Lane centering inop when trailer connected, dealer couldn't fix.

[L30n1d45]

I'm not going to argue with you about coffee. You believe what you want to believe, regardless of whether you are right. w/e.

You keep going in circles, first you agree, now a wreck is inevitable. Really?? You must have feeble driving skills

I have been driving for 50 years without a wreck.

It isn't my driving skills that I question. It is the skills of all of the other idiots on the road that I worry about.

If you do get in a wreck while towing with lane-keep assist on, then you are opening yourself to a lawsuit by the other party, because you were driving/towing with a feature enabled that even Ford has decided should be disabled due to safety concerns.

Sure, you do what you want to do, but it is my opinion that it is not a good idea. Personally, I wouldn't enjoy being the target of a lawsuit because I decided my comfort was more important than other drivers' safety.

Also, your attitude and insults are just childish.

Now here you go again exaggerating that I drove without brakes but at lease it makes you believe that you are thinking.

Until I do, I have to tow the trailer with the light cord tucked in so it looks like it is connected but then dont have any lights (is is flatbed so truck lights visible)

You said it yourself that you weren't plugging in the trailer connection so that lane-keep would remain enabled.

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[m5040]

I'm not going to argue with you about coffee. You believe what you want to believe, regardless of whether you are right. w/e.

Thats the problem, you have erroneous information. Water boils at 212 degs at sea level. You can't as you said, McDs served "coffee that was over boiling temp" . You can't raise the temperature of water (coffee) over 212, at which point it turns to steam, it will never go over 212 (unless pressurized). So if you are wrong with this simple grade school example of science, you really can't contribute to a more technical discussion. It is probably not your fault as the schools are different today. Look at me, I never got the chance to learn how men can get pregnant.

If you do get in a wreck while towing with lane-keep assist on, then you are opening yourself to a lawsuit by the other party,

Anytime you get in a wreck, you have a good chance of a lawsuit, that is why we have insurance. But I think what you are trying to say is that they will try and prove that the lane assist was a contributing factor. Good luck with that approach. I say again and again, if it malfunctions, tap the brake, then it is off and out of the equation. Remember, The lane centering is slightly more then a recommendation by the vehicle to proceed on a certain path, it is easily overpowered.

You said it yourself that you weren't plugging in the trailer connection so that lane-keep would remain enabled.

And you wrote that I didn't have brakes. I will keep it simple for you, some trailers do not have brakes so keeping the light cord unplugged will have no affect on braking performance. And just an FYI, some trailers have surge (hydraulic) brakes and don't need any electrical connection to function.

You wrote " Also, your attitude and insults are just childish", I apologize, if you look back at this post in chronological order you may notice why. I just hoped for knowledgeable advice for my problem, which I did receive, but mixed in with...what you see.

 

[L30n1d45]

Thats the problem, you have erroneous information. Water boils at 212 degs at sea level. You can't as you said, McDs served "coffee that was over boiling temp" . You can't raise the temperature of water (coffee) over 212, at which point it turns to steam, it will never go over 212 (unless pressurized). So if you are wrong with this simple grade school example of science, you really can't contribute to a more technical discussion. It is probably not your fault as the schools are different today. Look at me, I never got the chance to learn how men can get pregnant.

You're arguing over semantics. The actual temp was 180-190 degrees, which is still WAY hotter than any coffee should ever be.

It is probably not your fault as the schools are different today. Look at me, I never got the chance to learn how men can get pregnant.

Also, you are still being childish.

And you wrote that I didn't have brakes. I will keep it simple for you, some trailers do not have brakes so keeping the light cord unplugged will have no affect on braking performance. And just an FYI, some trailers have surge (hydraulic) brakes and don't need any electrical connection to function.

Fair. I assumed your trailer had brakes. I'm still going to maintain that you are still being horrendously irresponsible by not running lights on your trailer, regardless of whether you have brakes on it or not. (also, running without lights is illegal in your state)

I just hoped for knowledgeable advice for my problem, which I did receive, but mixed in with...what you see.

I gave you advice, it just wasn't the advice you wanted to hear. My advice was: don't do it.

 

[Russ P]

The truck has an inclinometer so it can adjust for load/suspension height changes and I have seen no ill effects.
I get about 27 mpg with empty trailer, loaded varies with amount you have loaded and "sail" area or wind resistance.
When empty I use the "economy mode", and use "trailer" when moderate to heavy load.
Does you 25 have the tow package option? I think you will forget you are even towing if your trailer GVW is 1350, that's how well it will act.
I do not notice any change in performance from my 23 W/O 4k tow package to my 25 with 4k tow. Just comforting to know the trans and coolers are beefed up.
With 25, I towed a Jeep CJ2A for 300 miles from VT to CT with no strain.

Yes my 2025 is the XLT hybrid with towing package. When you towed the jeep what was you GPH ??

 

[jb_cb900]

Back in the day, I was taught when a trailer, without brakes, begins to sway, you do not touch the brakes (not even a tap). Let off the gas and try to hold the car straight and never try to counter act the swaying trailer.
A trailer with properly adjusted brakes will respond favorably to letting of the gas and very lightly applying brake pressure since the trailer brakes should come on just before the tow vehicle. This will action will temporaily apply more weight to the hitch.

