professional only coating from System X Ceramic, but also highly recommend Gyeon Trim which you can buy online. And like the other exterior coatings, I maintain it with my private label SiO2-based Ceramic Spray Coating.

 

[bwayne]

I saw a vehicle that had some kind of film on the door edges. There was crud that had worked its way under the edge of the film that made it very visible. Is that a common issue with these film protectants?

 

[TheSEARCH]

PPF is very pricey, but can be worth it to protect a long term vehicle that you want to look its best. Klasse is just a sealant, a good one, but just a sealant. A ceramic coating is not meant to prevent any rock chips, but would be much stronger than any sealant. Also, if you do ceramic coat your vehicle, you wouldn't want to put a wax or sealant on top of it unless specifically designed for use with coatings. You're just wasting your money spent on the coating as whatever you put on top will cover up the properties of the coating like hydrophobics, self cleaning, gloss, etc. Hope this helps

As far as putting something on top your wrong. Car shows is a thing of mine. I see many top end show cars. They put wax on top of Klasse or ceramic coating. WHY Wax has a deeper luster for a really deep type of shine. Ceramic or Klasse makes it shiny and protects far better than wax but doesn't have the deepness wax does. So for car shows yes wax is on top. My experience with Klasse over about 20 years is it does protect from chips. Just started using ceramic coatings in 2020 so not sure about ceramics yet. But they seem to last longer than Klasse. Never had ANY stone chips since my honda crv 2001. Klasse did I believe protect it from them from the results i had. .

 

[Taxman100]

I did do the factory PPF on the hood and front of fenders. That's works well. The front would be a total mess without the PPF. I have not ceramic coated the rest of the vehicle as I don't believe that works for chips.

I wanted to order that, but both my salesman and the known list of constrained items has the option as one not to order. I can always have it added if I actually get my Maverick.

 

[volksnuts]

As far as putting something on top your wrong. Car shows is a thing of mine. I see many top end show cars. They put wax on top of Klasse or ceramic coating. WHY Wax has a deeper luster for a really deep type of shine. Ceramic or Klasse makes it shiny and protects far better than wax but doesn't have the deepness wax does. So for car shows yes wax is on top. My experience with Klasse over about 20 years is it does protect from chips. Just started using ceramic coatings in 2020 so not sure about ceramics yet. But they seem to last longer than Klasse. Never had ANY stone chips since my honda crv 2001. Klasse did I believe protect it from them from the results i had. .

I don’t think anyone waxes over ceramic coatings
Things don’t like to stick to a ceramic coated surface (which is the whole idea)
Unless you are speaking of toppers you can use with ceramic coatings to add to the effects
Doubtful it’s traditional wax over a coating
But I’m not expert…..
I’d think a show car would use different products in general as compared to daily/weekly driven vehicles

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