Would you buy an EV maverick for 25-30k?

[Surly Old Bill]

I'd pay an extra $1500 for a PHEV with a thirtyfold+ larger battery than the current hybrid. (1.1kWh?! wtf are they thinking?)

I'd pay an extra $2500 for an EV with a range extender motor allowing it to go 500 miles between charges.

But I'm cheap; half Jewish and half Scottish, so I'm DOUBLE cheap. The real prices for those two things would likely be at least double what I'd pay. Actually, quadruple because battery systems aren't cheap.

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[Escapologist]

Yah, I'd go for a PHEV, got a PHEV Escape for mostly my wife's DD and loving it. Of course now the hybrid can get 4k towing and AWD I really want that, more so than I want the PHEV so if the PHEV was back down to 2k FWD, it would not be so attractive. I was probably kind of on the fence about Mav, could have leapt off the other side to something like a diesel SUV for towing, but the 4K option firmed it up.

However, if they did a "full patch" PHEV with mucho range but lame tow, and a halfass PHEV but kept AWD and 4k tow, I miiiiight buy the halfass one, just because for my personal use just 20 miles scooting around range would be great for during week. Depending on how much differential was over the HEV AWD 4k... and depending on them being available in 5 years because if I buy a HEV this year I'll be keeping it a while. I guess I might do a 3 year to swap if it was particularly compelling.

If full PHEV Mav with 4k was available for 2025 year though, I miiight have put wife in MachE and swapped vehicles in the worst weather or something instead of buying Escape.

Speculation: In establishing Lobo as a street truck, Ford might have given themselves a path to "easy PHEV" in that there has been some reports of road debris damage messing up Escape PHEVs, not the battery which is kinda armored but a control module. But anyway, sounds like Ford wouldn't really want anyone offroading an Escape PHEV because of that. But they've kinda positioned the Mav to maybe do that a little, so ppl might expect to do that in a PHEV.... hence Ford nervous of making PHEV with same parts as Escape PHEV. Sooooo.... if they get Lobo as street only established, then they could offer a PHEV version of that.... don't pull too much of a face. They offer a higher output combo PHEV in the Euro Kuga version of Escape, which gets closer to Rav4 Prime performance, so sticking that in the Lobo would make for some fun. Think something like Lobo Max Loco Electrified, 300whp or some shit.

 

[Surly Old Bill]

I mean, electric drivetrain is FAR superior offroad (real offroad, not dirt roads, I'm talking about rock crawling). 100% torque at all speeds. For some sort of capable 4X4 version, they should offer EV 4X4 with a range extender motor. Or at least a PHEV with controls to only allow electric drivetrain (eliminating gas motor from starting up) when you're in the $hit.

 

[Gvmumbral]

No.

 

[Cherokee]

I’d not buy one because I’d like to have the ability, ‘To Go Far’ as in over the hills and far away.
My local Ford dealer bought a EV F-150 and let people drive it.
No one bought it for quite some time.
Then someone did, and returned it.
Seems it was fine until you needed a truck. Like you know, to haul or tow something.
Seems up here in these Appalachian mountains using that EV truck as a truck brought the range down well below 100 miles.
Word was pulling a trailer up our hills and mountains made for a very short range.

But if I lived in a city and had a second truck to support/backup the EV truck, well,,,
If I had that kind of money screw the EV
I’d buy me a badazz Cowboy Cadillac with a turbo diesel or some 7. Something turbo V-8 gas guzzler.

Even if the EV Mav had a 500 mile range I’d still have to worry about charging it if I wanted to travel. No thanks
The choices are simple
One vehicle only, gas or hybrid ONLY.
Extra expensive toy EV why not.

 

[Surly Old Bill]

And Ford will never sell a EV Maverick for 25k to 30k. Slate announced a 27k, 20 after tax credits which are going away, but is already hedging on being able to sell for 27k and it is a POS 2 seater. Likely a Maverick EV would be 40k to 50k. The Mach E Mustangs are 40k to 55k.

I know, I know. I'm still shocked that there are actually pickups selling for more than $100k, and even just Mavericks selling for more than $40k.
Average new car price is $50k now. If I was going to drop $50 on an EV, it wouldn't be a Maverick, it would be some sort of small SUV.

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

I mean, electric drivetrain is FAR superior offroad (real offroad, not dirt roads, I'm talking about rock crawling). 100% torque at all speeds. For some sort of capable 4X4 version, they should offer EV 4X4 with a range extender motor. Or at least a PHEV with controls to only allow electric drivetrain (eliminating gas motor from starting up) when you're in the $hit.