 

[scottjl]

Again, Ford is giving you less, and charging you more. The 2025s deleted many things that the 22s-24s had like a owners manual you could sit down and read at your convienance. I hate some technology!

IKR and it made for great emergency TP when you just had to go!

 

[MakinDoForNow]

IKR and it made for great emergency TP when you just had to go!

Did not have to go until trailer sway.

 

[m5040]

Yes my 2025 is the XLT hybrid with towing package. When you towed the jeep what was you GPH ??

It is hard to say. The trip started in the hills of VT and it was about 18 (but low speed), by the time I got to CT it was low 20s. Which is still much better then a Cummins Ram on expensive diesel and doesn't get that good of mileage empty with no trailer.

 

[m5040]

You're arguing over semantics. The actual temp was 180-190 degrees, which is still WAY hotter than any coffee should ever be.

I AM AMAZED ON HOW YOU CAN BE CONSISTENLY WRONG WITH EVERYTHING. HERE IS AI RECOMENDATION FOR COFFEE: For optimal coffee flavor, aim for a brewing temperature between 195°F and 205°F (90°C and 96°C), with slight adjustments based on the roast and brewing method.

Also, you are still being childish.
AT LEAST I AM CORRECT


Fair. I assumed your trailer had brakes. I'm still going to maintain that you are still being horrendously irresponsible by not running lights on your trailer, regardless of whether you have brakes on it or not. (also, running without lights is illegal in your state)



I gave you advice, it just wasn't the advice you wanted to hear. My advice was: don't do it.

 

[Skisail]

I would love to hear the conversation when you explain to the nice policeman why your trailer lights don’t work.

 

[m5040]

I would love to hear the conversation when you explain to the nice policeman why your trailer lights don’t work.

Well a lot of thought goes into it. I can drive for hours without changing lanes when other vehicles are near or using brakes, so no visible indication of defects. You can't just drive around willy nilly like an idiot, a lot of safe driving techniques are employed. I haven't been stopped in decades, and by a experience police don't stop people for that since covid and defund the police.

But why I am aggravated is that Ford has forced me to do it. I know, enough of you have expressed your concerns. I bought a ford with lane centering and tow package, but you can't use them together.

So what happens when you bought the vehicle for specifically that purpose, to tow while using driver safety features that worked in the vehicle you just got out of before you walked over to sit in this identical but upgraded model?

To drive some of the roads you pay a toll. My using the lane centering was risking having to pay a toll to the police, it is just the cost of doing business.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

I do agree with you. Ford kind of pulled a fast one by not disclosing the fact that lane keeping was disabled when towing on the newer models.
Choice's
1. Keep the brand new 25 Maverick hybrid and suffer while towing.

2. Try to find an "software" ForSCAN workaround. That would keep the safety integrity of lights and trailer brakes if used.

3. Sell the 25 hybrid and try to buy a new old stock 24 hybrid, equipped the way you want. Or buy a used 2024

4. Sell the 25 hybrid. Buy a competitors non-hybrid truck equipped for towing with Lane control. Paying the non-hybrid increase fuel cost. (As a comfort tax.)
Options 1, 2 seem to be the only ones that won't cost a lot of extra money.
Good luck.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

I do agree with you. Ford kind of pulled a fast one by not disclosing the fact that lane keeping was disabled when towing on the newer models.
Choice's
1. Keep the brand new 25 Maverick hybrid and suffer while towing.

2. Try to find an "software" ForSCAN workaround. That would keep the safety integrity of lights and trailer brakes if used.

3. Sell the 25 hybrid and try to buy a new old stock 24 hybrid, equipped the way you want. Or buy a used 2024

4. Sell the 25 hybrid. Buy a competitors non-hybrid truck equipped for towing with Lane control. Paying the non-hybrid increase fuel cost. (As a comfort tax.)
Options 1, 2 seem to be the only ones that won't cost a lot of extra money.
Good luck.

FYI: I recently got my 2022 lariat back from independent Ford approved body shop for repair of drivers side rear quarter panel. Some things act differently. I got report after showing 0 error codes, which was good. Just noticed that now when lane stripes disappear for some distance which I have not determined how far yet, the lane centering with cruise on turns off, screen pops up with bong sounding stating lane centering is disconnected. Did not get this prior to repair. Assume that truck was updated with current software = "Do I have 2025 versions now?". I also cannot get exact versions of dash screens as before. ???

 

[m5040]

FYI: I recently got my 2022 lariat back from independent Ford approved body shop for repair of drivers side rear quarter panel. Some things act differently. I got report after showing 0 error codes, which was good. Just noticed that now when lane stripes disappear for some distance which I have not determined how far yet, the lane centering with cruise on turns off, screen pops up with bong sounding stating lane centering is disconnected. Did not get this prior to repair. Assume that truck was updated with current software = "Do I have 2025 versions now?". I also cannot get exact versions of dash screens as before. ???

With these vehicles, there will be a new definition to the words "update" and "change"

 

[MakinDoForNow]

With these vehicles, there will be a new definition to the words "update" and "change"

Update being a more recent change.

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