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FYI. Looks like 2.5 Hybrid owners need not fear 2.0 Ecoboosts on the streets.

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This is some motor Trend data from last month. I just got around to seeing it today.

The far two right columns are mine.

EB with 4k has a gear ratio advantage on take off versus a non 4K EB. The 0-40 mph lead would therefor be smaller without it.

Hybrid is 0.5 seconds quicker 60 to 80mph and 0.2 seconds quicker 40-70 mph which leads to the 45-65 mph 0.1 second that MT stated.

Who would have thought the hybrid would win a 40 mph roll race to 90 mph by 0.4 seconds!

This 4k EB ran the 1/4 mile in 15.4 sec at 88.9mph
The Hybrid ran the 1/4 mile in 15.9 sec at 89.7mph

That's awesome for us.

I do believe the non-shifting eCVT gives a large advantage to the hybrid.

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I don't think most people are really concerned with this, most people going with the ecoboost are doing so for either the AWD option or in my case, the 4k towing capability. I did spend a day driving the Hybrid model and I made mention of the fact that the on paper numbers don't do it justice at all and I'm wondering if Ford is under reporting the power numbers in hopes to push more people to the more profitable ecoboost engine option.
 
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I don't think most people are really concerned with this, most people going with the ecoboost are doing so for either the AWD option or in my case, the 4k towing capability. I did spend a day driving the Hybrid model and I made mention of the fact that the on paper numbers don't do it justice at all and I'm wondering if Ford is under reporting the power numbers in hopes to push more people to the more profitable ecoboost engine option.
My point is more so for us hybrid owners. Hybrids for the most part have been slower. Then consider the fact that the Ecoboost engine brings a $1k premium makes the hybrid's performance in comparison a nice surprise.
 

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Pretty cool to know. Although EcoBoosts are far more capable of being tuned to 300+ hp assuming you want to void your warranty.
 

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I like that they made the Hybrid strong, now they just need to get it in AWD form and flush out any bugs and I'm interested. Maybe throw a bigger electric motor in for fun :) I was watching a new video of a Rivian towing 8k up a mountain and it was insane how much power it had, it was outrunning an empty Ram following it, just gotta get the batteries and charging figured out for decent range.
 

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All it takes is 91/93 octane gas to wake the EB up to it's full potential, then it's game over vs the hybrid. On 87 gas, the EB PCM will cut timing significantly, to the tune of 15-20 HP.
 
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All it takes is 91/93 octane gas to wake the EB up to it's full potential, then it's game over vs the hybrid. On 87 gas, the EB PCM will cut timing significantly, to the tune of 15-20 HP.

What makes you think the test wasn't done with premium gas?
 
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That's not how it works. The current 2.5L engine isn't even strong enough to power the traction motor to its full potential.

"Output jumps from 88 kW (118 hp) and 149 lb-ft of torque in the 2021 Ford Escape to 98 kW (131 hp) and 173 lb-ft. But the Maverick's motor power is actually pegged at 126 hp because the 2.5-liter engine's speed is limited in this application, such that the engine and motor-generator can only muster 94 kW of juice to feed this motor. Now, someday a PHEV variant could fix that (keep reading). "

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-ford-maverick-hybrid-motor-technology/
 
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Correct while regen is part of it the engine also has to be able to efficiently recharge the battery/energize the traction motor and provide power to the drive wheels.

You can achieve better MPGs by driving it like it's weaker than it is which means accelerate very slowly.
 

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Note:. If you are wanting to be accurate in calculating miles/gallon in the hybrid you will have to adjust +/- for difference in the SOC of the HVB from what it was when you start the trip! The shorter the trip the greater the adjustment will be.🤗
 
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Note:. If you are wanting to be accurate in calculating miles/gallon in the hybrid you will have to adjust +/- for difference in the SOC of the HVB from what it was when you start the trip! The shorter the trip the greater the adjustment will be.🤗
For that reason MPG per tank is the more accurate way to quote hybrid mileage. Manually calculated at the pump is even better.
 

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A good comparison video

 

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