Lane centering inop when trailer connected, dealer couldn't fix.

[m5040]

Yes, and when you get into an accident and the insurance company finds out you enabled it with Forscan be ready for them to drop you like a hot potato.

And before you say "how will they know?" they'll simply pull the data from the modules and see it's not a standard configuration.

They will need a warrant to "pull data", we still have search and seizure rights in this country. Then if/when they have it, they will have to prove it contributed to the crash, not just because it was on. You might want to be more worried about what speed it will indicate or at what point you hit the brake etc.
The only time they have fee access to your vehicle's computer is if they total the car, you get paid, then they own the data, cause they own it.
Don't get yourself in such a panic, all these features shut off when you tap the brake and if you have ever used the lane centering, it appears you haven't, you are still in control of the car and need to make continuous steering movements or it will again shut off after warning you to keep your hands on the wheel. When you are making these steering adjustments, you are in fact overpowering the lane centering feature, even if you are a frail person. And if you can't gain control, tap the brake, very very simple.
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[Glen Baker LLC]

In a panic situation, few folks know to just tap the brakes.

 

[mavhopefull]

25 Hybrid with tow package, when towing any size trailer, the lane centering feature doesn't work. I brought it to the dealer, they looked at it for a couple of hours and said everything looked ok and to bring back with a trailer. Until I do, I have to tow the trailer with the light cord tucked in so it looks like it is connected but then dont have any lights (is is flatbed so truck lights visible). I take it on 12 hour drives and really want that feature to work (without disconnecting the light cord). I think when you pay for the safety features they should work, in concert with each other. I don't want to tow a camper cross country and not have the feature I purposely ordered the vehicle with not working. I bet it is "engineered" that way by some desk jockey. Any ideas? I am thinking I have to rewire a new trailer plug and tap off the tail and brake light wires (switched to LED, so the signal/brake circuit has lower amp draw). I will have to experiment with the brake circuit to see if the truck will realize and cancel the lane centering or not, if so then a aftermarket brake controller...what a mess! It will cancel the Lane centering even if trailer is small with not brakes (even set to min sizes or if the no trailer connected button is used).

My 22 Mav works great with lane centering while towing any type of trailer. Not sure why they can't figure it out.

 

[m5040]

ADAS controls lane change, radar cruse control if you change the ride height that changes . ADAS can be calibrated with the extra load you put on the back but when you not towing it won,t work. Im curious how much weight your towing and do you put in trailer mode or can you put it in any other driving modes. What kind of gas milage are you getting towing. ??? I also own the 2025 hybrid and I will be towing about 1350 lbs.

The truck has an inclinometer so it can adjust for load/suspension height changes and I have seen no ill effects.
I get about 27 mpg with empty trailer, loaded varies with amount you have loaded and "sail" area or wind resistance.
When empty I use the "economy mode", and use "trailer" when moderate to heavy load.
Does you 25 have the tow package option? I think you will forget you are even towing if your trailer GVW is 1350, that's how well it will act.
I do not notice any change in performance from my 23 W/O 4k tow package to my 25 with 4k tow. Just comforting to know the trans and coolers are beefed up.
With 25, I towed a Jeep CJ2A for 300 miles from VT to CT with no strain.

 

[m5040]

You're the one with the issue. Get a dongle and mess around....let US know when YOU figure it out!!

WHY?

 

[Suzukiridr14]

The full manual is downloaded in your infotainment system.

Again, Ford is giving you less, and charging you more. The 2025s deleted many things that the 22s-24s had like a owners manual you could sit down and read at your convienance. I hate some technology!

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

If you were to take a poll and people were honest in their answers. I'm sure less than 1% of owners have ever open up their owner's manual. Much less sit down to read it.
. As a business owner why go through the expense of providing something that less than 1% of your consumers look at or even use? When you can offer the same information as required by law, in a different format, that still comes with the vehicle.
I've downloaded my 2023 Maverick owners manual to my phone.
I still have a hard copy of my owners manual. It is still nicely wrapped in plastic in the glove compartment of my car.
If I don't have my phone it's there in the glove compartment. Similar to the 2025 being downloaded into the infotainment system.

 

[m5040]

In a panic situation, few folks know to just tap the brakes.

