Vehicle Lockout

[Joe Strummer]

Man sounds like some weird stuff going on. I think this all came about (frigging nightmare to be honest) by using two stage authentication. Without it you can use any phone as long as you can download the Ford App.

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[zen_]

man, that is a hack job.

I suppose you'll be zip-tying a dumbkey under your truck asap. I have one attached to a neodymium magnet. Cost about $30 to get it cut at a hardware store; won't start the pickup, but opens the door.

I tried to get the factory keypad installed, but typical bumbling dealership disservice center ordered wrong part and made me sit there for 6+ hours until they told me. Won't be trying THAT again. I LOVE having a keypad on my Transit(not Connect) for runs and rides where I'm worried about dropping my keys on a trail miles from the car.

I can't decide for sure between just getting a hidden dumb key or looking into the keypad add-on.

It was actually just recently I started carrying the key to the vehicle on me while I'm mountain biking because anything that falls out of your jersey pocket on a ride is gone forever unless it's large, and brightly colored. I had estimated the chance of Ford Pass being down / unavailable was higher than my pouch falling out of my back pocket unnoticed, though.

On the plus side, it's "only" $440 + tax to get a rear passenger window replaced on these, and OEM glass is readily available. I was worried it was going to be close to a $1,000 based on one quote, and some crazy backlog to get OEM glass. Aftermarket was $325.

 

[gjallen3]

Mostly just a rant thread, and a possible warning for anyone who gets locked out of their vehicle.

[skip the next 2 paragraphs if you don't want to read about me being dumb and ranting]

I was out mountain biking alone today before snow hits and closes the trails down for the year probably. Loaded my bike in the bed when done, threw all my stuff in the back (including my pouch with the key in it, and my phone that I had unlocked the vehicle with). Shut the back door, and the doors all locked. I was the only one in the most remote parking lot of a state park, it's 25 degrees outside, my phone and keys are locked inside, so I had to ride my bike (with no gloves) about 2 miles to the ranger station. Call Progressive to use roadside since I couldn't use the Ford app on a good Samaritan's phone (multi factor went to my phone, locked inside), and 45 minutes later a tow truck arrives.

For 2 hours the AAA driver tried to get inside with a metal hook, a lot of it with me trying to guide him to the door unlock. I can see that the door trim and the paint around the door is being absolutely demolished. Finally he gives up and wants to tow the pickup to a locksmith, but it's in park with the parking brake on too. I see him putting it on skates and am like, no fudging way we are going to demolish a transmission today too yanking this up on a tow truck, so make a decision to just break the window in with a hammer and move along since it will be 2 more hours for someone to come pick me up, but the park closes in 1 hour, at which point I will have no shelter as winter bears down. Drive 2 hours home with no drivers side rear window (snowing most of the way). Now I have to get a window replaced, all this fixed, and file a claim with AAA for all the damages.

Lessons learned:

• The vehicle can randomly lock, my friend who owns a tow truck also said Fords are notorious for randomly locking them when he's hauling them.
• Call a locksmith if you're ever locked out, unlocking this car with a hook is not for amateurs obviously due to the lock button location, and the handle being hard to get at too

Good times...

I’m in the “You must have hit the manual lock” camp, and have been for a while. I still think that in the majority of cases that is what happens, but one day last week I was standing next to my truck in the driveway and I heard the all too familiar sound of the doors locking. My key fob was in the garage about 10 feet away. Now I’m not sure if I had already locked the doors myself, could have, but they were absolutely locked now. Maybe my imagination, maybe I just heard some of the random clicking and servo sounds, but it did make me go, huh. Maybe it is possible. In any event I have a spare key in a hide a key box with a spare battery hidden now.

 

[JonP_Maine]

Mine has also randomly locked which is super-annoying. I have a keypad though and made sure to memorize the key code. Sorry this happened.

 

[gjallen3]

I can't decide for sure between just getting a hidden dumb key or looking into the keypad add-on.

It was actually just recently I started carrying the key to the vehicle on me while I'm mountain biking because anything that falls out of your jersey pocket on a ride is gone forever unless it's large, and brightly colored. I had estimated the chance of Ford Pass being down / unavailable was higher than my pouch falling out of my back pocket unnoticed, though.

On the plus side, it's "only" $440 + tax to get a rear passenger window replaced on these, and OEM glass is readily available. I was worried it was going to be close to a $1,000 based on one quote, and some crazy backlog to get OEM glass. Aftermarket was $325.

