Lane centering inop when trailer connected, dealer couldn't fix.

[m5040]

I do agree with you. Ford kind of pulled a fast one by not disclosing the fact that lane keeping was disabled when towing on the newer models.
Choice's
1. Keep the brand new 25 Maverick hybrid and suffer while towing.

2. Try to find an "software" ForSCAN workaround. That would keep the safety integrity of lights and trailer brakes if used.

3. Sell the 25 hybrid and try to buy a new old stock 24 hybrid, equipped the way you want. Or buy a used 2024

4. Sell the 25 hybrid. Buy a competitors non-hybrid truck equipped for towing with Lane control. Paying the non-hybrid increase fuel cost. (As a comfort tax.)
Options 1, 2 seem to be the only ones that won't cost a lot of extra money.
Good luck.

Yes, some choices. I have to make time to, one see if brake control circuit triggers trailer attached screen. Two, if brake circuit doesn't trigger I can work around using taillight feed wires in truck bed to power signal/brake/tail and loose the trailer light check. Use relays if circuits are too light duty.

MY reason for going to dealer was to see if they would correct it in Forescan but they trouble shot it as if ligit complaint. Maybe they are playing stupid to avoid arguments which they probably have a lot of experience in. Can the public buy those outright or dealer only tool?

Otherwise see if that Coma aftermarket AI drive will work on 25 model which is not listed as being compatible.

I have three 98 Dodge cummins ram trucks, so only bought this for fuel mileage. No need to replace this truck and I believe 25 is first year with 4k tow package (and the previous years are susceptible to an update which would remove towing with lane centering), I will develop a workaround. I usually look on these forums to see what others have done. Maybe one of the Ford techs will chime in at some point with specifics.

Thanks

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[MakinDoForNow]

Yes, some choices. I have to make time to, one see if brake control circuit triggers trailer attached screen. Two, if brake circuit doesn't trigger I can work around using taillight feed wires in truck bed to power signal/brake/tail and loose the trailer light check. Use relays if circuits are too light duty.

MY reason for going to dealer was to see if they would correct it in Forescan but they trouble shot it as if ligit complaint. Maybe they are playing stupid to avoid arguments which they probably have a lot of experience in. Can the public buy those outright or dealer only tool?

Otherwise see if that Coma aftermarket AI drive will work on 25 model which is not listed as being compatible.

I have three 98 Dodge cummins ram trucks, so only bought this for fuel mileage. No need to replace this truck and I believe 25 is first year with 4k tow package (and the previous years are susceptible to an update which would remove towing with lane centering), I will develop a workaround. I usually look on these forums to see what others have done. Maybe one of the Ford techs will chime in at some point with specifics.

Thanks

Found this 2022 post.
https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/lane-keeping-system-retrofit-install-using-forscan/

 

[Davdave77]

It makes sense that it would be disabled. Sudden moves like the lane centering can do could easily cause a trailer to fishtail and lose control. If it didn’t do it for me I would turn it off when towing.

 

[m5040]

It makes sense that it would be disabled. Sudden moves like the lane centering can do could easily cause a trailer to fishtail and lose control. If it didn’t do it for me I would turn it off when towing.

You may want to get yours looked at by the dealer. Both my Mavericks never make any sudden moves. Was there an actual visual or otherwise cause you could determine for your vehicles perceived need to make a sudden move? Both of mine operate smoothly but they are newer versions then yours, maybe they have been updated.

 

[L30n1d45]

I AM AMAZED ON HOW YOU CAN BE CONSISTENLY WRONG WITH EVERYTHING. HERE IS AI RECOMENDATION FOR COFFEE: For optimal coffee flavor, aim for a brewing temperature between 195°F and 205°F (90°C and 96°C), with slight adjustments based on the roast and brewing method.

From your same google AI result:

For the best flavor and to avoid burns, coffee is generally best served between 120°F and 140°F (49°C and 60°C)

So....

yeah. sit down and stop being childish.

I told you I wasn't going to argue with you but you just keep being wrong and acting like you're right.

 

[m5040]

You have to realize that you are easily mislead, your AI statement has qualifier words, "and to avoid burns". Qualifiers affect the certainty and specificity of a statement.

In simple words for you to understand, your quoted statement below means that it is not the optimal drinking temp, but a cautious temp for compromised people to safely handle without the risk of injury, the taste has been sacrificed to achieve this.

"For the best flavor and to avoid burns, coffee is generally best served between 120°F and 140°F (49°C and 60°C)"

Verses my AI statement:

"For optimal coffee flavor, aim for a brewing temperature between 195°F and 205°F (90°C and 96°C), with slight adjustments based on the roast and brewing method."

Just the facts.

