This will be the last Ford I buy

[Carlitos_92]

Honda hybrids have the same battery charging issues Ford has, their V6s were recalled for exploding, and their 9 speed transmission (a ZF model) has the same non serviceable filter BS that Ford has with the 8f35; and their 10 speed is now failing at 60-80k miles with no repairs possible, just a $10k replacement. Toyota's CVTs in their traditional gas cars are just as unreliable as the Nissan equivalent, the Rav 4's interior is a cheap chintzy mess that rattles like a poorly built maverick, and their 10 speed transmissions and the new 3.4L V6 are exploding time bombs. And cheap plastics galore! So much broken trim.....

And Toyota these days is riding HARD on that reputation. Their service and sales departments are downright sickening to deal with, I'm talking Kia tier nonsense.

And wanna talk software? The maverick's features at least WORK. For honda, that's a suggestion, their IT is a decade behind and it shows in their sensors and how crude their safety tech feels compared to the Fords. Dad's Ridgeline did not impress me at all in how it actually operated. Looked good on paper, but felt like a 2010 honda in practice. Toyota meanwhile loves subscriptions for things Ford gives for free, like the phone connectivity and remote start.

That green grass? It's been spray painted and the masses have deluded themselves into thinking the paint is natural for healthy lawns.

Is your nickname "The Lantern?" Because that sure is a lot of gaslighting.

My first new car was a Honda, and I've owned several more, plus two motorcycles over the last 30+ years. Probably have put 500,000 miles on all of them combined, and I personally wrench on all of them. I guess my experience has been great because none of them were a CVT.

And for the record, in 10 years I don't think I ever had to "reboot" my Acura head unit. Wouldn't have known how even if I needed to. Whereas I have muscle memory on how to do a hard reset in my Maverick.

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[Cherokee]

If it works for you, that's what matters.

Will it hold in liquids, like blood, or is it mainly for damp animals, clothes, etc..., in terms of moisture?

My boy don’t bleed. He’s faster than you can imagine. He don’t pee In The truck, He’s fully truck broken.
He’s all Boy, three now but this picture was at 2 years and three months old.

He keeps his balls. Big Dogs need the hormones.

At his 2 year annual the vet said the last time he saw a K-9 physique like this was on a police dog.
He Eats Meat.
And I have the honor of running in the Forest with him.
He can out climb me even in a scramble.

Oh and he’s dam proud of that Angel on his chest.

So far water proof. I spilled my Gatorade, no problem, mopped right up.

 

[First Sergeant]

It's actually called Connected Touch Radio, not Sync at all.

Yeah, I could not remember the actual name, so I borrowed a "nick name" I had heard on here somewhere. Whatever they call it, it is not horrible but definitely not a refined nice setup. I'm so deaf these days it doesn't matter much. Ha!

 

[Ohio44890]

My boy don’t bleed. He’s faster than you can imagine. He don’t pee In The truck, He’s fully truck broken.
He’s all Boy, three now but this picture was at 2 years and three months old.

He keeps his balls. Big Dogs need the hormones.

At his 2 year annual the vet said the last time he saw a K-9 physique like this was on a police dog.
He Eats Meat.
And I have the honor of running in the Cherokee National Forest with him.
He can out climb me even in a scramble.

Oh and he’s dam proud of that Angel on his chest.

So far water proof. I spilled my Gatorade, no problem, mopped right up.

I like that dog

 

[Tbone289]

Yeah, I could not remember the actual name, so I borrowed a "nick name" I had heard on here somewhere. Whatever they call it, it is not horrible but definitely not a refined nice setup. I'm so deaf these days it doesn't matter much. Ha!

It's standard Android Auto/Apple Carplay and the experience is highly reliant on the phone it's paired to.

But I'm unsure why any of that matters considering that the OP has a Lariat with Sync 3.

 

[Darthie]

This will be a long post so feel free to skim through or skip.

I wanted to love the Maverick as Ford finally came out with a hybrid truck and it seemed too good to be true. It is. I was one of ones interested at the beginning and placed my order in September 2021. I joined this forum in November 2021 and was pretty active on here anxiously waiting for my truck. I was also a long-time viewer of Tim's weekly YT show.

I was finally given a VIN number and build date for October 2022 and ended up being one of the vehicles whose VIN was canceled and had to re-order a 2023. I eventually got my truck in March 2023, 18 months after I ordered. When I sat in it for the first time, the backseat wasn't as roomy as everyone said, but it looked good and I already waited long enough for it so I ended up buying it. I did get a great deal on it as I had the rollover rebate and X-Plan so I ended up paying about $32k for a truck with a $38k sticker price and a mark-up value of around $45k at the time.

My initial plan was that this truck would hold its value and I could trade it in after 2-3 years and move up to an F150 which is what I always wanted. Well, I was disappointed pretty early on and tried to trade it in after only 3-4 monhts and,at least in Florida they certainly do not hold their value. I was offered $29k for the truck. I decided to hold onto it and try enjoy it. I did ceramic tint all around, added a ceramic coat to it since everyone was doing it (that was a waste of money), added PFF on the hood and front, did a spray-in bed liner, and added some accessories to it to make it my own. The truck looks badass, I will give it that, especially when done right. However, it has had nothing but problems for me.

