The Maverick is not yours until it is.

[RonFLA]

Ummm, I don’t know about you but I would prefer to pay/trade when it’s sitting in front of me. Too much can go wrong…

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[Mav_RICK]

Ummm, I don’t know about you but I would prefer to pay/trade when it’s sitting in front of me. Too much can go wrong…

Well I don't disagree with that but many high demand vehicles in this day and age will not likely ever be setting in front of you, especially at MSRP. I never ordered a vehicle in my life before without actually being able to test drive it but I did order the Maverick. Actually I've never ordered a vehicle in my life before the Maverick, I bought it straight of the lot.

 

[Old Man]

Abso-f'ing-lutely not!

I would NEVER give up possession of my existing vehicle and pay for a new vehicle before it even ships, that is insanity.

I'm glad it worked out for you.

For would benefit from a model like Tesla - where you pick your vehicle, options, and pay a non-refundable deposit directly to them. You get an estimated arrival of your vehicle. When your vehicle is built, they notify you of it's arrival, you have 72 hours to arrange for payment and pick up or you lose it.

No BS on price, no BS on anything else. It's yours, your pay for it, you pick it up and leave.

State laws do not allow a Tesla approach for other car manufacturers. You are required to deal with a manufacturer approved franchise company that is the intermediary to the car manufacturer. The manufacturer builds a vehicle at the request of the franchise not the customer. You and the car manufacturer do not have a relationship until delivery then warranty service is your right but only through one of their franchise operations. Comparing to Tesla is a non-comparison unless you can get state franchise laws revoked.

 

[Mav_RICK]

Abso-f'ing-lutely not!

I would NEVER give up possession of my existing vehicle and pay for a new vehicle before it even ships, that is insanity.

So when the Maverick arrives at the dealership where I ordered that is 1500 miles from me. I will have to pay for it before they ship it to me on a truck. By your definition that's insane and LOL I'm not sure I disagree with that but it is really no different than the Toyota coming to me from Huntsville Alabama. Plenty of Maverick people are having their already payed for Maverick shipped to them over hundreds if not thousands of miles.

 

[earlyhike]

So when the Maverick arrives at the dealership where I ordered that is 1500 miles from me. I will have to pay for it before they ship it to me on a truck. By your definition that's insane and LOL I'm not sure I disagree with that but it is really no different than the Toyota coming to me from Huntsville Alabama. Plenty of Maverick people are having their already payed for Maverick shipped to them over hundreds if not thousands of miles.

I think there is a difference between paying a dealership for a car that even the dealership doesn't have ownership of yet (which I imagine is what Rick considers crazy) vs. paying a dealership for a car that it actually owns and physically has in stock and then proceeding to pay to ship it the last mile to your house.

In either case you are buying something you haven't seen yet. But in the former scenario you are buying something from a dealer that doesn't actually own the vehicle yet. So you are buying from a seller who can't 100% promise they will ever have the vehicle in their possession that you now own.

Both have delivery risks but the former concept seems like putting the cart before the horse. IMO

 

[710-oil-614]

State laws do not allow a Tesla approach for other car manufacturers. You are required to deal with a manufacturer approved franchise company that is the intermediary to the car manufacturer. The manufacturer builds a vehicle at the request of the franchise not the customer. You and the car manufacturer do not have a relationship until delivery then warranty service is your right but only through one of their franchise operations. Comparing to Tesla is a non-comparison unless you can get state franchise laws revoked.

Great explanation! I am well aware of the franchise laws that stop traditional manufacturers from operating like Tesla (for now).

I was simply offering an alternative that would actually be beneficial - not making customers pay in full for their vehicle before it ever arrives.

 

[NextTruck]

I can only imagine the disappointment of whoever was waiting for this truck... he thought he had it... and them... Arizona car train derailment...

An F150, and also saw Transit van in the wreck. All Fords so hopefully there are not Mavericks on that train as well.

 

[boe757]

I can only imagine the disappointment of whoever was waiting for this truck... he thought he had it... and them... Arizona car train derailment...

I have heard of being "upside down" but I always thought it was financial

 

[Profiteer]

After being here awhile one thing I notice is people feel that when they place a Maverick order they are ordering their Maverick. In reality we are picking the features we want in a Maverick and putting in a request for an allocation that fits that request at a dealership that hopefully will get that allocation. It’s not our Maverick until we drive it off the lot and then often times it’s not exactly the one we originally ordered because changes were made so that Ford might pick it to be built. There is nothing in that system that should tell you that’s “ my truck”.

