Chapman/Horsham -- 2022MY orders

[theway-yay-ting]

Yeah I wish they’d tell us what went wrong for them. You’re a 16, right?

I could be really brave and take the Lux package off my order to see if it gets me scheduled, to test the theory that all the remaining Chapman unscheduled orders are staying that way because of constraints.

But doggoneit I want my heated mirrors... still a day or two (7/8) to change my mind, right?

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[chuckles]

In our list alone, there are 21 hybrids and 2 EBs ahead of you, so that's 23 of the 58, out of the latest total of 94 unscheduled hybrids. One can safely assume there was a big spike in hybrid orders right at the 11/15 deadline, but even worst case, even if ALL the remaining 35 (in that 58 ahead of you) are all hybrids, that means there are 54 hybrids internally prioritized ahead of you, and still 16 or so AFTER yours.

I was assuming 58 of truly lesser (not less than or equal) based upon PC12=June, 13=July, 14=Aug... @skadizzle=16. This brings the number down from 23 when based upon PC rather then order date and factoring (i.e. *4) seems more or less appropriate. It is really quite a (non-believable) quirk that we don't record Aug lariats and Sept xlts.

Fun with numbers. Enjoy because none of us are getting scheduled! Happy New (model) Year to all.



*sigh*

 

[yb98]

did horsham post anyything about under invoice discount for next year?

 

[MLowe05]

I am still a priority 16. I also looked back on my order sheet and it actually has 10/30 on it. That is when she submitted it, but I didn't submit the signed Dora back until 11/2. Never asked Ford what date they have in their system so its one of those dates.

My order date is 10/5 and I am also a 16. So there must be many orders from June-Sept ahead of us. I think we're getting rolled over.

 

[MLowe05]

did horsham post anyything about under invoice discount for next year?

Yes, they still plan to do 3% under invoice.

 

[theway-yay-ting]

My order date is 10/5 and I am also a 16. So there must be many orders from June-Sept ahead of us. I think we're getting rolled over.

I’m still not convinced that regional/corp scheduling decisions are strictly honoring dealer-set priority rankings.

In either case, I hope you get what you wish for (a late MY22 build date or a rollover).

 

[Bill]

Hey All, just wondering who still has orders pending with Tom/SteveB at Chapman Horsham. There are about 180 or so of us. With a list, we might be able to see our position in a first in, first out queue. So, add you vehicle and order details (and update with changes please).

( This thread (my post) is not meant to throw shade on Chapman. They have been upfront with me, personally. The extended delivery I am now seeing is inline with expectations at time of order. I appreciate the pricing strategy they offered with the upfront knowledge of delivery unpredictability. )

Edit: Summary July 3
@theway-yay-ting is maintaining scheduling rates in here . Quite curiously, at the time of this edit, we have gone 11 weeks having only two orders schedule.
This is no where near all of the orders (of course) but those who reported recently.
Smiley faces represent scheduled (or built) orders. The lack of a smiley; well that is obvious.
2 mavericks have reportedly been scheduled this week; but without knowing who, no smiley faces have been added.

​	Hybrids​	​	​	​	​	Eco​	​	​	​
​	XL​	XLT​	Lariat​	FE​	​	XL​	XLT​	Lariat​	FE​
June​	​	1​	​	​	June​	​	​	​	​
July​	​	6​	​	​	July​	​	​	​	​
Aug​	​	7, 2​	1​	​	Aug​	​	​	​	​
Sep​	​	​	​	​	Sep​	​	​	​	​
Oct​	1​	3​	2​	​	Oct​	​	2​	​	​
Nov​	1​	​	2​	​	Nov​	​	, 1​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	Dec​	1​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	Jan​	1​	1​	2​	​