I don't agree with your opinion of rock crawling being real off road as compared to other adverse driving environments. It's my personal opinion that attempting to climb boulders for sport and risking destroying your rig plus getting injured, is just stupid. High load electric motor control at near zero RPM is beyond the scope of most motor controls, draws excessive power and generates high heat. The closer an AC motor is to full locked rotor, the more current it draws.

There's no locking differential between drive axles in any of the current EV offerings. The electric powertrain control module attempts to modulate speed at each wheel, however, real world performance shows that this is inferior in off the road conditions.

I hope that you like roasted weiner, because delicate lithium polymer batteries don't like getting slammed in high G rock climb slips and falls and your weiner is right above the battery pack. Rock crawlers don't seem to carry lots of extra weight as I recall, so we'll be hard pressed to find heavy EV's rock crawling anyway. I didn't see any EV charging stations on any of those rock crawling trails, so you better be packing a generator. It was a nice fantasy though and thanks for sharing.

 

[Timothyd]

I don't agree with your opinion of rock crawling being real off road as compared to other adverse driving environments. It's my personal opinion that attempting to climb boulders for sport and risking destroying your rig plus getting injured, is just stupid. High load electric motor control at near zero RPM is beyond the scope of most motor controls, draws excessive power and generates high heat. The closer an AC motor is to full locked rotor, the more current it draws.

There's no locking differential between drive axles in any of the current EV offerings. The electric powertrain control module attempts to modulate speed at each wheel, however, real world performance shows that this is inferior in off the road conditions.

I hope that you like roasted weiner, because delicate lithium polymer batteries don't like getting slammed in high G rock climb slips and falls and your weiner is right above the battery pack. Rock crawlers don't seem to carry lots of extra weight as I recall, so we'll be hard pressed to find heavy EV's rock crawling anyway. I didn't see any EV charging stations on any of those rock crawling trails, so you better be packing a generator. It was a nice fantasy though and thanks for sharing.

How many people do that anyhow? Plenty of other vehicles more suitable. And, IF you did convert the Mav for that it wouldn't be good for anything else. I got my Maverick for utility and practicality and if I want to play on rocks I use my Enduro motorcycle.

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

How many people do that anyhow? Plenty of other vehicles more suitable. And, IF you did convert the Mav for that it wouldn't be good for anything else. I got my Maverick for utility and practicality and if I want to play on rocks I use my Enduro motorcycle.

I'll be thrilled when I can ride again. I was going to post my dual 8" scars, but I thought it might be too graphic. I'd like to add an Enduro to my collection. I miss dirt rides!

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

I have a '25 hybrid lariat AWD 4k, and I feel that's the best of all the "EV" small truck choices. A PHEV Maverick would be fine if it didn't loose AWD or towing/hauling capacity. You can bet Ford built prototypes and with pure EV as well.

 

[Aleks]

I'd pay an extra $1500 for a PHEV with a thirtyfold+ larger battery than the current hybrid. (1.1kWh?! wtf are they thinking?)

A 2024 prius battery is 0.9 kWh.

I would've gladly paid ~$5k above what i paid for my '25 lariat ($38k+5k so around ~$43k) for a plug-in hybrid version similar to the prius prime, with something like a 15kWh battery and 40-50 miles of ev only range.

 

[Timothyd]

I'll be thrilled when I can ride again. I was going to post my dual 8" scars, but I thought it might be too graphic. I'd like to add an Enduro to my collection. I miss dirt rides!

I have plenty of scars too. From all kinds of stuff. The Enduro i have is an old XT500 that I don't ride too much anymore. It's the one I broke my pelvis on a long time ago in an old quarry when I was invincible. I couldn't ride for months and I was pissed about that. Now, the bike i ride the most is a competent Honda NC750X that's pretty versatile. During my recent divorce I would go out and cheat death on it to preserve what sanity i have left.
Now that I'm not invincible I find the Maverick to be a great little (by present day standards, I've had smaller) truck.

 

[zen_]

I would definitely like to have 1 hybrid + 1 full EV in the household. Once the battery tech fully matures, and it becomes simpler to replace / re-manufacturer battery packs, there are really not a lot of downsides for shorter range driving. They have the potential to actually lower vehicle prices significantly too for your basic A to B vehicle in up front cost, and running cost big time.

Hard to say what will happen though. We are not making the necessary investments in base load grid power and distribution. China has also become the clear leader in EV tech, but when they do try to make investments in the US market (to build products here), even now with a supposed focus on manufacturing in the US it's less popular than bubonic plague.

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