*Here are the problems if you want to skip*

• FIrst of all, I have never gotten the magical 50 mpg that a lot of hybrid owners claim. I usually only average about 35-37 mpg which is great, but not what I was expecting. Still for a truck, I can't complain too much. The rest of the problems though are inexcusable.
• The interior scratches if you just look at it wrong. I have two dogs and after just 3 months the interior looked worse than my Rav4 I traded in after 5 years.
• There is something wrong with the windshield design/material as it is not strong at all. I have replaced my windshield twice in the first year from rocks and I currently have a crack that I've just been living with for the last year as I don't feel like paying or taking another insurance ding.
• My windshield wiper tank was cracked or something as it was emptying out within a week of filling it up and the dealer couldn't find the problem, just ended up replacing it.
• My CV axles ended up needing replaced after only 30k miles. Luckily this was under the warranty, but they had my truck for a month waiting on parts.
• I had water getting into my cabin behind the center console and was getting my floorboards wet and moldy. I believe they said it was something with the evaporator and they replaced my entire carpet and whatever else they did. This was also under the warranty.
• The water is coming back into the cabin, but is out of warranty and they want an additional charge to diagnose again.
• The ambient air sensor broke and caused the HVAC system to stop working. Had to get that replaced, not under warranty $700
• The Bluetooth randomly decides to not recognize my phone and I have to restart the truck or remember the reset sequence for the info screen, which is annoying as it happened frequently.
• The truck will sometimes go into Deep Sleep mode and the headlights will start strobing for no reason.
• The latest issue is I am now getting a System Shift Fault when I start the truck and it won't let me out of Park. I have to turn the truck off and restart it after a few seconds.
• In the Ford app, I can't do see anything because it says the truck is in Battery Saver Mode. I did it previously, but it went away after I took it in for the air sensor issue. It's back now, probably because of the System Shift issue.

This truck has just had so many issues and many of them like the Bluetooth and Deep Sleep don't really seem to have a solution. The dealer said they can't do anything if they can't duplicate it and/or it doesn't trigger an error code and since it happens randomly, I'm shit out of luck. I wish I could get rid of it as a lemon, but in Florida, it has to be the same issue four times and since it has just been a bunch of different ones, nothing can be done.

This was my first Ford vehicle and while I was hoping to stay in the Ford family and move up to a bigger vehicle, between the problems I have had with this truck and with my dealer, I want nothing more to do with them. Because the resale value is shit, I have to hold onto the truck for another year or so to at least have enough trade-in value to get something else. I will be going back to Honda or Toyota where I have never had a problem outside of a Civic that needed a new header after 200k miles on it.

/tldr This truck is a POS and I regret ever buying it, but am stuck with it

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[Nuvolari]

2023 Lariat with Sync 3. Radio is fine. The "navigation" is the worst POS I have ever had, in or out of a car. The "voice control" for entering a destination SUCKS. You have to tell it OVER and OVER where you want to go, and it still SCREWS IT UP.
Should ever decide to use it, enter the destination BEFORE you even leave your garage. Unless you want something to do for a half hour or more.
Thank God for Garmin and paper maps.

 

[First Sergeant]

It's standard Android Auto/Apple Carplay and the experience is highly reliant on the phone it's paired to.

But I'm unsure why any of that matters considering that the OP has a Lariat with Sync 3.

My iPhone 16 works fine with the Connected touch version. I thought the Sync systems usually worked great with most phones, but that is not always the case it seems. I assume at some point a newer "system" will come out and Sync will go away? Hopefully the next generation of infotainment/radio will work better.

 

[First Sergeant]

Seems Ford isn't the only one having issues. My 2014 4Runner has a system called "Entune" It works pretty good. The built in Nav is crap and no longer updated since 2016. Here is the current system, that seems has similar problems to the Ford Sync.


Common Toyota Audio Multimedia system issues include frozen/unresponsive touchscreens, Bluetooth connectivity failures, Apple CarPlay/Android Auto disconnection, and laggy performance. These glitches are often resolved by updating the system software, resetting the unit, or deleting and re-pairing devices. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Common Issues

• Screen Freezes/Lag: The display may freeze, become unresponsive to touch, or show a black screen.
• Connectivity Problems: Bluetooth, Apple CarPlay, and Android Auto may disconnect frequently, fail to connect, or drop calls.
• Audio Issues: Sound may be distorted, low, or absent, or the system may exhibit random reboots.
• "Profile Not Loaded" Message: Users may get stuck on this message or experience issues loading driver profiles. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]

Does any other manufacturers make a system that is at least decent, or do most have issues like these?

 

[tiktokbrainrot]

Is your nickname "The Lantern?" Because that sure is a lot of gaslighting.

