Remote Features Disabled To Preserve Battery Life.

[Ozarkbeard]

Several have mentioned it's required to get or have access to your points. Not sure, but just saw that posted in another thread. Maybe creating an online Ford account is really all that's needed.

Once Ford points showed up in my account, I deleted the app, removed it from the truck, and pulled fuse# 11 to kill the telematics unit. I have since used all the points, no problem.

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[Brumbach]

Once Ford points showed up in my account, I deleted the app, removed it from the truck, and pulled fuse# 11 to kill the telematics unit. I have since used all the points, no problem.

So by pulling fuse #11 and deleting the ap does the issue go away or does it just not tell you when its in that mode?

 

[Ozarkbeard]

So by pulling fuse #11 and deleting the ap does the issue go away or does it just not tell you when its in that mode?

My '23 hybrid has never had a battery issue to my knowledge. Original flooded lead acid battery that came in it. It has always been drivable and the dome lights have always worked.

I pulled fuse number 11
Use a battery tender periodically
Double lock the truck when I leave it overnight

Of course we shouldn't have to do all this crap, but just saying what I have done to hopefully prevent having a dead battery. I don't want to have to deal with going to a dealership over an hour away, even though it's covered under warranty.

 

[HeyBales]

So by pulling fuse #11 and deleting the ap does the issue go away or does it just not tell you when its in that mode?

Deep sleep disables the modem, hence the notice received you won't have remote access.

So the systems method to reduce battery draw so enough power to start the truck.

Pulling the fuse also kills the modem, so reduces that battery draw all the time.
Also couldn't receive the notice as a hint, but the action is done already.

 

[Mark1]

I get it we don't have time or don't want to deal with an issue.
My state has a lemon law for new vehicles. If you take in to be fixed multiple times WHILE UNDER WARRANTY and the issue cannot be corrected. The dealer must buy it back or trade for the same newest model.
Without going in to my details, I am choosing to build a case against Ford rather than building a protective ora around the battery by whatever means. Some of which may void your warranty. I've been to the dealer once battery is getting worse. Had to jump it recently. Went to the dealer again they check vehicle systems and charged the Battery again. It is at 63%. They won't replace until at 40%.
Battery will be dead soon because I'm allowing the process to happen. I'm also documenting all battery messages. Truck is 8 months old.
Dealer said next time I need a jump to call Ford road service. Don't jump it. Have it towed to the dealer. At that point they will hook some sort of tester between the battery and vehicle for 24 to 48 hours to try and test for power draws from vehicle modules. If they finding nothing they will replace the battery and send me on my way again. By the way, all it takes is intermittent constant milli volt draws over time to do this. If my battery does this again, I was told by the Service Manager to use the Lemon Law. I may or may not have to wait for the recall in this quarter.
Documentation is everything!

 

[Mark1]

I get it we don't have time or don't want to deal with an issue.
My state has a lemon law for new vehicles. If you take in to be fixed multiple times WHILE UNDER WARRANTY and the issue cannot be corrected. The dealer must buy it back or trade for the same newest model.
Without going in to my details, I am choosing to build a case against Ford rather than building a protective ora around the battery by whatever means. Some of which may void your warranty. I've been to the dealer once battery is getting worse. Had to jump it recently. Went to the dealer again they check vehicle systems and charged the Battery again. It is at 63%. They won't replace until at 40%.
Battery will be dead soon because I'm allowing the process to happen. I'm also documenting all battery messages. Truck is 8 months old.
Dealer said next time I need a jump to call Ford road service. Don't jump it. Have it towed to the dealer. At that point they will hook some sort of tester between the battery and vehicle for 24 to 48 hours to try and test for power draws from vehicle modules. If they finding nothing they will replace the battery and send me on my way again. By the way, all it takes is intermittent constant milli volt draws over time to do this. If my battery does this again, I was told by the Service Manager to use the Lemon Law. I may or may not have to wait for the recall in this quarter.
Documentation is everything!

I forgot to mention something. By bringing vehicles in and getting dealerships to test and report issues to engineering, is how a proper diagnosis and repair gets done. Info to create a recall or class action suit to force a fix.