 

[scottjl]

@m5040 - look. this is the way the vehicle is provided by ford. in MY 2025 they do not offer centering when towing a trailer. no where in the provided documentation says that it will work, in fact it explicitly says it won't. you can argue, complain and whine about it all you want, won't change reality. ford doesn't monitor this forum, and even if they did, they still wouldn't change it just for you.

so put on your big boy pants, suck it up, and move on. there are far more things to worry about in this world. you don't like the vehicle, it doesn't meet your needs? sell it and find one that does. simple. for a guy named "john" you sure come across like a "karen". 9 pages of you whineing about this is a bit much.

 

[TwoTone]

Don't forget, a tap of the brake pedal shuts the system off. So all your panic about the bad things that can happen if you continue down the road with a blown tire with cruise and LC on is unwarranted. Unless your from the generation that can't figure out what to do if the throttle sticks.

Making snide remarks about a generation while insisting on needing lane centering while towing.

Have you met the kettle?

 

[TwoTone]

Thank our court system. Mc D's having to pay someone millions for spilling hot coffee and now Starbucks looks to be doing the same. Hmmm, lukewarm coffee!

Sorry this link is through Fbook, but you might have guess that the deletion of lane centering while towing was caused by not smart drivers and can be done with complete safety if you know what you are doing:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1FpcVPsK6e/

Quoting the McDonalds coffee lawsuit shows you didn't go past the 'news' headlines and are completely ignorant on the case.

 

[m5040]

@m5040 - look. this is the way the vehicle is provided by ford. in MY 2025 they do not offer centering when towing a trailer. no where in the provided documentation says that it will work, in fact it explicitly says it won't. you can argue, complain and whine about it all you want, won't change reality. ford doesn't monitor this forum, and even if they did, they still wouldn't change it just for you.

so put on your big boy pants, suck it up, and move on. there are far more things to worry about in this world. you don't like the vehicle, it doesn't meet your needs? sell it and find one that does. simple. for a guy named "john" you sure come across like a "karen". 9 pages of you whineing about this is a bit much.

I get cha, you want everyone to lay down and let the world run over you. Out of the 9 pages, a few tell the story, sorry you don't get it.

 

[m5040]

Making snide remarks about a generation while insisting on needing lane centering while towing.

Have you met the kettle?

The generation scares me, they will one day run the country although they don't grasp basic concepts.
I guess you don't understand paying for something yet not getting what you paid for. Oh just move on, nothing to see hear. Take my money and do what you want with it.

 

[scottjl]

I get cha, you want everyone to lay down and let the world run over you. Out of the 9 pages, a few tell the story, sorry you don't get it.

lol. no. i don't think you do. but enjoy chasing those windmills... some people just aren't happy unless they have something to whine about i guess.

 

[m5040]

Quoting the McDonalds coffee lawsuit shows you didn't go past the 'news' headlines and are completely ignorant on the case.

This is getting monotonous, it was an example of how frail some people have become. Read the post, lane centering terminates when brake pedal is touched, and can easily be overpower. No danger at all using it, just someone trying to cash in and blame someone else.

 

[m5040]

lol. no. i don't think you do. but enjoy chasing those windmills... some people just aren't happy unless they have something to whine about i guess.

I see you don't even own a Maverick. Thanks for injecting all your first hand knowledge.

 

[dpequip]

I wonder if Ford got sued from somebody getting in a crash, or somebody at the company thought about it and figured it'd be a "liability" or something to keep them enabled in tandem. I agree that it definitely is odd.

Wonder if there's a way to enable it in Forscan. I've been in my truck with Forscan and it's remarkable how much can be changed. It could just be a simple on/off setting. Maybe someone who has experience with the 25s and Forscan can chime in?

Bingo! I am sure it was disabled as the result of a lawsuit Ford lost. Notice it has been disabled on a number of vehicle families which means the lawsuit may have had nothing to do with an actual MAVERICK incident. As an Engineer there are some rather interesting vehicle dynamics that occur when towing trailers and the dynamic envelope of the combined vehicle & trailer can be very large depending on many factors: Trailer Weight, Tongue Weight, Distance from truck rear wheel center line to tailer wheel center line. The lane centering computer has a mathematical model of the vehicle it uses to determine steering inputs, power application, anti-locking braking these things all work together. Once you add a trailer there is no way the computer really knows what the vehicle dynamics are. For a properly balanced trailer (Trailer weight below rated and tongue weight as specified) I am sure the lane centering would work just fine (See comments from previous model year owners) Now think about what would happen if the vehicle & trailer combination had negative tongue weight (Trailer is lifting the rear of the truck) Yes I know it's wrong but people do it (There are plenty of pictures of this on the internet) In this case when lane centering went to correct the vehicle could easily lose control due to undamped oscillation of the trailer. (There are videos of this too) Just saying Ford is protecting themselves as a business decision and we are all reduced to the lowest common denominator (That is the dumbest or riskiest person out there)

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