My first new car was a Honda, and I've owned several more, plus two motorcycles over the last 30+ years. Probably have put 500,000 miles on all of them combined, and I personally wrench on all of them. I guess my experience has been great because none of them were a CVT.

And for the record, in 10 years I don't think I ever had to "reboot" my Acura head unit. Wouldn't have known how even if I needed to. Whereas I have muscle memory on how to do a hard reset in my Maverick.

The only way that facts can be considered "gaslighting"" is if one is actively delusional.

Sorry, but Honda isnt magical. Nothing I have said about their mechanical or electrical systems is incorrect.

Seems Ford isn't the only one having issues. My 2014 4Runner has a system called "Entune" It works pretty good. The built in Nav is crap and no longer updated since 2016. Here is the current system, that seems has similar problems to the Ford Sync.


Common Toyota Audio Multimedia system issues include frozen/unresponsive touchscreens, Bluetooth connectivity failures, Apple CarPlay/Android Auto disconnection, and laggy performance. These glitches are often resolved by updating the system software, resetting the unit, or deleting and re-pairing devices. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Common Issues

• Screen Freezes/Lag: The display may freeze, become unresponsive to touch, or show a black screen.
• Connectivity Problems: Bluetooth, Apple CarPlay, and Android Auto may disconnect frequently, fail to connect, or drop calls.
• Audio Issues: Sound may be distorted, low, or absent, or the system may exhibit random reboots.
• "Profile Not Loaded" Message: Users may get stuck on this message or experience issues loading driver profiles. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]

Does any other manufacturers make a system that is at least decent, or do most have issues like these?

Most have issues. VW had all sorts of freezing problems, Chevy's is buggy beyond recognition, Chrysler's is notorious for dropping connections, Subaru's works good but likes to fail at absolute random, Nissan's is slow because its 20 years old, Mazda's barely registers as a multimedia system, BMW's locks things behind subscriptions, the list goes on.

Problem is modern multimedia systems require significant IT development work to function properly, and none of the automakers are willing to invest the time into maintaining these systems, nor are they willing to hand over full control to third parties who can.

 

[Red Eyes - Wide Shut]

Look like you got a

So does that mean you should just make lemonade.

 

[Carlitos_92]

The only way that facts can be considered "gaslighting"" is if one is actively delusional.

Sorry, but Honda isnt magical. Nothing I have said about their mechanical or electrical systems is incorrect.

Most have issues. VW had all sorts of freezing problems, Chevy's is buggy beyond recognition, Chrysler's is notorious for dropping connections, Subaru's works good but likes to fail at absolute random, Nissan's is slow because its 20 years old, Mazda's barely registers as a multimedia system, BMW's locks things behind subscriptions, the list goes on.

Problem is modern multimedia systems require significant IT development work to function properly, and none of the automakers are willing to invest the time into maintaining these systems, nor are they willing to hand over full control to third parties who can.

Lol, Ok Mr. Lantern. You come off as a teenager who is disappointed with his dad's choice of Ridgeline. I'm sorry you are unhappy with your dad. The Ridgeline is a great truck. Not perfect, but an excellent choice.

Someday when you are older and have owned more vehicles, you will be better informed and may have some experience beyond random internet snippets to latch on to. Cheers.

 

[icegradner]

Seems Ford isn't the only one having issues. My 2014 4Runner has a system called "Entune" It works pretty good. The built in Nav is crap and no longer updated since 2016. Here is the current system, that seems has similar problems to the Ford Sync.

Entune was a little strange, had it in my 2013 RAV4, but I also think it worked okay.

Modern systems are finicky, maybe they are just trying to do too much with them? They use the cheapest hardware, and push it as hard as they can to make them feel modern when they are first released. I can say a lot of not so nice things about the Connected Touch system in the 22-24 XL & XLT Mavericks, but at least the design is simple and somewhat timeless rather than trying to be trendy and flashy.

 

[Red Eyes - Wide Shut]

Recalls are one statistic. Many manufacturers such as Toyota won’t issue a recall until they are legally required to do so.

Tacoma and 4Runner frame rot was a real thing that they were well aware of and it took a class action lawsuit to get Toyota to do something. They screwed over tens of thousands of loyal customers.

I was one of the lucky ones and my frame held up long enough for the lawsuit.

I made them replace my frame instead of taking an elevated trade in value on a new one.

I agree, most manufacturers have recalls. There are statistics and consumers or NHTSA are responsible for initiating 70% of Fords. I think half are on 6 or 7 year old vehicles that have mechanical issues being caught up and the others are software in2020 to 2026 models. Quote from Farley.
All I'm saying is be held accountable and don't make excuses for so much. It's the only way to make a business fix quality.

 

[gp1200x]

My 23 Lariat has 36K. Paid about 38K...too much for this Ford. Several issues fixed under warranty. I use Waz with car screen...much better than the built in nav but requires cable..not bluetooth. Also just bought a GV70 2023 Sport Prestige fully loaded with 8K for 38K. Amazing diffetence in ride, electronics quality and workmanship. Ford better get their act together or they will be out of business.

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