Yes, and it shows on this forum that some members think the owners manual is the truth from God himself. Maybe they can understand this: How strong is a chain? The answer is, only as strong as the weakest link. Ford writes the owners manual for the weakest people in society, not the average and surprise, all of it may not be applicable to you. It is pathetic how frighten some people in this forum are that I use lane centering while towing. I leaned to drive on a car that had free, unsecured floor mats!! Oh the horror of it all. Do you even realize it is legal to drive a vehicle that does not have power steering? Come on over and I can get you in a 3 axle, 10 wheel truck with no power steering and then tell me your worried about Maverick drivers being able to overpower the lane centering. Some of you need to man up and not to be the weakest link.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Yes, and it shows on this forum that some members think the owners manual is the truth from God himself. Maybe they can understand this: How strong is a chain? The answer is, only as strong as the weakest link. Ford writes the owners manual for the weakest people in society, not the average and surprise, all of it may not be applicable to you. It is pathetic how frighten some people in this forum are that I use lane centering while towing. I leaned to drive on a car that had free, unsecured floor mats!! Oh the horror of it all. Do you even realize it is legal to drive a vehicle that does not have power steering? Come on over and I can get you in a 3 axle, 10 wheel truck with no power steering and then tell me your worried about Maverick drivers being able to overpower the lane centering. Some of you need to man up and not to be the weakest link.

Do folks with little experience tow trailers? Absolutely.
Could a 16 year old who knows nothing about manual brakes or steering own a Ford Maverick and tow a trailer? Absolutely
Are Ford corporate lawyers afraid of lawsuits? Absolutely

I will preface the following attachment with.
This is NOT a result from towing a trailer. That notwithstanding. This kind of lawsuit & settlement makes corporate attorneys shutter.

YES FOLKS THAT'S
Two and a half BILLION DOLLARS
Deleting Lane keeping, while towing a trailer.
I feel it's Ford's way of erroring on the side of caution, rather then risk a multi-billion dollar lawsuit.
Even if it pisses off a few owners.

 

[m5040]

Again, Ford is giving you less, and charging you more. The 2025s deleted many things that the 22s-24s had like a owners manual you could sit down and read at your convienance. I hate some technology!

Yes, salesman actually told me the navigation requires a subscription now and I will have to use a app on my phone or sign up to Ford's site (and you better read the small print if your worried about them accessing your stored data). The 23 would pull up weather reports and weather radar, not the 25. The 23 could block Sirius channels that you didn't like and a tuning knob that you could spin and go up 10 to 20 channels, now you have to talk to it. I hate to think what the future is going to bring after looking at 23/25 comparison.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Yes, salesman actually told me the navigation requires a subscription now and I will have to use a app on my phone or sign up to Ford's site (and you better read the small print if your worried about them accessing your stored data). The 23 would pull up weather reports and weather radar, not the 25. The 23 could block Sirius channels that you didn't like and a tuning knob that you could spin and go up 10 to 20 channels, now you have to talk to it. I hate to think what the future is going to bring after looking at 23/25 comparison.

Hummmmm! I am not prepared to talk to my next car/truck in Chinese not even in sign language.

 

[m5040]

Do folks with little experience tow trailers? Absolutely.
Could a 16 year old who knows nothing about manual brakes or steering own a Ford Maverick and tow a trailer? Absolutely
Are Ford corporate lawyers afraid of lawsuits? Absolutely

I will preface the following attachment with.
This is NOT a result from towing a trailer. That notwithstanding. This kind of lawsuit & settlement makes corporate attorneys shutter.

YES FOLKS THAT'S
Two and a half BILLION DOLLARS
Deleting Lane keeping, while towing a trailer.
I feel it's Ford's way of erroring on the side of caution, rather then risk a multi-billion dollar lawsuit.
Even if it pisses off a few owners.

Thank our court system. Mc D's having to pay someone millions for spilling hot coffee and now Starbucks looks to be doing the same. Hmmm, lukewarm coffee!

Sorry this link is through Fbook, but you might have guess that the deletion of lane centering while towing was caused by not smart drivers and can be done with complete safety if you know what you are doing:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1FpcVPsK6e/

 

[L30n1d45]

Mc D's having to pay someone millions for spilling hot coffee and now Starbucks looks to be doing the same

The McDonalds case was legit. Lady got 3rd degree burns from coffee that was over boiling temp. You can thank Mc D's for their smear campaign against her and her case for the fact that you still believe it was some frivolous lawsuit.

can be done with complete safety if you know what you are doing

Personally, I agree with you here on this point. If someone knows what they are doing, then lane-keep will likely not be an issue when towing. The part that I disagree with you on is:

Lane centering inop when trailer connected, dealer couldn't fix.