 

[Mareys]

I get it we don't have time or don't want to deal with an issue.
My state has a lemon law for new vehicles. If you take in to be fixed multiple times WHILE UNDER WARRANTY and the issue cannot be corrected. The dealer must buy it back or trade for the same newest model.
Without going in to my details, I am choosing to build a case against Ford rather than building a protective ora around the battery by whatever means. Some of which may void your warranty. I've been to the dealer once battery is getting worse. Had to jump it recently. Went to the dealer again they check vehicle systems and charged the Battery again. It is at 63%. They won't replace until at 40%.
Battery will be dead soon because I'm allowing the process to happen. I'm also documenting all battery messages. Truck is 8 months old.
Dealer said next time I need a jump to call Ford road service. Don't jump it. Have it towed to the dealer. At that point they will hook some sort of tester between the battery and vehicle for 24 to 48 hours to try and test for power draws from vehicle modules. If they finding nothing they will replace the battery and send me on my way again. By the way, all it takes is intermittent constant milli volt draws over time to do this. If my battery does this again, I was told by the Service Manager to use the Lemon Law. I may or may not have to wait for the recall in this quarter.
Documentation is everything!

Remember if it needs to be towed it has to be dragged up on to the truck as you cant put it into neutral. The truck is literally bricked. My dealer sends 2 guys out they jump my truck then one drives it to the dealer. I wont let them drag it up on the truck. Then they charge the battery to determine if there is a dead cell and either replace the battery or the guys bring it back after several hours. Ideal No to have them drive it but better than dragging it up on the flat bed

 

[Brumbach]

Remember if it needs to be towed it has to be dragged up on to the truck as you cant put it into neutral. The truck is literally bricked. My dealer sends 2 guys out they jump my truck then one drives it to the dealer. I wont let them drag it up on the truck. Then they charge the battery to determine if there is a dead cell and either replace the battery or the guys bring it back after several hours. Ideal No to have them drive it but better than dragging it up on the flat bed

How do they explain whats wrong? How often does this go down? Did you ever call Dearborn? Did you ever try to lemon law it?

 

[Mareys]

How do they explain whats wrong? How often does this go down? Did you ever call Dearborn? Did you ever try to lemon law it?

i have had 3 new batterys in 4 months and one jump and total charge at the dealer. They say " Bad Batch" of batteries, i dont drive it enough. (its never not driven more than 1 day and always more than 10miles) Last time about 10days ago they finally admitted there is a fix Coming.....

 

[HeyBales]

It should darn well be a recall item. It is a safety related issue if your vehicle battery is being depleted when it is not running and the recharging circuit is not doing just that: properly recharging the battery.

Not actually considered safety issue - at worst truck doesn't start.
Ultimate safety.

 

[23grayXLT84]

It should darn well be a recall item. It is a safety related issue if your vehicle battery is being depleted when it is not running and the recharging circuit is not doing just that: properly recharging the battery.

Been wondering why this isn't

Not actually considered safety issue - at worst truck doesn't start.
Ultimate safety.

I dont know specifics of federal regulations but if hazard lights dont work due to not a randomly depleted battery - meaning that this isnt a case of vehicle on side of the road flashing hazards for 2 days - instead this is case of widespread issue of poor battery management / phantom draws etc...could this actually turn into a recall ?

Just throwing that out there. If your vehicle is in deep sleep do hazard lights work ?

 

[HeyBales]

Been wondering why this isn't


I dont know specifics of federal regulations but if hazard lights dont work due to not a randomly depleted battery - meaning that this isnt a case of vehicle on side of the road flashing hazards for 2 days - instead this is case of widespread issue of poor battery management / phantom draws etc...could this actually turn into a recall ?

Just throwing that out there. If your vehicle is in deep sleep do hazard lights work ?

Yes.

Deep sleep turns off the TCU. That's it.

Battery saving would have started prior, and manual lists what some of those are, as comments point out.
Hazards aren't one of them.

Which while desired, can't be required because people do have bad batteries or charging systems and that may just not be possible. Besides, while a safety thing, again, not driving.
So not the level of safety that is considered a safety item.

 

[Dluep1]

I tried a solar trickle on my 23 XLT and still got the deep sleep messages. I recently bought a AGM battery, we will see how that goes, I rarely drive it. But CMON FORD.

 

[Bill S]

I periodically get this same message with my '21 Ranger XLT (40K Miles). I've had the battery checked a few times when getting my tires rotated and it's always come up fine. My Auto Stop/Start function also only seems to work sporadically for no apparent reason. I wonder if these things may be related to the same issue in both models?

 

[homerdog]

I've left my 22 sitting in an airport a couple of times for up to two weeks with no issues and the only real problems I've had was the power inverter and getting it repaired correctly. Maybe I'm just lucky or maybe Ford just did a decent job of putting mine together. Otherwise it does get driven daily and just passed 35k miles. The recalls have all been done but the local dealer has picked it up and brought it back when done. I'm still happy with it and the way Ford has treated me.

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