So while waiting for a Maverick that is still not my Maverick I have my wife’s Corolla Cross hybrid in shipment. How is it that this is her Corolla Cross hybrid but the Maverick is not my Maverick you may ask?

Originally we got in a line at three dealerships for an allocation. No special order here. When we came up in line at one dealership the build did not meet what we wanted. We passed on that allocation. We waited for an allocation of a build that met what we wanted. When one did come up that met what we wanted we took it and then payed a deposit on that allocation. Then and only when it was finally built could we call it our car because at that point we contracted, made our trade and paid for our car and that’s before it even ships.

I personally think Ford would do themselves a huge favor by going with a similar system.

Wut?

 

[Mav_RICK]

I think there is a difference between paying a dealership for a car that even the dealership doesn't have ownership of yet (which I imagine is what Rick considers crazy) vs. paying a dealership for a car that it actually owns and physically has in stock and then proceeding to pay to ship it the last mile to your house.

In either case you are buying something you haven't seen yet. But in the former scenario you are buying something from a dealer that doesn't actually own the vehicle yet. So you are buying from a seller who can't 100% promise they will ever have the vehicle in their possession that you now own.

Both have delivery risks but the former concept seems like putting the cart before the horse. IMO

For me the best thing about the Toyota model is you don't have a dealership taking an order for a vehicle they may never be able to get you, they may never even get the allocation.. In the Toyota way of doing things the dealer has the allocation and you accept the build or you don't. You will get that vehicle but yes it comes the way Toyota wanted it to come. It might be the cart before the horse but I see it as less drama and probably a lot fewer unhappy customers in the end.

 

[colinl]

An F150, and also saw Transit van in the wreck. All Fords so hopefully there are not Mavericks on that train as well.

very unlikely a Maverick would be on that train. Transit and F150 might have been from KC going west. that's the only factory I can think of that makes both models.

 

[Rentman1225]

Ford would do their customer's a huge favor by building what they take orders for. My 2022 order was canceled by Ford, along with many other 2022 Maverick orders. Somehow my 2023 order was never placed correctly and not received by Ford. Fortunately,I also placed a 2nd 2023 order with a different dealership. That order was built and delivered.

 

[jsus]

very unlikely a Maverick would be on that train. Transit and F150 might have been from KC going west. that's the only factory I can think of that makes both models.

Probably about as likely that some Mavericks ended up on the same train as vehicles from any other manufacturer. Coming from Claycomo Assembly in KCMO with the Transits, the train likely passed through Wichita and Amarillo en route to the route that roughly parallels I-40 through ABQ and Flagstaff.

Mavericks headed to CA/OR/WA would've come up from Hermosillo through Nogales, AZ, and onto Tucson via UP. From there, others have said that the next stop was in Phoenix, even for Mavericks bound for Tucson, I believe. So from there, it would've probably gone west either via ARZC before transferring to BNSF near Cadiz, or it would've followed I-17 north through the mountains to Flagstaff. From Flagstaff, it could've joined the Autoracks from KCMO, but that seems unlikely. Technically it could also not transfer to BNSF in Phoenix but instead stay on UP and backtrack south to take the route past Gila and Yuma and onto San Bernardino where it'd transfer to BNSF.

All of this said, the only vehicles visible from the news photos I've seen are the one inverted/crushed F-150 and a whole lot of Transits in various states of demolition.

https://www.bnsf.com/bnsf-resources...s-and-shipping-locations/bnsf-network-map.pdf

 

[JennyJoannSuebeeMcNash]

I can only imagine the disappointment of whoever was waiting for this truck... he thought he had it... and them... Arizona car train derailment...

 

[earlyhike]

For me the best thing about the Toyota model is you don't have a dealership taking an order for a vehicle they may never be able to get you, they may never even get the allocation.. In the Toyota way of doing things the dealer has the allocation and you accept the build or you don't. You will get that vehicle but yes it comes the way Toyota wanted it to come. It might be the cart before the horse but I see it as less drama and probably a lot fewer unhappy customers in the end.

You might be right. Though I think both are broken buying experiences. Hopefully both processes will give way to a third option worthy of an incredibly expensive customer buying experience.

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