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50 MPG? I Hightly Doubt that. High, sure, but 50, that's not happening.
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50 MPG? I Hightly Doubt that. High, sure, but 50, that's not happening.
I guess it depends on your driving style and the roads around your area. I routinely get 50mpg and occasionally as high as 65mpg. Right now at -10 and with winter tires and winter fuel, I'm getting about 45mpg.
 

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The calculations made by the computer in the car are almost useless if you want accuracy on a whole tank of gas. The only way to achieve that accuracy is to take number of miles driven, divided by gallons of gas used, usually best done fillup to fill up.

I can get my dash gage to read 75 MPH at times.

By the way, that internal computer, even using the Trip version tank to tank, over reports the MPG.

Yes, You can get higher mileage with Hypermiling, but when people are just reporting what the onboard computer says, they are dreaming.
 

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When driving a hybrid powered by the battery, the actual MPG at that moment in time is based on the rate of evaporation of the fuel, as it isn't burning any. :wink:
 

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When driving a hybrid powered by the battery, the actual MPG at that moment in time is based on the rate of evaporation of the fuel, as it isn't burning any. :wink:
The Hybrid uses so little fuel that it has to have a pressurized fuel tank to prevent problems with stale fuel. You can't go very far on electric only, maybe 1/2mi cold and 3mi warm. Most of the time you're using a combination of electric and gas to get down the road, and only switching to full gas engine in very rare WOT situations.
 

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The calculations made by the computer in the car are almost useless if you want accuracy on a whole tank of gas. The only way to achieve that accuracy is to take number of miles driven, divided by gallons of gas used, usually best done fillup to fill up.

I can get my dash gage to read 75 MPH at times.

By the way, that internal computer, even using the Trip version tank to tank, over reports the MPG.

Yes, You can get higher mileage with Hypermiling, but when people are just reporting what the onboard computer says, they are dreaming.
If a person drives an entire tank at 30-40 mph such as when running around town , it's possible to indeed get that mpg as an average for the tank without extreme efforts.
 

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The Hybrid uses so little fuel that it has to have a pressurized fuel tank to prevent problems with stale fuel. You can't go very far on electric only, maybe 1/2mi cold and 3mi warm. Most of the time you're using a combination of electric and gas to get down the road, and only switching to full gas engine in very rare WOT situations.
Perhaps that information will help another reader.
The conversation at the time was in regards to the potential for high mpg's in the hybrid.
Were an estimate to be derived on potential mileage until the fuel runs out based on current usage, albeit a short run, the estimate using electric drive would be skewed, just a bit.. :wink:
 

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Perhaps that information will help another reader.
The conversation at the time was in regards to the potential for high mpg's in the hybrid.
Were an estimate to be derived on potential mileage until the fuel runs out based on current usage, albeit a short run, the estimate using electric drive would be skewed, just a bit.. :wink:
That's true. Short runs can be greatly skewed either way. If the engine runs initially to charge the battery, the mpg will be artificially low. If it starts with the battery already fully charged, the mpg will read artificially high. But if it's driven on 10 miles or so stretches in the city, the mpg will be basically accurate. That's when I have gotten 50 mpg or more as I was driving back and forth across town at 30-40 mph with some stop and go.
 
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BUT !
Part of that demand for full size is simply because there are no affordable reliable options.
Then along comes the Mavericks.
Product availability is a big part of the story for sure. A large percentage of Maverick buyers (just under half, last I read?) are converts from cars/SUVs - people who don't want big trucks, but will gladly take a smaller one if it's priced reasonably. Toyota wouldn't be readying their own compact truck if they didn't also believe it's an underserved market segment.

"Brainwashed" might be an overstatement, but there's definitely a cultural component for some people to buy large trucks. How many full-sized beasts have tow packages, steel tool chests, and immaculate paint jobs because they've never used either of those things. Big trucks are an instant shortcut to being rated "M" for "Manly."
 
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F-250’s and up if purchased by anyone not working a farm or building shit, it should be
Mandatory that a pair of stainless steel or brass balls the size of apples are permanently hung under the never used towing receiver.
 

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I guess it depends on the criteria, the intended use of the truck. Love my Maverick but if I was going to tow a moderately sized camper, it would not be the best choice. If I had to pull 10,000 pounds 3X a week, the maverick is out, the Ranger is out, and even though it'll tow it, the F-150 is pretty much out - that'd be super-duty territory.

So in the big towing category, I'd be wanting something like an F-250 or equivalent with Godzilla under the hood. Unless I'm towing long distances often - then it's diesel all the way.

Anyway, I said a lot of --- nothing here. Love my 2024. I've towed, driven around the twisty roads of eastern Tennessee, many miles on the highway, and now, I'm going to give it a really good test in the snow of northern Ohio. Getting 30+ mpg in the highway, plenty of power when I need it, and so far (knocking on wood), it's doing ok in the snow. Though these Parelli all terrain tires are not really very good for snow.
 

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Bigger is not better. At 200" long, the Maverick is already at the maximum size that a small truck should be at. Any longer and it will not fit in a lot of people's garages and every small increase makes it makes it harder to park in a Walmart or Costco parking lot. I hope that they never do that stupidity like they did to the Ranger and F150, that can't reasonably be parked in a lot of places and has to be parked outdoors only.
Glad you mentioned that - builders seem to love minimalist garages. I got my house built with the 4 foot garage extension option, and it's a good thing. I have a small refrigerator, then about 2 feet to the front bumper of the truck, then at the back, I can barely open the tailgate with the garage closed. if I still had my F-150, I am not quite sure I'd be able to fit it in the garage at all.

If I had not gotten the extended garage, that refrigerator would NOT be sitting in front of the truck, and I'd probably not be able to open the tailgate with the garage closed.
 

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Mustang II was a Pinto with a very nice body style.
Though it was supposed to be a parts bin special in the first place, so I guess nobody should be shocked they brung it out as a parts bin special again. Even the holier Fox body was a parts bin special on the Fox sedan and wagon platform.
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