Because it fairs better with the constant drain. The truck won't start with a dead 12v battery because it runs all necessary systems and accessories. You should be asking Ford that question not a buyer. Come on we aren't stupid.
Ford just announced the recall of 125,000 F-150s and other similar 2017-2018 vehicles for brake problems. I guess if it took 7 to 8 years to finally fix those problems we might see a solution to this widespread deep sleep problem by 2030 or 2031, if we are lucky. Beginning to believe that the tag line from Ford is no longer "quality is job one" but is instead "quality is job none".
Tarrifs won't save bad quality. Survival of the fittest usual prevails and they are at best, middle of the road mediocre.
Thanks for the info / updated info. I bet you this is a hardware fix.My 2024 Lariat Hybrid went into deep sleep 3 out of the last 4 days. Sent an email to the Service Manager at my dealer and the reply is yet another kicking of the can down the road. There is yet another SSM. This is part of what was sent
The previously referenced SSM was superseded by one published today.
Have you tried driving it for at least an hour or two several days it a row? Solved my issue at least for now. I found after several high speed 65-70 mph for 40 minutes several days in a row my issues haven’t popped up. Outside of the fact, now that it experienced a deep sleep shut down it isn’t giving me the same gas mileage.
How about a 300 mile trip one day and a return 300 mile trip two days later and an hour after returning getting deep sleep notification? Been there, done that. It is not going to be fixed until Ford's engineers redesign the basic charging circuit. No software fix is going to solve this. If it were that simple that would have already been accomplished.
You'll have problems again.
Thank you for the chart and real world findings. Ford has got to come up with a solution to recharge the battery quicker, even if it means redesigning the engine compartment to fit a belt driven alternator like should have been in there. We bought our Maverick hybrid specifically for short distance local trips of 10 miles or less to take advantage of the 42 to 50+ MPG in city driving. Was never told you would have a dead battery continually because the Maverick won't recharge the battery. We have two other vehicles and have never had a situation where the battery was destroyed by short trips. Ford needs to own up to this major flub up and fix it.You'll have problems again.
You just made it over a hump to stop the effects, for now.
But the change you had shouldn't effect MPG, perhaps on paper a minor amount - but many more real life variables.
Here's what happened during your long drive.
This is what should happen in hours, but the truck system according to logs is actually minutes, and sadly even a tad shorter than this chart. So you got an extended float charge around 1A or less for a long time.
A recent log of my truck's state of BMS tracking shows this.
Assuming the sensor is even accurate. These are Amp Hrs.
20 - Cumulative Charge Engine On
17 - Cumulative Discharge Ignition Off
4 - Cumulative Discharge in Sleep Mode (I've never received Fordpass notice of this, so must be a different sleep mode)
So even by their own math, accurate or not - this is always on the side of undercharged, never matches (20 vs 21). If this has any bearing on the charging strategy.
Now, somehow despite that I've risen from winter time abouts 50% SOC, to currently around 63%.
The system controls exactly how many amps are going to just the battery for recharging, from the power that is coming from the DCDC conv, either from motors or the battery.
Thank you for the education. Let’s just pray they solve the problem. I love this truck.You'll have problems again.
You just made it over a hump to stop the effects, for now.
But the change you had shouldn't effect MPG, perhaps on paper a minor amount - but many more real life variables.
Here's what happened during your long drive.
This is what should happen in hours, but the truck system according to logs is actually minutes, and sadly even a tad shorter than this chart. So you got an extended float charge around 1A or less for a long time.
A recent log of my truck's state of BMS tracking shows this.
Assuming the sensor is even accurate. These are Amp Hrs.
20 - Cumulative Charge Engine On
17 - Cumulative Discharge Ignition Off
4 - Cumulative Discharge in Sleep Mode (I've never received Fordpass notice of this, so must be a different sleep mode)
So even by their own math, accurate or not - this is always on the side of undercharged, never matches (20 vs 21). If this has any bearing on the charging strategy.
Now, somehow despite that I've risen from winter time abouts 50% SOC, to currently around 63%.
2024, 2021, 2016, 2013, 2010, 2004, 1984, 1973, 1967. Those are the years of my many Fords.
The problem isn't the battery. It's a poorly designed charging circuit. As it is currently designed it can't even properly recharge a lower capacity FLA battery, let alone a higher capacity AGM battery.
Totally agree that it is NOT only a software update or it would have been done by now. I get the suspicion Ford is deathly afraid of the massive damage a huge recall of ALL hybrid Mavericks will do to their sales and bottom line. This will be the crap hitting the fan when it is announced. But they don't have much choice. This problem can't just be ignored, despite their efforts to down play it by changing the verbiage in the app notification to call it a "battery protection feature" rather than a deep sleep problem notification. Hey, Ford: This is NOT a feature!