There is nothing for the dealer to 'fix' here if it is working as it was designed to work.


If you want to enable a vehicle feature that was disabled for safety, then by all means, go ahead. Just don't get upset when you inevitably get in a wreck because you decided to use a vehicle feature for something it was not designed to do.

if you know what you are doing

Your flippant disregard for the need to have trailer lights + brakes makes me think that you, in fact, do not know what you are doing, though.

 

[m5040]

The McDonalds case was legit. Lady got 3rd degree burns from coffee that was over boiling temp. You can thank Mc D's for their smear campaign against her and her case for the fact that you still believe it was some frivolous lawsuit.



Personally, I agree with you here on this point. If someone knows what they are doing, then lane-keep will likely not be an issue when towing. The part that I disagree with you on is:

Thanks for agreeing.

There is nothing for the dealer to 'fix' here if it is working as it was designed to work.



If you want to enable a vehicle feature that was disabled for safety, then by all means, go ahead. Just don't get upset when you inevitably get in a wreck because you decided to use a vehicle feature for something it was not designed to do.




Your flippant disregard for the need to have trailer lights + brakes makes me think that you, in fact, do not know what you are doing, though.

Just explain how you can get a liquid, without direct heat and pressure, to stay above it's boiling point. Can't be done and I am sorry if this triggers you, but you are the type that causes all this needless litigation. If you buy hot coffee, a knife, a ladder, a gun etc, take precautions to not hurt yourself in the process. The world cannot be sterilized for every idiot, it is natural selection in progress.

I don't work for a dealer. I just reported on my transaction and the recommendation to bring vehicle back with the trailer. You can't blame me for that

You keep going in circles, first you agree, now a wreck is inevitable. Really?? You must have feeble driving skills to believe that. Ford disabled it for people of your caliber. I have been driving for 50 years without a wreck. I can effortlessly overpower the lane centering and change lanes without signaling (relax, no other vehicles around). There is no logical explanation on how lane centering will cause a crash, none. The lane centering is slightly more then a recommendation by the vehicle to proceed on a certain path. Only a few inch-pounds of torque is needed to alter the vehicle's decision. Just like the coffee spills, ladder falls etc, people are looking for deep pockets to take legal action against and if they can blame the vehicle for anything they will. I don't agree to be penalized for others stupidity and charged for lane centering and 4k tow, but you cant use them together!!!!

Now here you go again exaggerating that I drove without brakes but at lease it makes you believe that you are thinking.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Just explain how you can get a liquid, without direct heat and pressure, to stay above it's boiling point. Can't be done and I am sorry if this triggers you, but you are the type that causes all this needless litigation. If you buy hot coffee, a knife, a ladder, a gun etc, take precautions to not hurt yourself in the process. The world cannot be sterilized for every idiot, it is natural selection in progress.

I don't work for a dealer. I just reported on my transaction and the recommendation to bring vehicle back with the trailer. You can't blame me for that

You keep going in circles, first you agree, now a wreck is inevitable. Really?? You must have feeble driving skills to believe that. Ford disabled it for people of your caliber. I have been driving for 50 years without a wreck. I can effortlessly overpower the lane centering and change lanes without signaling (relax, no other vehicles around). There is no logical explanation on how lane centering will cause a crash, none. The lane centering is slightly more then a recommendation by the vehicle to proceed on a certain path. Only a few inch-pounds of torque is needed to alter the vehicle's decision. Just like the coffee spills, ladder falls etc, people are looking for deep pockets to take legal action against and if they can blame the vehicle for anything they will. I don't agree to be penalized for others stupidity and charged for lane centering and 4k tow, but you cant use them together!!!!

Now here you go again exaggerating that I drove without brakes but at lease it makes you believe that you are thinking.

Ford disabled lane keeping and centering when towing a trailer on the Ford F-150 back in 2023. Those guys have a few more years of research under their belt.
Some of those guys have tried using ForSCAN on their "23" and newer Ford F-150s. I have not read through all the post. I don't think they've had much success. It's worth a look.
Good Luck

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