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Protection film works- Ceramic just sounds like fancy wax advertising - Dunno
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Well, here's another person who knows absolutely zero about the process and ceramic coat, but pretends they do.... LOLSmartest thing you ever said. Total gimmick.
Protection film works- Ceramic just sounds like fancy wax advertising - Dunno
Naw I'm good but thanks -)Please take time to research. Wax and ceramic coat are 2 completely different things.
A quick example, car wax can be removed with almost everything, right?
True, quality ceramic coat generally cannot be chemically removed, and needs to be mechanically removed..
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Think about this when there is an accident and the insurance company says ... 'hey' ... and you gotta fork out some bucks because ....True, quality ceramic coat generally cannot be chemically removed, and needs to be mechanically removed
Most before and after photos of these "ceramic" jobs are useless. Staging and selective use of a polarizing filter coupled with some creative post-processing are evident in most of these photos.No before and after pics? What's the difference.![]()
Ceramic coating wouldn't replace a clear coat. Don't let folks oversell you on how it armors the paint because it's so much harder, etc. (you'd want PPF for a more sacrificial layer like that) But it does help smooth the outer layer to be exceptionally hydrophobic and shiny while acting as a very durable extra layer of protection against the usual light abrasives and chemicals. So you can view at as "just like fancy wax" if you want but it's designed to last in place for a few years. Nor is it automatically bunk because dealers overcharge to apply it. Doing it yourself can be under a hundred bucks or so.But ... I thought Clear Coat what the answer to all this? If not Clear Coat should be abandoned and Ceramic Coat the standard?
You are right in the fact that ppf is more protection and a layer against the elements.Ceramic coating wouldn't replace a clear coat. Don't let folks oversell you on how it armors the paint because it's so much harder, etc. (you'd want PPF for a more sacrificial layer like that) But it does help smooth the outer layer to be exceptionally hydrophobic and shiny while acting as a very durable extra layer of protection against the usual light abrasives and chemicals. So you can view at as "just like fancy wax" if you want but it's designed to last in place for a few years. Nor is it automatically bunk because dealers overcharge to apply it. Doing it yourself can be under a hundred bucks or so.
There is zero issue with body or paint repair with ceramic coat, any surface effected would need to be stripped and sanded irrespective of ceramic coat or not.Think about this when there is an accident and the insurance company says ... 'hey' ... and you gotta fork out some bucks because ....
I will stick to keeping the car hand washed and using a chamois to dry it and spraying off underneath as much as I can in the winter, NEVER doing that back to front since that shoves salt and crud into the weep holes.
Thank youMost before and after photos of these "ceramic" jobs are useless. Staging and selective use of a polarizing filter coupled with some creative post-processing are evident in most of these photos.
Hint: The untreated areas are tale-tale (e.g. glass and tires), amount of cloud cover (more detail to reflect), pushed HDR and other post-processing "glow" effects.
I applaud the OP in this thread for what looks like an unmolested photo of a shiny truck.
That be good. Given the word "ceramic" I was thinking it is something like ceramic pots and stuff that is baked on.There is zero issue with body or paint repair with ceramic coat, any surface effected would need to be stripped and sanded irrespective of ceramic coat or not.
In the case of ceramic auto coatings, the ceramic "cures"/hardens when it is exposed to oxygen. There is also a "carrier" in the mix that evaporates extremely fast. In general a ceramic auto application involves applying it and then almost immediately wiping off the excess as the carrier evaporates or "flashes" (as the cool kids call it). I know at least for the mid-range "do it yourself" varieties such as Gyeon Q² CanCoat EVO, you have to be careful to keep the container sealed super tight between uses since it will literally turn into a solid block if exposed to oxygen for long. If you dont clean out the spray head after each use, that will also cement up and be unusable.That be good. Given the word "ceramic" I was thinking it is something like ceramic pots and stuff that is baked on.