Get yourself one of these and a good hide a key box box with magnets. Mine works perfectly.
https://a.co/d/26ZGAph

 

[icegradner]

Yes I did read the post but I must have skipped it because he said he was ranting and I did not see that the phone was locked in his truck excuse the F out of me!

Dude, chill it wasn't an insult.

 

[icegradner]

This has been argued many times and I personally have no idea what the truth really is with all of these auto door locking issues. However, in this case it appears you are 100% incorrect because he stated he shut the rear door and all of the doors locked. He didn't even open the front door. See below. If this is true then it appears his truck did in fact auto lock the doors. Manually locking one rear door would and should not lock all doors. It has never done that in any car I've owned in close to 40 years since I've been driving.

There is no auto door locking issue. Ford even looked into it, they couldn't find it, since the Maverick does not have auto locking doors. The only time it can do auto locking is when it reaches a set speed, which means it has to be on and in gear!

Of course there is another possibility I hadn't considered before. He was throwing stuff around in the truck while the keys were in it, maybe something hit the lock button on the fob!

 

[zen_]

Get yourself one of these and a good hide a key box box with magnets. Mine works perfectly.
https://a.co/d/26ZGAph

Do these keys work as a dumb key (physical door unlock) only if you don't get them programmed?

 

[Alfetta159]

No it doesn’t randomly lock itself,

Or perhaps it does. I have another car with electric locks and a key fob, and it will relock before I can open a door after I unlock it or lock the doors at random times. I have gotten to the point that if there is a situation where I want to leave the keys in the car, I roll down a window. Is it a malfunction? Yes, and it's possible there is an issue with this Mav where 'it randomly locks itself'.

 

[Alfetta159]

When I was a AAA driver and trying out as a 'repo man', we would have never opened it that way. We used Slim Jims, not the convenience store delicacy, but the tool.

But that was 35 years ago, and perhaps they make cars differently now.

 

[Grand Nat.]

Just have Your Ford dealer install the key pad. There's nothing to think about. I have the key pad on my Ranger and Maverick because I sometimes do dumb things too.

 

[Surly Old Bill]

I can't decide for sure between just getting a hidden dumb key or looking into the keypad add-on.

It was actually just recently I started carrying the key to the vehicle on me while I'm mountain biking because anything that falls out of your jersey pocket on a ride is gone forever unless it's large, and brightly colored. I had estimated the chance of Ford Pass being down / unavailable was higher than my pouch falling out of my back pocket unnoticed, though.

On the plus side, it's "only" $440 + tax to get a rear passenger window replaced on these, and OEM glass is readily available. I was worried it was going to be close to a $1,000 based on one quote, and some crazy backlog to get OEM glass. Aftermarket was $325.

about 30+ years ago I locked the keys in my Tacoma. I was trying to open the handle with a stick through the closed wing window (yes, it had those!) and broke the window. "Oh Well!" I said and went to Denver to get e new one. It was under $25! So the next time I did that, I just broke the wing window with a hammer...

I'd suggest the cheap option of a dumb key first, and then maybe something more elegant later. I'm still playing with the idea of a hidden button to either unlock the door or roll down a window. That would be a $10 + one hour solution.

 

[zen_]

about 30+ years ago I locked the keys in my Tacoma. I was trying to open the handle with a stick through the closed wing window (yes, it had those!) and broke the window. "Oh Well!" I said and went to Denver to get e new one. It was under $25! So the next time I did that, I just broke the wing window with a hammer...

I'd suggest the cheap option of a dumb key first, and then maybe something more elegant later. I'm still playing with the idea of a hidden button to either unlock the door or roll down a window. That would be a $10 + one hour solution.

I tried replacing the driver door glass, and doing my own window tint on an 89' Accord coupe when I was 17 with parts from O'Reilly. I want to say all of that was well under $100 in 2001. The window tint looked terrible (first and last DIY), but the glass went OK.

A couple years later I was relieved of my car stereo and found it wasn't safety glass, and neither is rear glass in the Maverick. It took 2 good whacks from a sledgehammer to break though.

 

[Deleted member 37952]

Man…that’s such a bummer, sorry you had to deal with that. I hope the damage is something that can be sorted out quickly and with as little pain as possible.

As someone who finds themself doing similar activities in remote locations and has nearly locked their keys in the car before (without any cell service at all!), I am very glad my Maverick has the key pad optioned for those rare but extremely unfortunate occasions. I see it’s already been suggested here but from a fellow outdoorsman, I can absolutely vouch for its helpfulness.

 

[gjallen3]

Do these keys work as a dumb key (physical door unlock) only if you don't get them programmed?

Yes. But you can program it yourself. Very, very easy

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