Detailed lists

Hybrid ​	​	​	​	​
​	XL​	XLT​	Lariat​	FirstEdition​
June​	​	6/19/21 @Yar Lux, 360​	​	​
July​	​	7/6/21 @Bulldog Lux, 360​	7/21/21 @adawalli Lux, 360, moonroof built 3/31 ​	7/16/21 @PaidEMS Lux, 360 built 4/13 ​
​	​	7/8/21 @BobS Lux, 360​	7/23/21 @Hammey13 Lux, 360 built 3/31 ​	7/24/21 @TheShark Lux, 360 built 4/19 ​
​	​	7/13/21 @maverick92 Lux, 360​	​	​
​	​	7/20/21 @psu4lif Lux, 360​	​	​
​	​	7/27/21 @yakefu Lux, 360​	​	​
​	​	7/27/21 @Peps Lux, 360​	​	​
Aug​	8/17/21 @Tailender moonroof, hitch built 4/6/22 ​	8/2/21 @Ken_Ohki Lux, 360​	8/23/21 @brokemonky 360​	8/16/21 @Tylorious Lux, 360 scheduled 6/20 ​
​	​	8/11/21 @cougarman Lux, 360​	​	8/19/21 @jennifer1162 Lux, 360 built 4/11 ​
​	​	8/14/21 @dp4616 (poverty) hitch scheduled 5/9/22 ​	​	​
​	​	8/16/21 @Noah (poverty) hitch built 4/1/22 ​	​	​
​	​	8/18/21 @Bronco_joe Lux​	​	​
​	​	8/21/21 @abcinv Lux, 360, moonroof, tonneau​	​	​
​	​	8/25/21 @N0B0DY Lux, 360, bed extender​	​	​
​	​	8/30/21 @chuckles Lux, 360​	​	​
​	​	8/31/21 @TFL Lux, Moonroof​	​	​
Sep​	​	​	9/1/21 @abjbrtd Lux, 360 built 4/21 ​	​
​	​	​	9/3/21 @divinestriker Lux, 360, moonroof built 4/18/22 ​	​
​	​	​	9/3/21 @Leviheim Lux, 360, moonroof built 4/21/22 ​	​
​	​	​	9/7/21 @buyacar (poverty) 360 scheduled 6/20/22 ​	​
​	​	​	9/28/21 @JSKUSN Lux, 360 scheduled 6/6/22 ​	​
Oct​	10/15/21 @Atisko 360​	10/1/21 @HPR_XLT_LUX_PITT Lux, Moonroof​	10/8/21 @MLowe05 Lux, 360​	​
​	​	10/26/21 @theway-yay-ting Lux, 360​	10/25/21 @ssumass Lux, 360​	​
​	​	10/28/21 @qwengler Lux, 360, moonroof​	​	​
Nov​	11/11/21 @RonFLA 360​	​	11/2/21 @skadizzle Lux, 360​	​
​	​	​	11/6/21 @macaroni_life Lux, 360​	​
​	​	​	​	​
Ecoboost​	​	​	​	​
​	XL​	XLT​	Lariat​	FE​
June​	​	​	​	​
July​	​	​	​	​
Aug​	​	​	8/28/21 @Bossman4 Lux , 360, tow built april 25 ​	​
Sep​	​	​	​	​
Oct​	​	10/2/21 @Larry G Lux, 360, EcoFX4​	​	​
​	​	10/31/21 @Decayed 360, EcoFX4, 4kTow​	​	​
Nov​	​	11/2/21 @AeroSC Lux, 360, EcoAWD built 6/20/22 ​	​	​
Dec​	12/4/21 @Chuck Norris Eco​	​	​	​
Jan​	1/9/22 @MaineMav Eco AWD, 4K, 360​	1/21/22 @Johnkn Lux, 360, Eco​	1/7/22 @Hot Pepper Red PA 360, EcoFX4, moonroof​	​
​	​	​	1/15/22 @Baily2000 Lux, 360, EcoFX4​	​

Got my Velocity Blue XLT with Lux package on 6/25/2022 from Chapman .I had ordered it on 8/19/2021.Also got it for $1000 cheaper than I thought I would pay. Very happy with everything. Sales team was great. Very happy with my purchase and the gas milage!!!

 

[yakefu]

Don't make the same mistake I made. Doesn't seem to have helped at all.

I wonder if them moving everyone back out of priority 2 has something to do with this? Or is that dealership specific?

If everyone else is priority 2 at this point, besides Chapman, are they more likely to be scheduled?

Last time I chatted with Ford, my priority was 13. Last week after receiving the email, I dropped lux package+copilot360+moonroof. This week is not scheduled. I will contact Ford next Thursday or Friday to check my priority.

 

[Maverick2023]

I could be really brave and take the Lux package off my order to see if it gets me scheduled, to test the theory that all the remaining Chapman unscheduled orders are staying that way because of constraints.

But doggoneit I want my heated mirrors... still a day or two (7/8) to change my mind, right?

We know you’re gonna cave in the end. Just do it already

 

[theway-yay-ting]

We know you’re gonna cave in the end. Just do it already

Eh, we’ll see if @yakefu gets scheduled.

 

[BobS]

Last time I chatted with Ford, my priority was 13. Last week after receiving the email, I dropped lux package+copilot360+moonroof. This week is not scheduled. I will contact Ford next Thursday or Friday to check my priority.

I’m a Chapman P13 also, XLT Lux CP 360. would really be interested in hearing your results. Thanks for posting!

 

[MLowe05]

I’m a Chapman P13 also, XLT Lux CP 360. would really be interested in hearing your results. Thanks for posting!

I can't think of any reason a July 8 order would be at a 13. That begs the question.. did they even get entered into ROVP correctly?

 

[skadizzle]

I can't think of any reason a July 8 order would be at a 13. That begs the question.. did they even get entered into ROVP correctly?

Only way I can see is if they have THAT many June orders outstanding and have them 10-12. Still shouldn't be any reason there are ANY June, July, August or September orders still unscheduled, but that's Ford.

 

[theway-yay-ting]

I can't think of any reason a July 8 order would be at a 13. That begs the question.. did they even get entered into ROVP correctly?

I know that Tim Bartz had always mentioned that when making changes to an order, the dealers could get them out of Priority 2 (to Priority 10-19), make the changes, and then had to reach out to the region and/or brand manager to get them moved back to Priority 2. Is it possible that when Chapman re-prioritized that this last part didn't get done, and thus the region is just skipping them all as far as scheduling decisions?

@fordvideoguy our dealership updated priority numbers awhile back in an attempt to ensure that the earliest orders got scheduled first. However, it seems that every member who has reported here (even June/July orders!) is still sitting at dealer-assigned priorities (12 or 13 for the early orders, 15-16 for us later folks).

Do you know of any reason why none of those early ones would have been subsequently moved back to Priority 2 after the dealer updated the dealer assigned priorities? Is there some explicit action the dealer would have needed to take to get the region to look at them again? Even the very oldest order (6/19) was still sitting at 13...

 

[theway-yay-ting]

Only way I can see is if they have THAT many June orders outstanding and have them 10-12. Still shouldn't be any reason there are ANY June, July, August or September orders still unscheduled, but that's Ford.

Also shouldn't be any reason that any Jun/Jul orders are not in Priority 2 at this point...

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